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really...did the 3G/S cheapen the brand? the colored ipod minis?

or is just cheap now because you have a metal one? oooohhh....

Simple really with these kinds....Steve Jobs plastic = not cheap. Tim Cook plastic = cheap.
 
not at all -- there was no flaw. despite hang-wringing by the tech blogs, the dropped call data showed there was no issue. youtube videos showed there was no issue (all phones lose bars when cupped tightly). the free bumpers were an inexpensive PR move. watch the press announcement and review the data.

then just try it yourself -- find an iphone4 and make a call. it works flawlessly.

I didn't have the issue either. Judging from the anger from the people disputing you, they probably did have a problem but because of where they use the phone or maybe there was something wrong with their phone. Because of that bad experience, I noticed whenever someone disputes the issue, they get all bothered about it. It is really a hot button for people.
 
I think the problem is the colors, not that they're plastic. :/

I think only the white one looks acceptable, but it's hard to tell from the lighting and what's false rumors or not. I hope they'll at least offer a black 5C. Otherwise, how about a wine red, or light yellow / cream, or a very pale, icy blue? These are looking so toy like.

Well I can't argue with you about the colors, I would prefer more bold colors.

Apple tends to disagree...

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How do you know that the 5C will have a horrible profit margin as compared to the 5S? Cheaper materials, maybe easier to manufacture, maybe the 5C will be MORE profitable for Apple.

The 5C WILL be more profitable for Apple, and probably one of the best moves they have ever done.
 
Caze makes a nice one - 0.5mm - I don't own it, but have seen it - very, very thin.

There are others but they all scratch so easily that they look like garbage in a few months. I'll check it out.

I'd really like something like the Incipio NGP case in a crystal clear version.
 
Just a common work conversation among two young tech enthuisiasts. Not the geek to geek convo your question made it out to be big guy...;) (not that it matters)

Sounds more nerdy than geeky :D

I guess I'm way outside of the world where people competitively compare their personal electronics (even though I'm highly engaged in the technical industry), just never had anyone say "Oh look, my cheap personal electronic device is better than your cheap personal electronic device". Anyway, having spent some extensive time, recently, again, with Android (Nexus products), I still far prefer Apple devices.

YMMV. :)

Signed,

The Big Guy :D
 
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Throwing people off the scent...?

I hope the large number of leaks of the 5C is somewhat intentional, and an attempt to keep the focus on that phone, so a new iPhone 5S with a larger screen, or possibly an iPhone 6 with a larger screen (in addition to a 4-inch 5S?), is a big surprise when announced in September. 3 new phones would be phenomenal!

Like I said, hoping... But not holding my breath...
 
I honestly think most people don't mind plastic; it's just the posters who have taken such a hardline "OMG Samesung uses plastic lolllllllllllllllllllll" stance that convincing them that there are benefits, which include reduced cost and increased durability, is virtually impossible.

It's how you use the plastic as well as the type of plastic. Samsung uses cheap plastic that creaks and looks and feels slimy. This doesn't look like it will have either of those issues. Also simply saying that plastic is more durable is way too simple. Finally if I am buying a premium top of the line smartphone, which the S 4 is supposed to be, i don't want cheap, slimy, creaky plastic body. Or the awful Touchwiz or the garish, pixelated, blurry when scrolling screen that is practically unreadable outside.
As to iPhone 5 durability I have had an iPhone 5 since launch day that has never been in a case and it looks just fine.

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how so? i wouldn't mind a more affordable iphone.. just wish it didn't look like a fisher price toy

I would wait to pass judgement until you see the actual phone instead of rumor. I think a lot of people like colorful phones. I prefer black and understated but am aware that there are other people in the world who might not like the same things as me.

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AppleFanSite has published some of the first high quality pictures an a video of the Black iPhone 5C

http://www.applefansite.com/2013/08/black-iphone-5c/

No. Back shell just over everything else we have been seeing for months.
 
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