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iPhone 5C Predicted to Replace iPhone 5, iPhone 4S Sales to Continue
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no, its a pretty good chance that the iphone 5C is only for China. the largest carrier there has their own proprietary network and the 4S won't work on it.
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I'm fine with having a phone that might be discontinued, if any problems arise I'll worry about it when it comes up.
I'm fine with having a phone that might be discontinued, if any problems arise I'll worry about it when it comes up.
No, you're not understanding the significance of what they're trying to do, at all. Apple has limited ability to produce new products, and is doing something NEW AND UNIQUE this time, by replacing 3 separate iPhones with 1. The 4, 4S, and 5 are ALL being replaced by the 5C.
Contemplate that for bit, and you'll be more capable of commenting on this.
I misunderstood, sorry.
However, you're argumented is based on Apple not being able to produce the 5C as much as the 4S. I find that hard to believe.
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No, ofcourse not. Apple will just make a slightly different version for China Mobile, just as they did with Verizon. Currently, there are three different iPhone 5 basebands around.
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Originally Posted by JayJayAbels
On the surface it doesn't make sense but dig deeper and it absolutely does.
The iPhone 5S is the big dog.
- innovative Fingerprint sensor
- 4" screen
- new A7 processor
- new 12 MP camera
- new 32, 64, 128 gig capacities
- Snazzy new "champagne" color option
- $600 to $700
The iPhone 5C is mid tier
- 4" screen
- available in multiple colors
- A6 processor
- 8MP upgraded camera
- 16, 32, 64 gig capacities
- new plastic housing
- $350 to $450
The iPhone 4S is low end
- 3.5" screen
- 2 color options
- A5 processor
- 8MP camera
- 16 gig capacity
- perfect for emerging markets (China)
- $0 to $200
All 3 iPhone models come with iOS7.
With the China Mobile deal in place... it makes sense.
September 10th can't come quick enough.
As a buyer, I don't see why I should buy an iPhone 5S. There's not enough difference between the 5C and the 5S.
The prices are a little out if whack. The $600-$700 shown for a 5S is an unsunsidized price. The $0-$200 shown for the 4C is obviously a subsidized price. The real price is $400 higher. There just isn't that much of a priice spread on the different iPhone generations.
The elephant in the room in Cupertino is that they've been selling 1 yr old and 2 yr old phones discounted by $100 & $200 to hit the $0 subsidized price point in the US. And this is a problem because the older phiones cost just as much to manufacture as the current top-of-the-line model. So those discounts come right out of Apple's margins. And as the feature differences from year to year become less pronounced more buyers are taking the discount.
The iPhone 5C seems to be about trying to get those margins back up in the US (and other subsidized) market. Partly by lowering the manufacturing costs but also by giving them a less premium feel to encourage purchasers to opt for the newest phone.
Originally Posted by JayJayAbels
On the surface it doesn't make sense but dig deeper and it absolutely does.
The iPhone 5S is the big dog.
- innovative Fingerprint sensor
- 4" screen
- new A7 processor
- new 12 MP camera
- new 32, 64, 128 gig capacities
- Snazzy new "champagne" color option
- $600 to $700
The iPhone 5C is mid tier
- 4" screen
- available in multiple colors
- A6 processor
- 8MP upgraded camera
- 16, 32, 64 gig capacities
- new plastic housing
- $350 to $450
The iPhone 4S is low end
- 3.5" screen
- 2 color options
- A5 processor
- 8MP camera
- 16 gig capacity
- perfect for emerging markets (China)
- $0 to $200
All 3 iPhone models come with iOS7.
With the China Mobile deal in place... it makes sense.
September 10th can't come quick enough.
As a buyer, I don't see why I should buy an iPhone 5S. There's not enough difference between the 5C and the 5S.
The prices are a little out if whack. The $600-$700 shown for a 5S is an unsunsidized price. The $0-$200 shown for the 4C is obviously a subsidized price. The real price is $400 higher. There just isn't that much of a priice spread on the different iPhone generations.
The elephant in the room in Cupertino is that they've been selling 1 yr old and 2 yr old phones discounted by $100 & $200 to hit the $0 subsidized price point in the US. And this is a problem because the older phiones cost just as much to manufacture as the current top-of-the-line model. So those discounts come right out of Apple's margins. And as the feature differences from year to year become less pronounced more buyers are taking the discount.
The iPhone 5C seems to be about trying to get those margins back up in the US (and other subsidized) market. Partly by lowering the manufacturing costs but also by giving them a less premium feel to encourage purchasers to opt for the newest phone.
Repairs
Having replaced a screen on two iPhone 4s, I'm looking forward to the 5C. It's plastic casing makes it look as easy to repair as the 3G and the 3GS. The 4 and everything after we're such a pain for any repairs other than the back casing.
