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is it me or the blank spot for iPhone seems bigger then iPhone 4 ;) :D

edit: didnt read page 8... some one brought it up

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The good news for Sprint and Verizon customers is that ATT's HSPA+ network is garbage so having this feature won't matter in the US.
 
I'm wondering if Verizon is going to be behind again. Without LTE this is a bit lame for Verizon customers

Yes, Verizon is touting LTE all over billboards and TV here in Tampa, and it's available as far as I know. Verizon people will be reluctant to choose the iPhone I think then.
 
Please someone enlighten me and tell me what do we need 4G speed for and what applications will you use it with that sort of speed?
Most of people here they don't even have access to 4G but yet they want it in iPhone and they can't explain even why that want it.
There where I live I got 3G most of the time and I am more than happy....for torrents I got desktop at home:rolleyes:


I use my LTE service for teathering. My job has me on the go and it is nice to be able to do work in my truck on my laptop when needed. Teathering at 3G speeds is painful compared to LTE speeds that rival my home internet. I do agree that there are really not any mobile applications besides streaming video that need LTE speed actually on the phone. But if you teather a lot, you will never go back to 3G after using LTE.

And the way the plans are setup, it is cheeper for me to teather from an LTE phone rather than get a dongle or mifi. With my grandfathered plan and employee discount, I get unlimited mobile hotspot as a $20 add-on to my phone plan. If I got a mifi, I would have to get a $30 2G capped plan.
 
4G isn't even out in the UK so doesn't affect me but am getting more excited by the day about iPhone 5
 
Hspa+/lte/4g

HSPA+ may be referred to as 4G but its technically not 4G. LTE is 4G, HSPA+ is an advanced and faster 3G network. SO NO LTE IPHONE!
 
While I don't doubt the CDMA numbers are low, are these real statistics or did you just make them up?

No, but I doubt the real figures would be much different from the basis of the current GSM Market share,


There is HSPA+ in the UK.

But it is not misleadingly advertised as 4G.

No one in the UK seems bothered about 4G, most networks are just advertising it as faster internet, Ofcom would kill them in minutes if they lied.


And to all those moaning that 21Mbps is not as fast as 40Mbps, at the end of the day, even streaming porn wouldn't need that amount of bandwidth.
 
Come on this should not be a surprise to any one. AT&T is going to push it as their faux G and then then push it how the other carriers do not have the faux G iPhone.
 
"capable" of 21mps is nothing to get too excited about here in the US. AT&T's HSPA+ coverage with "advanced backhaul" isn't even available in most areas, and even where it's at, the speeds are only 5-6mpbs average at best. I was testing an Atrix speed next to the iphone both using the speedtest app in an AT&T store. This was in a "4G" coverage area, both consistenly pulled the same speed as even the current iP4 is capable of speeds close to 7-8-mbps. I doubt you will ever see HSPA + speeds above 10mbps here in the USA with AT&T as they are dumping all their money into rolling out LTE.
 
The good news for Sprint and Verizon customers is that ATT's HSPA+ network is garbage so having this feature won't matter in the US.

Have you tried ATT's HSPA+ network? I've used it in several cities over the last few months and I regularly get 4-6 Mbps and more importantly, sub 100ms latencies. It's much faster than Verizon 3G and more consistent than Sprint's WiMax. The only network that is better is Verizon's LTE with even higher performance and lower latencies. But, if it's not supported on the iPhone, then AT&T will be the best choice. Even better than a WiMax iPhone, IMO.
 
For some reason this is more important to most people here than having more features. They prefer to brag about how much money Apple is making.
They brag about it because it shows that Apple is managing to assemble a product that is higher-valued by its actual user than the competition (if the users would not value it higher, they would not pay more for it).

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While I don't doubt the CDMA numbers are low, are these real statistics or did you just make them up?
He made them up, the real numbers are more like 12%:
http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/27/the-verizon-small-bang/
 
HSPA+ is not 4G

The professionals in the industry disagree with you.

The standards body that ratifies the standards, the telecom carriers, the handset manufacturers. Just know that you are sitting ignorant and solitary in your delusional state.
 
The professionals in the industry disagree with you.

The standards body that ratifies the standards, the telecom carriers, the handset manufacturers. Just know that you are sitting ignorant and solitary in your delusional state.

That depends on what day you spoke with them.
 
Hmm, a little browsing suggests that this HSPA+ network has not generally lived up to its purported speeds. However, it still seems like a step forward. I wonder if it's enough to make me switch back to iPhone/AT&T...and endure AT&T's dropped calls...
 
I agree with the carriers and consider HSPA + to be 4G as long as it has the backhaul. If Sprint's WiMax is 4G then HSPA+ is just as 4G or more because it's just as fast or faster. Fact is LTE isn't real 4G either if you get technical. I hate when the geeks on the internet say LTE is real 4G and HSPA+ isn't.
 
The professionals in the industry disagree with you.

The standards body that ratifies the standards, the telecom carriers, the handset manufacturers. Just know that you are sitting ignorant and solitary in your delusional state.

This.

HSPA+ is 4G. Stop resisting it and just lay back and accept it, if not embrace it.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME in time HSPA+ is a better 4G solution than LTE for one sole reason: Battery life.

I have an Atrix and the battery life on it is phenomenal. I can go 2 days between charges with moderate use. The Thunderbolt by comparison has horrendous battery life.

Once LTE chips stop sucking batteries dry, LTE will be the superior 4G solution, but right now Apple is choosing the best option for 4G.

Of course, it stinks for those on Verizon or Sprint.
 
thats great, we upgraded my internet a couple months ago, i'm capping out at 2.5MB/s i could just use a new phone for tethering :)
 
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