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You're kidding right? in some major aspects iOS wise, and hardware wise iPhone 4 is completely behind.

While this is true, as a complete package, nothing is still half as good as the iPhone4.

And I am not even talking about the finish and polish of iOS and the iPhone4 HW (which is incomparable).

Most of the "iPhone is behind" comparisons tend to be "and the Droid XYZ is better in Feature A, and the Nexus S is better in feature B, and the Galaxy is better in Feature Z". There is, unfortunately, no single competing phone that is better just by itself.

The Nexus S is the closest, but it comes across as half baked. The owners complain about a lack of a UI like the Sense, or Blur, and features like NFC are half baked, in that, no one supports it (you can't really walk into a Walmart and pay with your Nexus S).

And I also second a lot of folks here. The idea that Apple would warn international carriers that NFC is not coming makes NO sense at all. That report would have been far more reliable if they had said that Apple warned their Japanese carriers that NFC wasn't coming, because Japan is the only place its used (and is almost a necessity, although the iPhone proved Japanese would sacrifice that for a significantly better phone otherwise). Carriers are not going to be involved in NFC at all. The only external folks who might (will?) be are card service providers like Visa and Mastercard.
 
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NFC or LTE. The industry is really speeding up. Just iOS 5, A5, and 64gb in June would not be staying far enuf ahead of the pack.

We will see NFc or 4g or hopefully both!

Competition already has LTE and NFC (and HDMI and memory cards) so it's not about "staying ahead", it's about playing catch up.
 
The Devil is in the Details.

The next iPhone will not have NFC.
The next iPhone will be the 4G (LTE World Phone) - not the 5.

The iPhone 5 will carry NFC.
 
NFC chip include in iphone 5 will be hot-selling point for this year ,wow,Steve job so smart : )
 
Of course, I've been the victim of identity theft twice in the last year...

Perhaps you're too gullible. Send your SSN to my offshore email account and I'll show you how to prevent this from happening in the future. ;)
 
No need to flash an iPhone

I rather have RFID implanted beneath my skin. Avoid lines and just push shopping cart to my car, automatically billed through my iTunes account without the checker interrupting my phone call. http://bit.ly/dFFe91
 
And since NFC requires their cooperation, oh wait... Carriers have absolutely no need to know about this. I say bull on all of it. No one knows outside apple.

One of the two locations you can store the secure element in NFC is the SIM card. So NFC requires a SIM card from the carrier supporting SWP. You would have to tell carriers that otherwise it wouldn't work!
 
The next iPhone will not have NFC.
The next iPhone will be the 4G (LTE World Phone) - not the 5.

The iPhone 5 will carry NFC.

Colour me skeptical.
An iPhone 4G with A5 SoC and iOS 5.
Then iPhone 5 with A6 SoC in it and iOS 6.

It would seem strange after massaging the number for the iPhone/A/OS 4, to completely mess it up the next year.
 
One of the two locations you can store the secure element in NFC is the SIM card. So NFC requires a SIM card from the carrier supporting SWP. You would have to tell carriers that otherwise it wouldn't work!

Well if Apple goes SIMless or one of virtualSIM chips in the next phone and that chip can handle multiple active SIM's then Apple could save one under their own control for NFC profiles.
 
I rather have RFID implanted beneath my skin. Avoid lines and just push shopping cart to my car, automatically billed through my iTunes account without the checker interrupting my phone call. http://bit.ly/dFFe91

Hong Kong has been using RFID for almost 14 years; I only time I use cash in Hong Kong is when I have to recharge my RFID card. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_card
In addition to transport, parking and groceries, we also use our card to pay restaurant bills and as an identification device to enter our apartments (it can also be remotely deactivated if it is lost). Japan's version of this technology is even more advanced. I am really surprised the US doesn't use the technology yet :eek:
 
NFC can possibly help secure your Mac but requiring the NFC software handshake to unlock it.
Tapping your iPhone or waving it at the specific location near your device to activate an RFID.
 
Colour me skeptical.
An iPhone 4G with A5 SoC and iOS 5.
Then iPhone 5 with A6 SoC in it and iOS 6.

It would seem strange after massaging the number for the iPhone/A/OS 4, to completely mess it up the next year.

The iPhone 4G will ship with iOS 4.4.

iOS 5 will be available on the iPhone 4G only at the launch of the iPhone 5 (June 2012).
 
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But Apple is already advertising it (sort of) in its new commercial.

If you're referring to the Delta and Starbucks apps, they use barcodes. Barcodes are not NFC.
 
I'm assuming this will mean someone who has NFC activated to just swipes their iPhone near the receiver and then inputs their PIN/password through their iPhone, that is the only way this makes sense.

I also hope this doesn't lead to jailbreak hacks where people just easily gather other people's NFC information (that's really the only thing I fear).

I would love if I was able to place all of my cards (and stupidly annoying points cards that every retailer has) on the phone and just able to carry my phone + cash (which i barely have on me anyways) instead of all the cards, which bulk up my wallet to no end.

I would always carry plastic backup in case I'm stuck in the boonies and they don't have NFC payment terminals, or I'm in an airplane buying something from the stewardess, or I lose my iPhone and MobileMe can't locate it (this happened to me recently). Don't give up on plastic just yet...
 
Hong Kong has been using RFID for almost 14 years; I only time I use cash in Hong Kong is when I have to recharge my RFID card. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopus_card
In addition to transport, parking and groceries, we also use our card to pay restaurant bills and as an identification device to enter our apartments (it can also be remotely deactivated if it is lost). Japan's version of this technology is even more advanced. I am really surprised the US doesn't use the technology yet :eek:

Hong Kong is 1/3rd the size of Rhode Island... I would think they'd have their infrastructure up to date.
 
There had be a more compelling reason to even considering upgrading to a new phone after just getting the Verizon one last month.

Honestly, I think Apple is pushing things a bit by even considering releasing a new phone in July.

There are going to be a whole lot of pissed off Verizon customers who they will not allow to "upgrade" after just signing on for a two year commitment.

I would not be running out to the store to get this phone because of this! processer

This feature personally I could care less about, faster, not really, I could wait a year, a significantly bigger screen maybe I would sell my I4 and go for it.
 
Want it!

I see a lot of people, all they bring to lunch is an iPhone and a naked credit card, no wallet, no purse, etc. Fair number of people that invest in cases to include a wallet or id feature too. If iPhone included payment ability, think it would be hugely popular!
 
Don't you guys know anything?

Apple simply planted this hint which will make every single cell phone manufacture include NFC in their next phones thus paving a road for Apple to come in and do "NFC right" and dominate the market with it without the risk of investing in an unsupported technology.
 
Either way, I don't care much about this. Guessing The majority of people do not either.
 
Hong Kong has been using RFID for almost 14 years;
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Japan's version of this technology is even more advanced. I am really surprised the US doesn't use the technology yet :eek:

And from the looks of this we won't be using RFIDs, at least not in the iPhone. Instead we'll use a competing technology that doesn't play nice with implementations, such as RFID, outside the US.
:rolleyes:
 
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