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I don't know where they got the RMB4000 sweet spot figure. Majority of the population in China don't even earn RMB4000 a month.
 
I remember when people wanted smaller phones, because the phones back then were so huge and heavy and wouldn't fit in pockets. Every time I see somebody with one of those monster samsung phones, I think of this:

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Why anyone would want Apple to follow suit and reverse the smaller-is-better trend for mobile communications is beyond me.

A lot of people use their devices for far more than just talking, and a bigger screen is often very useful for those other activities. Moreover, the larger screens often fit in nearly the same space as the smaller screen on devices that waste space with larger bezel areas.

As for the ridiculous exaggeration of size that people often use, that works both ways. For instance, the idea that "Smaller is better" is soooo 2001 :)

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Source?

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...tphone-market-share-to-cheaper-models-1-.html

http://bgr.com/2013/05/28/apple-china-market-share-q1-2013-samsung/

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...n-q2-2013-india-now-the-third-largest-market/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/17/us-apple-china-idUSTRE81G08220120217


While Apple still delivers a good user experience with its closely controlled ecosystem, that’s no longer enough to maintain share in China, said Sandy Shen, a Gartner Inc. analyst in Shanghai.
Apple’s “advantage is evaporating as competition inches in with better value for the money,” Shen said “If it does come up with a low-end model, that is a self-acknowledgement that Apple lacks innovation and has to compete with low-cost models in order to gain share.”

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SJ had nothing against plastic. Just selling out.

It's silly how people fails to understand the meaning of a metaphor. Plastic in this conext means cheap, just as the products that are been showed here, those are all lower end models in the Apple product line up.

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im an american -- i dont desire a bigger screen. i have a mini ipad for that.

So what are you suggesting here? That only Americans are able to enjoy watching Lawrence of Arabia in full HD on a matchbox?
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...tphone-market-share-to-cheaper-models-1-.html

http://bgr.com/2013/05/28/apple-china-market-share-q1-2013-samsung/

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...n-q2-2013-india-now-the-third-largest-market/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/17/us-apple-china-idUSTRE81G08220120217


While Apple still delivers a good user experience with its closely controlled ecosystem, that’s no longer enough to maintain share in China, said Sandy Shen, a Gartner Inc. analyst in Shanghai.
Apple’s “advantage is evaporating as competition inches in with better value for the money,” Shen said “If it does come up with a low-end model, that is a self-acknowledgement that Apple lacks innovation and has to compete with low-cost models in order to gain share.”

None of those sources show market share among T1-T2 cities in China.
 
Clearly you don't leave your suburban bubble if you think the "urban youth" these days don't carry around iphones.

Yes these are the same youth who save months and months of $ to buy a pair of jordan sneakers.

No, they don't have credit to buy a BMW. 0 chance.

Lets be real here.

Hate to break it to you buy anyone can get a low interest car loan or lease as long as they have decent credit. The comparison of an entry BMW to an entry iPhone in concept is similar. Yes, $800 is less than $35K but that isn't the comparison. An $800 phone in 2013 is expensive regardless of income or net worth. But I doubt a significant number of low income individuals toil to save $800 -- a months rent! to blow on a phone. I wouldn't even do that & I'm not low income or vicinity.

As for China, in the poorer areas the iPhone 5 isn't a big seller compared to less expensive Androids which is why the iPhone 5C is being pushed out. China is the final frontier for Apple & iPhone growth.

Finally, no one cares whether you prefer Audi to BMW or any other car & it's entirely off point.
 
None of those sources show market share among T1-T2 cities in China.

True, but they do show a decline in market share in general and that's what count's in the end, especially for Apple.



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China is the final frontier for Apple & iPhone growth..

You're missing a whole continent here, don't forget Europe, Apple's marketshare has declined in Europe, and is still declining in Europe as well. But yeah, that's why it's a good thing Apple comes with cheaper devises. Quantity over quality. A wise move.
 
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True, but they do show a decline in market share in general

Yep. But that's not what you said originally.

and that's what count's in the end, especially for Apple.

It's one of many factors that needs to be taken in context. For example, Apple probably doesn't care if they are losing market share to $100 smartphones right now.
 
Assuming that China Mobile begins to feel the need to do business with Apple, the assumptions made in the article may come true. Then again, they may not. It all depends on real demand for an iPhone in China. Thus far, the needle hasn't moved in that direction. China Mobile isn't bending over backwards to give Tim Cook the kind of carrier deal that he wants.Apple needs China Mobile more than China Mobile needs Apple.
 
