iphone 5 to have a 4.5 inch retina display?

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Well, if the case designs are to be believed, and they have not been wrong yet, and LG are going to be making the panels for the iPhone 5. Which has been reported already. They don't make a 4.2 inch panel that is a retina display. They only make two, a 3.5 inch and a 4.5 inch. Which one do you think they are going to put in a iPhone 5 if two models are coming out? A 3.5 I don't think so.

I am not saying or speculating on the screen size. All the facts point to a 4.5 inch retina display.

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Well most android devices already have a 4.3 inch screen. 4.5 is not much larger and Samsung already has one out.

If you have edge to edge glass, no problem on the size of the device.

They could easily make a 4" retina panel. What resolution? Same as the current one.

Since you would hold it further from your face, the PPI minimum for "Retina" classification drops to 260-270. So it'd still be retina.

Hold it further away so the pixels look the same size and the screen will look the same size too. I'm struggling to see the point!

 

[kre62]

In know what the retina classification refers to. You have it backwards. Lol.

Your missing my point. I am not speculating on what can be, just trying to put together the facts. LG doesn't make a 4 screen at a resolution of 960x640.

They make a 800x480 4 display. Retina refers to the human eye not seeing pixels at 12 inches from your face, the human eye cannot see them at that range at that resolution. Hence the term retina.

The resolution would have to be denser than 960x640 to acquire the term 'retina'.

Lg does not make a screen at 4 at a greater resolution than 960x480 that we know of. You have it backwards.

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Kind of, yes personally if I was being honest. Depends on how much Apple helps us out to tell you the truth.

Others more talented than myself, not as much.

The arguement will be a larger screen will be held a greater distance then 12". Thus, the retina classification will still exist.

At the end of the day, Apple will make the rules on what counts as Retina. So far it's defined based on screen size, PPI, and distance from face.

Even the 12" claim for Retina on the 3.5" display was challeneged, so it's not like anything is locked in as far as what does and does not constitute "Retina".

Also, just because there isn't a panel at 960x640 at 4" currently listed as for sale by LG does not mean they could not easily make one. They arent' going to list an unreleased component, and its not like Apple is known for using COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) components. As if Apple is assembling the iphone5 using currently existing tech only. Like they are some kind of system builder buying parts at Frys for a computer build. Come on dude.

 

[Hands Sandon]

Thanks op for a well thought through thread.

A 4.5" LG retina display would be amazing. I think Apple would be crazy not to utilize it. I don't think, (of course I'm just guessing though) that Apple would go backwards in terms of dpi, even if they could still class it as a retina device, so it's likely a 4.5" LG.

 

[aohus]

wow, i wrote that the iPhone 5 may have a 4.5 inch LG AH-IPS display and got thumbed down a crap load.

see thread here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1224345/

- iPhone 5 will be the thinnest smartphone in the market
- Launching globally, selling on all 4 U.S carriers and beyond in other foreign markets
- Resolution: 4.5 inch Retina Plus display @ 1280 x 720 with 329ppi. (again, take this with a huge grain of salt, but he claims his source is a Qualcomm employee)
- Display tech: LG AH-IPS. (Please note that in comparison to Samsung's Super AMOLED Plus, the LG AH-IPS display has better power management, and provides more accurate colors than Samsung's "punchy" colors that are inaccurate)
- GPU: PowerVR SGX 540 @ 301Mhz (he claims his source is an ex-TSMC employee)
- Camera: 8MP with 1080p recording @ 24fps (speculative)

 

[kre62]

wow, i wrote that the iPhone 5 may have a 4.5 inch LG AH-IPS display and got thumbed down a crap load.

see thread here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1224345/

Seeing as your post has known inaccurate info (i.e. it's known that the A5 has the PowerVR SGX 543MP, 100% known), its easy to dismiss the rest.

 

[aohus]

Seeing as your post has known inaccurate info (i.e. it's known that the A5 has the PowerVR SGX 543MP, 100% known), its easy to dismiss the rest.

actually, it has the PowerVR SGX 543MP2. No confirmation if that exact GPU will be coming to the iPhone 5. I doubt it, but I could be wrong.

 

[The Californian]

If the iPhone 5 really does get a 4.5" display... I'll buy one immediately. If it was widescreen, that'd be even better. Of course devs would have to change everything, but hey, that's the course of life.

I honestly still don't get why people think devs will be required to change things. Do directors have to re-make movies every time a bigger TV comes out? Then again, I've never made an app.

Also, on topic - companies do often keep products that are going to be used in Apple products a secret until the announcement of said product.

