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Not surprised at all especially considering the bloat OEM skins add

I have a Nexus 7 which is 100% pure Google with zero bloat, and it still feels like crap compared to iOS devices. Funny part is they advertise the 1080p screen on the Nexus 7 as a major selling point, but the thing can't even play a frickin Netflix video without stuttering. It's truly pathetic. Luckily I primarily bought it to be a textbook e-reader and nothing more. I occasionally do some light browsing and words with friends on it but that's it.
 
That video makes even 50 ms. seem like way too slow. 10 is noticeably better, with 1 being awesome. We want 1 ms! :eek:
 
I guess it is OK to talk specs as long as Apple beats Android. As soon as you bring up specs that are better in an Android device, all of the sudden you are a "specwhore".
 
I have a Nexus 7 which is 100% pure Google with zero bloat, and it still feels like crap compared to iOS devices. Funny part is they advertise the 1080p screen on the Nexus 7 as a major selling point, but the thing can't even play a frickin Netflix video without stuttering. It's truly pathetic. Luckily I primarily bought it to be a textbook e-reader and nothing more. I occasionally do some light browsing and words with friends on it but that's it.

it's funny how people will quote the specs and price and claim their awesomeness. Maybe they never use iOS much and just assume that the more expensive worse spec'd ipad is even slower or something. :D

Every once and a while there was an option I wish apple included (speed up animations and no fade of brightness on lock screen wake are my latest iOS 7 wishes), but i'll deal with it for overall simplicity and sweetness.
 
I felt embarrassed by this feature. When all that someone can come up with is screen (a) is so many "milliseconds" yes that's right "milliseconds" faster than screen (b) then you know the opposition is clutching at straws and is really worried.

It is features like this that make Apple look totally ridiculous and paranoid. If it was my company I would not want this type of comparison to be drawn. It makes one look like that's all you've got in your arsenal. :rolleyes:
 
I guess it is OK to talk specs as long as Apple beats Android. As soon as you bring up specs that are better in an Android device, all of the sudden you are a "specwhore".

This isn't a discussion about spec though, it's the result of a benchmark, it shows real world results. The take home point should be that spec in itself isn't interesting, it's the resulting performance.
 
Agreed. When I took up the 5, I could feel a noticeable difference in responsiveness versus my other android devices.
 
im not surprised. might be bias, but everytime i use an android phone, it feels clunky and slow.

Let's be real - we're not bias. It is just simply a fact that iPhone is a superior product compared to every other model mentioned in this study. Heck, considering that iOS is far more advanced than Android, I'd have iPhone 4S way ahead of SG4 and HTC one in terms of overall package.
 
I guess it is OK to talk specs as long as Apple beats Android. As soon as you bring up specs that are better in an Android device, all of the sudden you are a "specwhore".

No. The point was always that the kind of specs that are touted on Android (Mhz, # of cores) don't mean much if it doesn't result in better real world performance and responsiveness, which is exactly what these tests show.
 
You're able to tell a marked difference between 1/20th of a second, and 1/10th of a second? You must have the reflexes of 5 cats hopped up on pure, uncut Colombian cocaine.

You would be surprised. The difference between responsiveness on Android devices and Apple devices is pretty obvious if you've used both.
 
This isn't a discussion about spec though, it's the result of a benchmark, it shows real world results. The take home point should be that spec in itself isn't interesting, it's the resulting performance.

But it's only when that difference becomes discernibly noticeable and impacts on user experience that it becomes relevant, and I'm not sure that's the case here.
 
Finally someone has quantified what I've thought for a long time. The problem with Android touch screen lag doesn't have anything to do with the frame rate of the resulting animation. It's the lag from touch input to OS action that iOS users immediately notice when they use Android.
 
Could be because iOS prioritized touch input over other threads so it responds much faster. These days android hardware is fast enough that unless your really fussy the lag time won't bother you much. It's much better then 2yrs ago.

Nope, at least not on my Samsung GS4. I remember being astonished the first week I had it that I waited 1-2 seconds for dialed numbers to appear onscreen. Apple deserves a ton of credit for recognizing that screen metaphors for physical things had to respond immediately.
 
I guess it is OK to talk specs as long as Apple beats Android. As soon as you bring up specs that are better in an Android device, all of the sudden you are a "specwhore".

You're kidding me right? Should I bring you back to the iPhone 4 days, where an iPhone with a single core processor annihilated the android competition with dual core processors at a higher clock speed? The lag was horrendous.

Android has obviously improved and phones may even be too fast to tell which preforms better, but the iPhone has always performed better. The specwhores are those who flop in orgasmic pleasure from the numbers on a spec sheet and actually think it's all that matters.
 
But it's only when that difference becomes discernibly noticeable and impacts on user experience that it becomes relevant, and I'm not sure that's the case here.

Are you suggesting that it's not possible to notice 100ms? It is, you can easily tap your finger on a table surface that fast.
 
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