Wrong, look at Samsung, the S5 is their flagship phone, just also happend to offer at S5 Mini and Note 3. The 6 is the flagship phone, the 5s and 6+ are just for those who want something different. Next year will likely be a 5s for free, 6 for 99, 6S for 199, and 6S+ for 299.
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iPhone 5c experiment deemed a failure?
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Wrong, look at Samsung, the S5 is their flagship phone, just also happend to offer at S5 Mini and Note 3. The 6 is the flagship phone, the 5s and 6+ are just for those who want something different. Next year will likely be a 5s for free, 6 for 99, 6S for 199, and 6S+ for 299.
Why? Because it "only" has 750P and no IOS? Please! Don't make me laugh.
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Finally. A sane voice amongst the noise of the rabble.
No. It it's one flagship model in two lines. It's no different than a BMW 7 series w/ the various lines; luxury, sport, etc or a Chevy Silverado (flagship truck) with various bed sizes.
Nope. I always viewed the 5c as a supply chain move with two simple objectives -- remove any bottlenecks from the production process, and boost margins. Going from a CNC-machined aluminum shell to molded plastic and stamped steel framing significantly sped up the production, and saved money. Plus, it allowed more CNC-machining capacity to be used for the iPhone 5s launch.
Recall that the iPhone 5 launch was plagued by production yield problems with the aluminum shell. Keeping the iPhone 5, while launching the 5s, would have required a huge increase in machining capacity, and run the risk of supply shortages at launch.
Think about it. Tim Cook is the supply chain genius. Seeing the 5c as a supply chain move totally makes sense. That the 5c could be marketed as a "new" model was just a side benefit.
The measure of how well the 5c did was to compare it to the year-over-year sales of the model that it replaced in Apple's middle price point -- the iPhone 4s. By all accounts, the 5c easily outpaced the 4s on a year-over-year comparison. The tech bloggers eager to stroke themselves after preordaining 5c as a failure, took the obvious lie-by-omission path by comparing the 5c sales with the 5s. Proclaiming the 5c as a failure because it did not outsell the 5s made about as much sense as deeming the 4 a failure because it did not outsell the 4s, or any year-old model because it cannot outsell a brand new model.
Recall that the iPhone 5 launch was plagued by production yield problems with the aluminum shell. Keeping the iPhone 5, while launching the 5s, would have required a huge increase in machining capacity, and run the risk of supply shortages at launch.
Think about it. Tim Cook is the supply chain genius. Seeing the 5c as a supply chain move totally makes sense. That the 5c could be marketed as a "new" model was just a side benefit.
The measure of how well the 5c did was to compare it to the year-over-year sales of the model that it replaced in Apple's middle price point -- the iPhone 4s. By all accounts, the 5c easily outpaced the 4s on a year-over-year comparison. The tech bloggers eager to stroke themselves after preordaining 5c as a failure, took the obvious lie-by-omission path by comparing the 5c sales with the 5s. Proclaiming the 5c as a failure because it did not outsell the 5s made about as much sense as deeming the 4 a failure because it did not outsell the 4s, or any year-old model because it cannot outsell a brand new model.
I think with Apple's huge cash reserves, the 5c can't be called a failure. Its just an R&D experiment to see if they could motivate some of the lower end market to their camp away from the cheaper Android alternatives.
It had its day in the sun and now its a freebie.
It had its day in the sun and now its a freebie.
WTF are you talking about?!?
For sale, right now:
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 5s
iPhone 5c
http://store.apple.com/us/iphone/family/iphone/compare
Did I miss the point of this thread?
For sale, right now:
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 6
iPhone 5s
iPhone 5c
http://store.apple.com/us/iphone/family/iphone/compare
Did I miss the point of this thread?
Oh dear, do you have an inferiority complex in the real world as well? The 6+ is the phablet, the 6 is the phone, both with virtually identical internals. Just like the Galaxy Note 3 and Galaxy S5 co-exist for Samsung.
The 5c is just a cheaper alternative for some people, (including the Royal family in the UK). It has sold in large quantities, there is every chance of a 6c next year to follow it.
Maybe, but I would imagine that the plastic makes the 5c cheaper to produce than a 5.
true, but it's not a new product being introduced at the $99 price point like the 5c was.
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ok, but $199 starting price point was their old model. they didn't try the $99 starting price point again with a completely new (albeit really just a slight redesign) product.
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They wouldn't have kept the 5 for the same price. They would have offered it for $99 like they did for the original, the 3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S.
But they didn't. They eliminated the 5.
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Bingo.
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I don't see it that way at all
I see them as the same phone, in two sizes. The only differences are optical image stabilization, a larger screen which provides full HD (and more PPI) and longer battery life due to size. It's not like these are earth shattering differences.
The 6 is the flagship - it comes in two flavors. The base and the plus. This is not a stretch.
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LOL @ iphone 6 minus!
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I see what you are saying, but why wouldn't it be continued with a 5sc or something to get the same margin squeezing...