 

[kre62]

actually, it has the PowerVR SGX 543MP2. No confirmation if that exact GPU will be coming to the iPhone 5. I doubt it, but I could be wrong.

You are wrong if you think the iPhone 5 wont have that exact gpu. Apple spends millions on R&D and engineering to design each system on a chip. That SOC includes a specific GPU, CPU, and Ram. Once those processes are in place, Apple will manufacture as many of them as it can to achieve economies of scale.

The GPU for the iPhone5 is currently a known fact.

 

[aohus]

You are wrong if you think the iPhone 5 wont have that exact gpu. Apple spends millions on R&D and engineering to design each system on a chip. That SOC includes a specific GPU, CPU, and Ram. Once those processes are in place, Apple will manufacture as many of them as it can to achieve economies of scale.

The GPU for the iPhone5 is currently a known fact.

99% of the users on here would disagree with you. Its not fact until its fully revealed.

Yes, the GPU will be a PowerVR SGX variant, but I wouldn't be 100% sold that it would be the exact GPU from the iPad2 coming to the iPhone 5. It could just be the PowerVR SGX 543. Then again, I could be wrong. But here is one fact I do know. Nobody knows until the full reveal.

 

[kre62]

99% of the users on here would disagree with you. Its not fact until its fully revealed.

Yes, the GPU will be a PowerVR SGX variant, but I wouldn't be 100% sold that it would be the exact GPU from the iPad2 coming to the iPhone 5. It could just be the PowerVR SGX 543. Then again, I could be wrong. But here is one fact I do know. Nobody knows until the full reveal.

100% fact brah

 

[AIP5]

You are wrong if you think the iPhone 5 wont have that exact gpu. Apple spends millions on R&D and engineering to design each system on a chip. That SOC includes a specific GPU, CPU, and Ram. Once those processes are in place, Apple will manufacture as many of them as it can to achieve economies of scale.

The GPU for the iPhone5 is currently a known fact.

It surprises me that you make such a bold statement there.

Sure, Apple might spend millions of dollars on R&D engineering for each SOC design, but compared to the xx billions of dollars of returns their flagship product will bring them in terms of revenue, that xx million dollar investment seems microscopic.

I actually don't see why Apple wouldn't spend a relatively minute amount of cash from its $76 billion cash pile to ensure that the next iPhone will rank even higher in customer experience and bring them a couple of billion dollars more in revenue... That to me seems more logical than sticking with the same design and not innovating.

But I'm no Apple executive

 

[iEnvy]

A while back there was talk about Toshiba making a 4" 720p display for Apple

 

[iamthedudeman]

The arguement will be a larger screen will be held a greater distance then 12". Thus, the retina classification will still exist.

At the end of the day, Apple will make the rules on what counts as Retina. So far it's defined based on screen size, PPI, and distance from face.

Even the 12" claim for Retina on the 3.5" display was challeneged, so it's not like anything is locked in as far as what does and does not constitute "Retina".

Also, just because there isn't a panel at 960x640 at 4" currently listed as for
sale by LG does not mean they could not easily make one. They arent' going to list an unreleased component, and its not like Apple is known for using COTS (commercial off-the-shelf) components. As if Apple is assembling the iphone5 using currently existing tech only. Like they are some kind of system builder buying parts at Frys for a computer build. Come on dude.

I am not disagreeing with you. I am just saying that based on the current facts, a 4.5 would be logical since they already make that screen. As far as retina classified as what ever Apple feels that it needs to be. Being a owner and operator of a marketing firm, you never classify someting as being product A, while making a new product A and classifying it the same while giving less.

That is called marketing suicide, which Apple would never do and have never done.

No one said that Apple is making the iphone using existing parts. I don't know where you are getting that from. It is easier to get parts and cheaper if the manufacturer is already making said part, than retooling a new one just for one business. Not that Apple having LG wouldn't make a 4 screen, I already said they very well could.

Holding a screen further away from you regardless of PPI does not make it a 'retina' display, contrary to your analogy. They would have to follow their current specs that they have for the 3.5 current retina display. Which is 329PPI(or 326?) And which the 4.5 has the same PPI as the 3.5 inch display.

Like I said you have it backward.

That was the whole point of the thread, they already make a 4.5 screen and LG has been pegged as providing the display for the iphone 5 by the report which Samsung leaked themselves being a parts supplier.

 

[war eagle]

For the people thinking 4.5 is too big, I did too until I got the Samsung Infuse 4G. Now I can't picture using a phone any smaller, but I'm going to get the Samsung Galaxy S II. If it comes out before the iPhone 5 and/or if the iPhone 5 screen is less than 4 inches.