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With the 4s still in the picture Looks like the iphone c will go for about $99 on contract. No way they can sell it for the same price as the 4s with a larger screen and expect anyone to buy the 4s.

So much for it being a budget phone looking like $500 off contract.

$450 off contract. And yes, the 4S will be FREE w/contract. And no, there won't be a 5 going forward.

Next year - two different 6's - 4.7 and 4.3 - and two different 6C's -4.7 and 4.3 (with the 5S's internals)

I'm always right, so listen.
 
Who would buy iPhone 5S for 199$ if you can buy basically same iPhone 5 for 99$. Apple can't innovate 5S enough for make it resonable buy over 5, so they'll make 5 worse. But I still can't believe that gonna happen.

I'm not commenting on your proposed pricing structure, but some people just want the latest phone. Also, improving new models, doesn't equate to making older models worse. The lure could be:

-- Slightly better internals + latest processor
-- Improved camera
-- Fingerprint unlocking
-- Availability of alluring champagne color
-- The only phone with 128GB option

Any single one of the above five features, could be enough to sway some people towards that newer 5S.

But taken together, for millions of people, a worthwhile reason to upgrade imho.
 
Have no desire to move to the lightning connector anytime soon with a box load of 30 pin connector devices. I'll upgrade my 4S to another 4S with larger storage capacity first.
 
this makes no sense to me at all. why continue to make the 4S? it doesn't have LTE or a lightning connector. and it has a smaller screen. if you stop making it, you could have all 4" screens and all have the same size again
 
Doesn't seem right at all. Why keep the 4s going when the coloured phone is going to be a plastic 5, and cheaper. Wouldn't that cheaper phone basically be the same price as the 4s?

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I'm not commenting on your proposed pricing structure, but some people just want the latest phone. Also, improving new models, doesn't equate to making older models worse. The lure could be:

-- Slightly better internals + latest processor
-- Improved camera
-- Fingerprint unlocking
-- Availability of alluring champagne color
-- The only phone with 128GB option

Any single one of the above five features, could be enough to sway some people towards that newer 5S.

But taken together, for millions of people, a worthwhile reason to upgrade imho.

Im not saying your wrong, but i only see it being a worthy upgrade to certain people. People on here that want the latest iphone, and people that happen to have their contract ending at the same time as the release. To any other person on the street the 5s will look the same as a 5, and if they already have one i don't think they'd upgrade. Maybe not even from a 4s
 
I just can't see myself buying such a plastic phone, but I'm sure it will be very successful. Feature-wise I'm sure its better than an iPhone 4S but must feel cheap.

The only difference in features between 4S and 5 is the longer screen, the LTE (decent 3G should be around 7 Mbps) and the lightning dock (who cares). All else is slightly improved specs but those 2 phones are virtually identical.
 
$450 off contract. And yes, the 4S will be FREE w/contract. And no, there won't be a 5 going forward.

Next year - two different 6's - 4.7 and 4.3 - and two different 6C's -4.7 and 4.3 (with the 5S's internals)

I'm always right, so listen.

If they add 2 more sizes to design for I might flip out. I dont see why they wouldnt just add a 5inch and be done with it. Otherwise the rest sounds good to me.
 
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Apple is obviously going to subsitute the iPhone 4S with the iPhone 4C, Lightning included. ;)
 
One of the rumors I'm starting to hear is that Apple will make the iPhone 5C compatible with TD-SCDMA digital cellular networks (very necessary for China Mobile compatibility) and TD-LTE (since both China and India have begun TD-LTE rollout). This might be accomplished using an updated Qualcomm design radio chip.
 
I was ready to say gibberish about Apple, but not phasing out the iPhone 4S, if that actually happens, can make a lot of sense!

If the 4S is phased out in late '13 it means, obviously, that it will be discontinued before a new model arrives. I guess it would allow Apple to finish the stock. Now it's like the 16GB iPod touch all over again! They might launch a lower-capacity 5C in Q1 2014. This way they will profit a lot more at the beginning and open a new buying choice with no fuss.



What doesn't make any sense IMO is if the 5C costs more than $450. And that is an already hefty price tag.


What about all the iPhone 5? Those are in stock as well.

I think you fail to understand is that they will NO longer make iPhone 5's at all. Discontinued. But they will continue making iPhone 4S until Dec.

So current stock has nothing to do with discontinued or still in production.

I'm very sad the iPhones 5 are being rumored to be discontinued.

Makes the iPhone 5 feel like a 9 month old HTC. All HTC models get discontinued after 8 months of release.

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I'm not commenting on your proposed pricing structure, but some people just want the latest phone. Also, improving new models, doesn't equate to making older models worse. The lure could be:

-- Slightly better internals + latest processor
-- Improved camera
-- Fingerprint unlocking
-- Availability of alluring champagne color
-- The only phone with 128GB option

Any single one of the above five features, could be enough to sway some people towards that newer 5S.