Having replaced a screen on two iPhone 4s, I'm looking forward to the 5C. It's plastic casing makes it look as easy to repair as the 3G and the 3GS. The 4 and everything after we're such a pain for any repairs other than the back casing.
All speculation about shipments and what will be more popular.
They should go play the lottery since they seem to be able to predict the future.
It's fairly obvious that the 5c will eventually replace the 4s.
It's clear that they have to sell through the channel and clear existing inventory.
Sheesh... Who are these people??
They should go play the lottery since they seem to be able to predict the future.
It's fairly obvious that the 5c will eventually replace the 4s.
It's clear that they have to sell through the channel and clear existing inventory.
Sheesh... Who are these people??
I think the simplest / most logical line up would be just the 5C and 5S. No more 4S / 3.5" screen / 30pin connector / A5 SoC
iPhone 5C (A6 based)
8GB - $0 on contract
16GB - $99 on contract
iPhone 5S (A7 based)
32GB - $199 on contract
64Gb - $299 on contract
128GB - $399 on contract
Then come October with iPads:
iPad mini 2nd gen (A6 based)
iPad 5th gen (A7 based)
iPhone 5C (A6 based)
8GB - $0 on contract
16GB - $99 on contract
iPhone 5S (A7 based)
32GB - $199 on contract
64Gb - $299 on contract
128GB - $399 on contract
Then come October with iPads:
iPad mini 2nd gen (A6 based)
iPad 5th gen (A7 based)
The new iPhone lineup will look like this:
iPhone 5C - Essentially iPhone 4S parts (maybe a little better) but with a 4 inch screen (maybe retina?) and the Lightning connector.
16GB - $0
32GB - $99
64GB - $199
iPhone 5S - Speaks for itself, new tech specs in an iPhone 5 body.
32GB - $199
64GB - $299
128GB - $399
You heard it here first, folks!
4S 16g Free on Contract
5C $99 16g on contract 32, 64 available.
5S $199 32g on contract. 64, 128 available.
Different Carriers will vary, unlocked phones will vary.
There is NOTHING cheap in the Polymer 5C. It is a new composition of the polymer used in the 3G. The 5C will have a much small feature set than the 5C. From RAM to to no 128 option to an A5 on steroids.
4S will be 16g. Period. Need more, get a 5C or 5S. I realize MR is mainly comprised of Elite Power Users will decades of user experience. However, I know many people that do just fine on 16g, and a free iPhone.
It's really becoming irritating reading about the "Plastic" iPhone 5C. Have any of you plastizoids spent any time looking at the reinforcing aluminum support structure in the 5C? The 5C is not a cheap phone. It is a phone with less features, older design internals, and a VERY robust polymer shell with an aluminum internal chassis.
It was designed for Asia, and IMO sell very well in the US. As will the poor lonely 16g 4S.
The latest and greatest 5S will be there for all the experts to own for a week, then start the "What do we want in the iPhone 6 thread."
Bingo! I still have the iPhone 4 and fine with it. I won't upgrade to iOS 7...looks hideous. But, to each their own.
I was ready to say gibberish about Apple, but not phasing out the iPhone 4S, if that actually happens, can make a lot of sense!
If the 4S is phased out in late '13 it means, obviously, that it will be discontinued before a new model arrives. I guess it would allow Apple to finish the stock. Now it's like the 16GB iPod touch all over again! They might launch a lower-capacity 5C in Q1 2014. This way they will profit a lot more at the beginning and open a new buying choice with no fuss.
What doesn't make any sense IMO is if the 5C costs more than $450. And that is an already hefty price tag.
If the 4S is phased out in late '13 it means, obviously, that it will be discontinued before a new model arrives. I guess it would allow Apple to finish the stock. Now it's like the 16GB iPod touch all over again! They might launch a lower-capacity 5C in Q1 2014. This way they will profit a lot more at the beginning and open a new buying choice with no fuss.
What doesn't make any sense IMO is if the 5C costs more than $450. And that is an already hefty price tag.
First of all don't ever tell me what or how to think about products when forming an opinion.
Second the 4S solves everything you mentioned in your know-it-all rant.
The 4S has been selling like hot cakes and with the new partnership with China Mobile that will only increase market share. (While providing a compelling reason for users in that marketplace to upgrade next year).
Everything is conjecture at this point and this isn't the first time this rumor has floated around.
To me, in MY opinion, it makes sense financially.
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The problem is that too many people are hung up on the 30 pin connector.
In China that does NOT matter.
Just because it - on the surface - seems like Apple would want to unify the connectors to lightening doesn't mean they'll do so at the expense of profit margins.
The 4S stays in my opinion.
The iPhone 4S is the most popular product Apple has ever sold, not a surprise if they keep it around a while longer; the margins they are getting on it at this point must be huge.
if they discontinue the 5, what happens when you have to get a replacement unit for some malfunction? you get a 5S?
Cabalizing iphone 5 sales is a smart move for apple just like they did with mini ipad.