Clearly you don't leave your suburban bubble if you think the "urban youth" these days don't carry around iphones.

Sorry, I'm a big city urban city dweller - another data point that you don't know what you are talking about.

Urban youth are not necessary low income. Some may not make much but their disposable income is high as they don't have kids, a mortgage. Big difference. I see them around - some with Audi keys too.
 
Sorry, I'm a big city urban city dweller - another data point that you don't know what you are talking about.

Urban youth are not necessary low income. Some may not make much but their disposable income is high as they don't have kids, a mortgage. Big difference. I see them around - some with Audi keys too.

So you are saying someone who makes minimum wage a year at McD's can qualify for a loan on BMW. Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

The matter of the fact is iphones can be purchased by ANYONE. There is no "elite" status with a phone. Now you may think so, but when I see fast food workers bust out their iphone, sorry. No.

I saw a panhandler on his iphone today downtown, LOL.

Trying to talk common sense to you seems to be impossible.

You can't compare the two at all.
 
Choice has nothing to do with being elite. The iPhone is not an elite product. You don't pick up elite products at Walmart.
Since you can purchase pretty much every "flagship"smart phone and tablet on the market at a Wal-Mart, what would you consider an elite smartphone (cause I guarantee Wal-Mart sells it)?
You have to ask yourself. Does the iPhone 5C "deserve to exist"?
Why do we need to ask ourselves that?
 
Since you can purchase pretty much every "flagship"smart phone and tablet on the market at a Wal-Mart, what would you consider an elite smartphone (cause I guarantee Wal-Mart sells it)?

Why do we need to ask ourselves that?

Vertu.

Other then ultra-luxury brands there's no phone that's too expensive for the casual consumer. There's only so many things you can do with a thing that SMALL to justify high prices... besides the gaudy materials (eg GOLD / diamond plating).
 
I remember when people wanted smaller phones, because the phones back then were so huge and heavy and wouldn't fit in pockets. Every time I see somebody with one of those monster samsung phones, I think of this:

They wanted smaller phones at a time when even texting was in its infancy. Of course the trend continued a bit longer, but you didn't see that desire so much with early phones that could access the internet (treo comes to mind). Even the original iphone was bigger than some of those that nokia put out years earlier. It's always going to be a balance. With the (late 80s?) example you posted, the size didn't contribute anything other than a way to house bulky components.
 
The thing that will secure Apple's place in China is the iPhone 5C supporting China Mobile's TD-SCDMA and TD-LTE digital cellular standards. And it appears that the iPhone 5C is compatible with both.
 
Apple don't get it...

There's 2 important reasons (other than price) that people here in China often tell me as to why they don't want an iPhone.

1) It's ugly, it looks like a brick
2) The screen is too narrow

The screen just is the wrong size in most Chinese peoples eyes (and in mine).

And there's an alternative, the cheaper, often better looking, and multiple size options of Samsung phones.

Apple put all their phone eggs in one basket, and it's a basket people don't want...

It's a pity, I'd rather see something a bit bigger, oh, and with an SD-card slot
 
Apple don't get it...

There's 2 important reasons (other than price) that people here in China often tell me as to why they don't want an iPhone.

1) It's ugly, it looks like a brick
2) The screen is too narrow

The screen just is the wrong size in most Chinese peoples eyes (and in mine).

And there's an alternative, the cheaper, often better looking, and multiple size options of Samsung phones.

Apple put all their phone eggs in one basket, and it's a basket people don't want...

It's a pity, I'd rather see something a bit bigger, oh, and with an SD-card slot

That actually made me laugh out loud. :D

You really think that you know what most of 1.3 billion people are thinking by talking to a few people. :p
 
I'm not a troll. I've been using apple products for 12 years. I love apple and every product it's made. All I'm saying is that when Apple makes a product, it's made because it's meant to be a great quality/premium product for the consumer. Its made with unique great quality design, engineering and precision. It's made to enrich peoples loves. This iPhone 5C seems that it's just being made for the sole purpose of increasing market share for Apple. Last time I checked, Apple doesn't care about things like market share, they care about making world class products.

5C will be a quality phone, still better then majority of the market... the plastic has some scratch resistant coating and it has iphone 5 specs, which matches today's top end android phones in just about everything (camera,browser speed, speed of phone, etc)

its not really typical of Apple to do something like that but, they need this market share and this would be a boom for iOS... they are still putting out a high quality product imo.
 
I am more interested to see the specs of Iphone 5C and its price.

As mentioned in the above article, if the price is any where between 450$-500$. does it consider as cheaper category, May be in apple terminology
 
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