But taken together, for millions of people, a worthwhile reason to upgrade imho.


Not after one year.

After 2 years when the contract expires, perhaps. But just having bought a 700 USD phone for those upgrades (and spending an additional amount of cash difference) is just the game of keeping up with the joneses.

The iPhone 6 will have the above plus newer updates. For "millions of people," that would be greater incentive to upgrade from an iPhone 5.

If people are still using the iPhone 4 or 4S, then the 5S is perfect for an upgrade.

But for those who have a 5? Spending 700-800 USD a year on an updated phone is not that economically smart. It'd be fun and plenty of gawks, but hey, we're talking smart purchases here.
 
Why would you not phase out the 4S and make your available product lineup have a standardized connector? I understand why they didn't phase out the iPad 2 (mostly because I think they didn't know how well the iPad mini would perform) but why not just eliminate the 30-pin altogether?

To some people the 30-pin connector (and equally importantly micro-sim) is a selling point... There are many more 30-pin accessories than Lightning ones out there. It's a major reason why I'm holding off upgrading my iphone 4.
 
Why do people keep saying no Siri.

Siri barely cost Apple anything since it's up and running anyway.
If anything Siri provides apple with a lot of valuable information.

I agree, but rumors has it that not having Siri will distinguish it from the iPhone 5S and will reduce cannibalization of the 5S. As innovative as adding a fingerprint reader, it's not that major of an innovation. Especially since there's been fingerprint readers on computers for over a decade. A lot of people will see the new iPhone as an incremental update, and some of the updates will not be that important for them to update to the 5S. However, if they have a 4S already, and they use Siri often, then not having Siri will be a way to prevent them to buy a 5S.
 
No, you're not understanding the significance of what they're trying to do, at all. Apple has limited ability to produce new products, and is doing something NEW AND UNIQUE this time, by replacing 3 separate iPhones with 1. The 4, 4S, and 5 are ALL being replaced by the 5C.

Contemplate that for bit, and you'll be more capable of commenting on this.

Looking ahead, it's a bit more complicated though: in a year's time, Apple would need to upgrade two models rather than one. So, are they planning to make the 5s obsolete, or continue two product lines (with all the associated inventory duplication). In the latter case, they would have four phones (5c, 5cs, 5s, 6) and a huge number of options... Someone in Apple must surely be wishing the iphone had an SD card slot :)
 
What if the "iPhone 5C" isn't an iPhone at all? Maybe it is finally a LTE version of the iPod Touch? The body layout is almost identical to the 5th Gen iPod Touch.
 
I got sick of waiting for Apple to come out with a real upgrade so I just bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 32GB. Not much to complain about - 1080p AMOLED screen, SD slot, 5+ Mbps on LTE when in a fringe area for the cell (2 bars in Norwell MA) for LTW, 27.86 Mbps at home (near Epping, NH - out in the boonies), 13 megapixel camera which allows me to set ISO and white balance manually (and as a bonus the HDR mode actually seems to work, without the over-done tone mapping!), it's FAST, and the screen is GORGEOUS. Also, battery life? So far so good - and I have a 7500mah battery on the way so I can be even less tethered.

I've got all the major apps I want installed except TomTom (which I'll have to buy again so for now I'm carrying two phones for now) and Plants vs. Zombies 2 (which isn't announced for Android yet) and have moved some of my ebooks and I still have 22GB free and I haven't even touched the SD card yet. I can read full-page PDF files with the single/full page view clearly legible thanks to the glorious 1080p/441ppi screen - and I get a better notification screen than the iPhone, and a button bar which blows even sbsettings away. Oh, and gadgets - I had a lot of fun customizing my pages. Oh yeah, and Adobe Flash, so I can go back and check out Strongbad again. :)

Get with the program apple! I wanted to stick with the iPhone, but you've really stagnated. The big attraction for the 5C is colors, when pretty much everyone is going to cover it up in an aftermarket case? Really? Puh-leeze. I wanted a bigger, higher resolution (and by that I mean both tighter dot pitch AND more total pixels) screen and an SD slot and you failed to deliver.
 
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Nope. ;)

My predictions:
- iPhone 5s -$199
- iPhone 5 -$99
- iPhone 5c - free/under 400$ unlocked.

No way Apple will sell a device without Lightning connector in 2014.
 
This lends credence to stories that the 4 and 4S have been outselling the 5 lately. For Apple to retire the 5 and keep the 4S in play is an admission of defeat on the 5. But then again, if what they're really doing is taking the guts of the 5 and placing them in a plastic case with only one speaker instead of two, then the 5 hasn't really gone away. It's just been resurrected in a colored plastic case and sold for less. Sell it in the USA. It will outsell the 5S, but who cares? Apple still makes the money.
 
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