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Stop children! No more bickering.

1) Yes, the iPhone 4 did lose more signal when held in a certain way than the average cell phone.
2) No it was not stupid of Apple to move the antenna outside the phone. This actually gave better reception with lower power due to the lower interference (as long as you had a cover on it or avoided bridging the antenna gap).

So for the 95% would use covers or who were smart enough to not bridge the gap they got Better coverage. And the 5% who didn't figure it out, they got slightly lower coverage.

Can we just let this go after 3 years?

I think the fact that Apple had done "testing" on the iphone 4 and never saw this problem was bull. They probably just did not want to redesign the phone and hoped that no one would notice. And they had the nerves to call it a "software" problem the first time it was made public knowledge. I'm just hoping nothing like this happens in the future from Apple or they will lose my respect.
 
Let me explain a little reading comprehension to ya. He wasn't questioning the marketing behind making the 5C, he was asking why there isn't the same color offering for the 5S. He says there might be people who buy the 5C instead of the S, because they want a particular color.

Ahh... an even SIMPLER question..! No problem, I feel patient tonight.

You see.. an inexpensive phone (like iPhone 4, for example) typically comes in one config (example: 8gb). So, if it comes in six colors, that's 6 SKU's for carriers to stock. iPhone 5 comes in two colors & three sizes, totaling six SKU's for carriers to stock... If the 5S came in the six 5C colors, plus white & gold... that would be twenty-four models for carriers to stock! Thirty-two if they decide to add a 128gb option. Stores pay full price ($650-$850 a pop) for these & try to keep all models in stock. Most carrier stores are 3rd party, NOT corporate stores. That kind of cash outlay is COMPLETELY infeasible & sounds like an inventory disaster. If any other questions plague you, please ask away.
 
Still prefer the back of the iPhone 4S to the iPhone 5. And the new plastic phones could look okay however if they want them in colors match the front to the back. Having an orange back and a black front feels half banked.
 
Re iphone 5C colours

Yuck! Apple what where you thinking when you came with this dull colours , red is not like a deep red more like a corral red ,blue , oh god ! what kind of blue is that , green , they are all so washed out , how hard would have been to have some nice metaliccolours , if you decided to come out with colours ,a couple of cents more ?
And no ! i am not a troll , i just hate those dull colours , and i have a feeling that i am not the only one , good at least that they keep the black and white plastic .
 
The white cover is still the best looking one, I'm sure it will be Apple's best seller.

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The white cover is still the best looking one, I'm sure it will be Apple's best seller.

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Think Apple is the only one that can get away with white electronics. The colored ones have the issue of the front not matching and the black or white would be the best for blending the colors.

Yuck! Apple what where you thinking when you came with this dull colours , red is not like a deep red more like a corral red ,blue , oh god ! what kind of blue is that , green , they are all so washed out , how hard would have been to have some nice metaliccolours , if you decided to come out with colours ,a couple of cents more ?
And no ! i am not a troll , i just hate those dull colours , and i have a feeling that i am not the only one , good at least that they keep the black and white plastic .

The colors are questionable and dull. Personally red should be read and yellow, blue, green etc.. darker and or brighter tones. And of course the front will not match making it look half banked. The iPhone 4s still looks better than this or any of the iPhone 5's.
 
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No matter what you think of the cheap plastic phone, at least Apple has something new here. Without this phone Apple wouldn't have much to talk about. By all indications the 5S will be more of the same.
 
Am I the only one that is more concerned about the headline of the newspaper at the background?
Seems like they are talking about some 11 year old rich girl running from home and got drunk with a picture of a guy having his face masked talking to a microphone on the bottom right corner...

What is going on there in Taiwan...:eek:



That's the thing.

The source of this article is Apple News. That's a rumor and gossip and sensationalist journalism that caters to the gossipy housewives or the unemployed. Pretty much, for those who have nothing better to do than to gossip and hungry for Jerry Springer-like news.

You won't find that newspaper in any airlines, hotels, or fast speed rails. You'll find that newspaper in salons, beauty parlors, places where you sit and drink coffee, etc. No reputable person would be caught dead reading that newspaper.

