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iPhone 5s and 5c Account for 5.5% of Active iPhones Worldwide
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Sorry, I probably misspoke. I didn't mean "bubble" in the same way people did when they spoke of, say, the housing bubble that burst not too long ago. I meant it in more of a way that many people will "grow up" so to speak, and realize that none of these petty gimmicks really matter to them (this is not to say that people who continue to enjoy those gimmicks are immature or anything!)
I'm excited to see more of Ubuntu Mobile (even though I'm not really a big fan of Linux. Used Ubuntu on my PC but I really had no need for it.) I heard FFOS kind of sucked, but that might've just been more the cheap phone I read a review on. If you have time, I would love to hear more about it!
I want to see Windows Phone succeed. I'm pretty hard on Microsoft since becoming an Apple convert, but Windows Phone 8 always impressed me as a mobile OS. Maybe now that Ballmer's out, they can get somebody in charge who actually understands the current industry and will stop dismissing great ideas (I'm still mourning the Courier. That could've killed the iPad before the iPad even existed.)
Rather than having two very large dominant OS's competing, I hope it becomes more varied with these newcomers. More variation: more competition. Through competition, hopefully new ideas will spring up.
I really, really think that the most exciting time for smartphones is upon us.
You're right, it really is! I just hope the competition can hold up. Microsoft can afford to stay afloat out of sheer stubbornness and willpower if they need to (see: The first Xbox.
) and partnering with Nokia was a great move. But as for the others, they can't just phone this one in. There will need to be a flagship smartphone for the new OS's, like we had with the iPhone and the T-Mobile G1 (which I originally owned. It was... okay, but still held its own as a solid iPhone alternative.) And they need to advertise the heck out of it.----------
I love how they call the 1.6%, OTHER. The only thing left is the 3g and 3gs and the original. But lets call them other.
Um, what's the problem with that? Those are three different models, encompassing 1.6% of ownership. Why wouldn't they call it "other?" Should they instead make tiny little pie slices for each of those models, even though all three of them are obsolete and don't matter on an individual level in this study?
Being sarcastic just for the sake of being sarcastic is not a suitable replacement for wit.
That's amazing after six years! I would have thought it could barely hold a charge.
I attended the Future of Web Apps in London last week and got to have a shot of the dev devices they had there for a "hackathon". While it doesn't feel finished by any stretch, it was very smooth and responsive, and the UI was pretty nice in some areas. Still a long way to go, give it a year and it will be on store shelves. Mozilla are apparently keeping careful control of app distribution and signing, so hopefully it won't turn into another Android mess.
I think (technically) it has already succeeded. The OS is good, and it works very well. The only thing is, there's no developer adoption, and consumers know this. You can't get the best apps like you can on iOS. The irony is, developers won't support it because there's not a significant user base. Until Microsoft does something to entice developers, users won't come. (Although, its market share is going up in some markets year-on-year.)
My opinion is that WP8 is 10x better than Android, and stronger in some areas than iOS. It's a very robust, refined and "fresh" experience. I would have had one, had there been more dev support.
And to hell with Windows desktop, that's a joke and you're right, Ballmer had to go.
I just find it funny that according to the graph the [now discontinued] iPhone 5 accounts as the highest percentage of active iPhones. I bet Apple now wishes they would have kept the iPhone 5 around and just reduced it in price, since the sales statistics for the 5C are not looking so hot.
If I activated cellular data it can hold charge up to 5PM without a hitch with normal usage. Using Wi-Fi and that drops to half a day of charge.
Exactly!!
Exactly. I get so tired of hearing people drone on and on about "innovation". Just what more do you expect them to do? Look how long desktop computers have been around, or laptops. Do you really see any innovation going on anymore? They are essentially the same as they were several years ago. Some are a little thinner / lighter. And they have faster processors, etc. But all that isn't really innovation. It is just incremental progress that occurs with any product that sells enough to warrant it. People need to understand that there is not going to be any great "innovation" in smartphones from Apple or Samsung or anyone else. There will be steady improvements to hardware. Batteries will get better, power consumption will get better, speed will improve, screens will get sharper, etc., but there is not going to be some great change that will make any one phone that much better. The biggest potential for significant change is probably in the battery / power arena. If someone comes up with a radically new battery chemistry or screen/processor combo that drastically increases battery life, that would be fairly significant. But then again, as long as a phone lasts all day it is not that hard to charge every night.
