Iphone 5 Practical Possibilities

[Dino F]

Good call! Side-to-sideedge glass ummm just touch sensitive controls. No physical button so the whole bottom area has a touch sensitive area for gestures and commands. Similar to android devices. Just something I thought would be neat.

Oh and even though the home button is touch sensitive, it would still have a groove so the user can feel where they are touching. . Thx for the compliment. This is a cropped version I made located here

Also in reference to the Direct 10 blurb, i got those specs from looking up the rumored chip 'power rv'.

.....while I really love your iPhone 5 concept - I genuinly feel that the iPhone 5 will 100% have the exact same screen size even if they change the form factor of the actual phone.

The reason for this is this - every single iPhone/iPod Touch to date, have all had the exact same screen size because all the apps, to date, have been written to run on that screen size.

If Apple release the iPhone 5 with a bigger/smaller screen - all the millions of apps out there are going to have to be re-written/updated to run on the new screen size - and thats never gonna happen....!

 

[seajay96]

I thought the verizon iPhone 4 has the Qualcomm MDM6600 chip that can do cdma/gsm/hspa.. I figured they'd use this in the next iPhone, and design it to work on AT&T or Verizon.

It does have that chip. Possible, but doubtful, that Apple will enable both GSM and CDMA on the same phone. I think people underestimate the level of engineering that goes into optimizing the antennas on these phones and trying to get both CDMA and GSM to work on the same phone is, perhaps, too much to ask. Especially considering they will need to rework it again for LTE very soon.

More likely, Apple will use the same chip to unify the production lines as much as possible. Then, simply tweak the antenna and enable the CDMA or GSM feature based on carrier destination.

 

[maflynn]

I don't see apple embracing LTE with the iPhone 5.

AT&T is no where ready for LTE, and while VZW is well ahead of them. I don't think they're going roll out 4G until both VZW and AT&T have a more robust 4G network in place.

Apple would be pissing off its customers if they rolled out 4G for one carrier but not another.

 

[Sedrick]

Hi all,

We have been hearing a lot of rumors and expectations on many possible upgrades that could come on Iphone 5 (or what ever it may be called). What are the practical possibilities for those rumored features that i could make it to the next gen phone from apple ?

Dual Core Processor -------------------------- Cool
NFC ----------------------------------------- Don't care
4" Screen ------------------------------------ Want, but won't happen
Form Factor/Antenna Redesign ---------------- Want, but won't happen
HDMI Output --------------------------------- Want, but won't happen
iOS/GUI Update ------------------------------ Want, but won't happen

I think they might remove the home button and just make one long capacitive screen. Using gestures, you can mimic the same functions of a button. In turn this means less components in the phone so more room for other components and much easier for them to repair.

I may be alone on this, but gestures on a tiny 3.5" screen that involve more than a couple fingers and (consequently) requires two hands to pull off is a joke.

It is a modern technology with which you could use your iphone as an credit/debit card. Although i have serious questions about this technology

1) If your phones gets stolen, so does your card.
2) Security, If you have to use it it has to be protected by some sort. The most that i could think of is activating it using a password. But for every purachase if you have to open that app and enter the passsword i would rather choose swipe of a card. Or if they donot have pswd sytem, i donot know how they would secure the system.

I never thought about this before. Damn good things to be worried about.

I'm guessing we see a form factor change. A total assumption, but I feel they will try and move away from the antenna stigma.

Apple took 3 years to move away from the basic iPhone design. Another redesign won't happen in just one year. Maybe next.

I just hope they change it enough to justify my waiting an additional 5 months.

You and me both. I've been waiting for 10 months.

just sharing

I think your measurements are off. According to mine, you can't fit 4" even if you go edge to edge (I get 3.97" and that's butting right up to the edges and would probably bleed light like crazy). Now 16:9 is another story and very doable but doubtful because apps will no longer fit the full screen.

Moot point, though. Apple, if nothing else, has proved they they're stubborn and will keep the current form factor and screen size.

 

[devilstrider]

Two things:

1) Next iphone will probably be 4G compatible with HSPA+ not LTE (still 4G)
2) The iPhone is already a World Phone. Yes there are other countries that use CDMA, but the vast majority is using GSM. If you have a CDMA phone and leave the US, you will not get signal anywhere past our borders. Went to Bahamas and had nothing, my Treo couldn't even update its time. Go with an AT&T phone, you have large roaming rates but it is still useable.

That's why I jailbroke and unlocked mine.

 

[EvilSmiley]

I wonder what will happen to retina display if they plan to extend the screen size to 4"

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

No No No @ NFC!! I have bad spending habits and like the option of leaving my cards at home sometimes. This is one attempt closer to chip implants.

I'll put everything on it that iPhone 5 will have 4G HSPA+ but not LTE. Good enough for now.

HDMI? Yea right, why would Apple give up on propriety sales. I wish Apple would go the mini USB direction, but that's not going happen either.

Still waiting for FM radio.