The 5C blue color should offset any credibility of the news.

I think what is happening is someone from someone brought over Apple 5S and 5C samples which may or may not be fake. Apple NEWS takes the product and does tests. Whether true or false, they got their story, got their little 15 minutes of fame, and probably a bunch of newspapers sold.

Macrumors specifically states the source. Apple News won't/can't.

In any case, I don't think the 11 year old headline thingy is true either. Probably something to use against the guy in the picture as a way to ruin his reputation.
 
Come on, the posts were not "OMG Samesung uses plastic", they were "Samsuck uses cheap plastic", pay attention, the emphasis is on the fact that the plastics chosen by Samsuck are the cheap types -- looks cheap and feels cheap in hands.

It's how you use the plastic as well as the type of plastic. Samsung uses cheap plastic that creaks and looks and feels slimy. This doesn't look like it will have either of those issues. Also simply saying that plastic is more durable is way too simple. Finally if I am buying a premium top of the line smartphone, which the S 4 is supposed to be, i don't want cheap, slimy, creaky plastic body. Or the awful Touchwiz or the garish, pixelated, blurry when scrolling screen that is practically unreadable outside.
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you guys seem to be reading the same anti-samsung talking points. can you elaborate on what kind of 'cheap plastic' we're talking about? as far as i know, all recent phones (probably including the iphoneC) are using a very good grade of poly-carbonate. samsung's choice to have a thin, removable back panel is where the flex comes from - good choice or bad, they're flying off the shelves.
 
I know what you mean... some Apple products do look a lot better in person. I certainly hope the 5C is one such example!

I'm hopeful. I'll be getting a 5S anyway so not that it will effect me much, but I do hope the 5C is a big hit.

I'm just dreading the Android fanboy's '5Cheap' comments that will flood forums.
 
I'm hopeful. I'll be getting a 5S anyway so not that it will effect me much, but I do hope the 5C is a big hit.

I'm just dreading the Android fanboy's '5Cheap' comments that will flood forums.
no need to wait for that, haha, there's plenty of apple fans yelling 'cheap!' already.
 
Uh, that Samsung's clone of iPhone 1st edition. But, how could you endure that, the Android at that time was not usable at all.

who said i was using android phones? (the GS2 was my first android phone)
who said the android phones were a clone of the iphone?
what proof do you have that the current iphones (and iOS7) hasn't copied from samsung?
if android was pathetic at that time(at that crucial time) it wouldn't have been this successful

i mean, do we really need this android vs. iphone(iOS) war, android phones have their own advantages and the iphone has it's own.
 
this wasn't a "leak" this video was especially made and the especially "leaked, by apple" to create hype and to impress people. nice try apple but i'm still not buying it:rolleyes:....
 
who said i was using android phones? (the GS2 was my first android phone)
who said the android phones were a clone of the iphone?
what proof do you have that the current iphones (and iOS7) hasn't copied from samsung?
if android was pathetic at that time(at that crucial time) it wouldn't have been this successful

i mean, do we really need this android vs. iphone(iOS) war, android phones have their own advantages and the iphone has it's own.

Said nothing about Android phones were clones of iPhones, but the early Samsung Androids were fully clone, hair to toe, of whatever previous edition of iPhones were. Go check the pictures of the iPhones and phones from Samsung from 2007 to 2010, not just the outer look and feel, but also the GUI (graphical user interface).

It's a pure fact that the Android OS at 2007 and 2008 timeframe was very unusable, comparing with iOS at the same time. That's one major Android wasn't successful at that time, though it always has the price advantage over iOS devices.

I never refuse the fact that iOS 5 to iOS 7 copied a lot of ideas from Androids, but that doesn't reverse the fact that early Android versions copied a lot from iOS. In fact, Android's birth was TOTALLY a pirate of iOS, if we have to deviate to this topic.
 
rubbish. both are modern smartphones using plastic, both made by the same company. in one case you didnt have a problem w/ it, in another you do. there is no logical reason for that, other than, "Because, plastic."

2008 is not 2013. Pretty simple logic.
 
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