 

[Sedrick]

I wonder what will happen to retina display if they plan to extend the screen size to 4"

It would still come in close enough for apple to still call it retina (something like 288ppi). You'll, technically, hold it further away, to they'll still call it 'retina'.

Won't happen though.

 

[EvilSmiley]

Found this image online
This concept mockup look really cool.

Put in your thoughts

 

[sentinelsx]

Never say never. Who knows what surprises might come

 

[Reach9]

.....while I really love your iPhone 5 concept - I genuinly feel that the iPhone 5 will 100% have the exact same screen size even if they change the form factor of the actual phone.

The reason for this is this - every single iPhone/iPod Touch to date, have all had the exact same screen size because all the apps, to date, have been written to run on that screen size.

If Apple release the iPhone 5 with a bigger/smaller screen - all the millions of apps out there are going to have to be re-written/updated to run on the new screen size - and thats never gonna happen....!

So you're saying Apple is stuck behind the competition all the time due to the developers of the apps? So it's always going to be 3.5" when all the competition has 4" to 4.3" screens? C'mon, be serious.
It's time Apple dumps the 2007 screen of 3.5" and gets up to date with a 4" screen.

 

[URFloorMatt]

It is a modern technology with which you could use your iphone as an credit/debit card. Although i have serious questions about this technology

1) If your phones gets stolen, so does your card.

But unlike your credit card, your phone has GPS (to faciliate recovery) and can be remotely wiped/locked without ever calling your credit card company. That's stronger security, not a security threat.

2) Security, If you have to use it it has to be protected by some sort. The most that i could think of is activating it using a password. But for every purachase if you have to open that app and enter the passsword i would rather choose swipe of a card. Or if they donot have pswd sytem, i donot know how they would secure the system.

I don't know how it's implemented currently in Europe/Japan, but I'm guessing it would work just like a credit/debit card. If you debit, then you enter your pin. If it's credit, then you just swipe and sign if it's over a certain value. No need to require extra security just to access the NFC technology; POS has its own sufficient security tools already.

But again, it depends how its implemented. Using a Visa, Amex, Mastercard is probably going to require more security than just linking up some kind of rewards account. With the Starbucks app, you're basically just storing gift card money, similarly to how it works on Amazon. (Granted, these don't require NFC at all, but introducing NFC will get everyone thinking about and implementing phone payment methods.)

3) Battery - Additional hardware = additional power consumption. Imagine you are in a shopping mall and your battery died and you wil stand there embarassed. [dont say who would be dumb enuf not to keep the phone charged up, believe me people do. You talk on the phone, listen to songs/youtube, browse , your mail/facebook updates coming in these things would eat you battery up like crazy. 65 - 70 % of your battery will be gone easily]

If it's some kind of RFID implementation, there would be no extra power consumption. Not sure how most NFC is implemented, but I'm guessing there is virtually no effect on the battery.

NFC is my most wanted feature (behind a major iOS upgrade). I really want to abandon my wallet, and the sooner this comes the sooner it'll happen.

 

[camfunction]

What about HDMI out via one of these?

 

[FortMOney]

I personally am DROOLING over the idea of a 4" iPhone 5 screen. I have used my friend's samsung focus and I love the extra real estate.

As far as the resolution goes: it would be proportional to all the other screens right? And if apple sticks with the retina display, sure it won't be 320 ppi or whatever, but I for one would gladly bump down to 288 or whatever the new res would be in exchange for a larger screen

Also - it would be nice if the design was kept the same (at least dimensions wise) so cases would be readily available

 

[zenio]

It is a modern technology with which you could use your iphone as an credit/debit card. Although i have serious questions about this technology

There's plenty of info for you to study on the web.

These are my views abt NFC. But i still believe apple will overcome these things in a smart way

Apple doesn't have anything to overcome.

NFC has been used in mobile phones for years in Japan & other countries. All types of purchases like train tickets. Vending machines, lots of different uses. It's very secure and reliable.

 

[lsvtecjohn3]

What about HDMI out via one of these?

Well Apple did make that HDMI adapter that will work on the iPhone 4 so it will work on the iPhone 5 as well.... Just saying

 

[Reach9]

Found this image online
This concept mockup look really cool.

Put in your thoughts

That is highly unlikely, but i like your first mock-up.

 

[EvilSmiley]

What possibillities of design changes do you think IOS 5 brings on Iphone 5/Iphone 4s ?

 

[androiphone]

why don't we just call the new iphone the 'iPhone 5th gen' instead of getting confused by some people calling it the 4S and others calling it 5

 

[Alaerian]

This thread did not need to be resurrected.

 

[Jagardn]

Anyway, Apple needs to launch the iPhone 5 ASAP. Other companies are presenting outstanding phones and the iPhone 4 will be no longer in the competition very soon. Android is growing very very fast. Come on Apple, are you sleeping?

Of course Android phones are getting released so quickly, there are a bunch of companies making them. Maybe Apple should release new phones every month just to keep up with everyone else.