Exactly. I get so tired of hearing people drone on and on about "innovation". Just what more do you expect them to do? Look how long desktop computers have been around, or laptops. Do you really see any innovation going on anymore? They are essentially the same as they were several years ago. Some are a little thinner / lighter. And they have faster processors, etc. But all that isn't really innovation. It is just incremental progress that occurs with any product that sells enough to warrant it. People need to understand that there is not going to be any great "innovation" in smartphones from Apple or Samsung or anyone else. There will be steady improvements to hardware. Batteries will get better, power consumption will get better, speed will improve, screens will get sharper, etc., but there is not going to be some great change that will make any one phone that much better. The biggest potential for significant change is probably in the battery / power arena. If someone comes up with a radically new battery chemistry or screen/processor combo that drastically increases battery life, that would be fairly significant. But then again, as long as a phone lasts all day it is not that hard to charge every night.
Bad news, it already has:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/lg-fireweb/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/03/zte-open-review/ (This one is the phone I mentioned earlier.)
That's not to say it's too late, of course!
Just that there needs to be an "official" manufacturer, or at least a ringleader of sorts (like Samsung's Galaxy line.) Maybe LG will step up to the plate this time around, they're normally pretty decent.That's not a good sign. I'm not a big Web App fan, although I have seen (through some of my home screen bookmarks, which are basically apps in their own right!) some fantastic results with them. But building an OS around them? Chrome OS is still chugging along gradually.
But that's not to say either Chrome or Firefox OS should call it quits. I'd love to see the web app OS's put out something decent. The problem is, in my view, it seems like both products are selling themselves short. They seem to be marketed as ideal software for less-powerful, budget devices. (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.) That's not going to get a significant enough chunk of marketshare, I don't think.
But I hope I'm wrong about all of this! I'd love to see FFOS become successful, not just succeed at whatever low bar was set for it.
So you mean to tell me that this, too, is Microsoft's fault? Big surprise there!
I could see how that would be accurate. It looks like it was designed to "run the way it looks," much like iOS does. You tap on a tile, another menu scrolls into view (doesn't it? It's been a while since I played with WP8.)
Android just seems bloated, and many phones just can't seem to handle it. I'm sure some of the higher end Android phones work great nowadays, but whenever I go to a carrier store and look through the Android demos, I still find myself looking for the phone with the least amount of home screen lag. There's no reason for that.
Here's the best way to sum up Ballmer's attitude towards computers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sforhbLiwLA
He hasn't changed much at all over the years (and he's aged pretty well, I might add! Poor Bill looks like my grandpa now.) When the first iPhone came out, he went on and on about how people want to type email with a physical keyboard, and now nobody's going to get any work done on an iPhone.
Work.
And now with the new iWork suite out, MS is pushing this whole "Our office suite is better" angle, because that's actually their area of expertise. Even the commercials for the Surface (not the ones mocking Siri) depict businesspeople breakdancing in their conference room while editing spreadsheets.
And if they want to be the company that caters to corporate/business users, that's fine. But don't act like you're competing with a primarily-consumer company like Apple if your idea of "hip" is guys in suits and funky hair totally balancing their budget in, like, the RADDEST WAY POSSIBLE. People still say "rad," right? Ballmer?
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It got to the point where the word "innovation" was synonymous with "a bigger screen." Anytime I'd hear somebody complain about how Apple doesn't innovate anymore, and I ask what they mean by that, 4/5 times I'd hear "WELL, THEY WON'T EVEN MAKE A BIGGER SCREEN!!"
I would love a bigger screen, personally. But that's not really innovation. And then people nitpick about how Apple technically hasn't "invented" anything. Nobody's claiming they have, it's just when they do produce something, they usually do it right. Usually.
But yeah, you're spot on. Computers and phones aren't going to be "innovative" like they used to be, at least, not until technology advances a bit more and becomes more affordable. Stuff gets thinner, dimensions change, performance increases, battery life improves (marginally...)
I don't need Apple browsing through Skymall for ideas on what to put in their new phone.
Unless the iPhone 6 can toast hot dogs for me, or something. I would be ALL OVER THAT.
That's what you're taking away from this? The 5 has had a whole year to get those numbers. You really think the 5C is a flop because of that??
MOST sales for the 5C would've been for the 5 otherwise. Considering the 5C is cheaper to make and fetches a larger profit margin, I see no reason Tim Cook should be kicking himself for this.
I suspect many of the 5C nay-sayers haven't actually had it in their hand. It's a gorgeous little phone that has fun and carefree written all over it, and it's perfect for those not needing or wanting the latest advancements, and a good upgrade for those owning pre-iPhone5 models. Space grey, and a few darker colors would have been nice though.
ME (Ok, playing devil's advocate...)
The 5c won't gain them any new market segments and Apple will keep growing less rapidly than the overall smartphone market. Market share will continue to erode, especially where consumers move away from the subsidized model (Android is already at 70% in some major EU markets!).
Looks like a potential fiasco down the road to me
ME (Ok, playing devil's advocate...)
The 5c won't gain them any new market segments and Apple will keep growing less rapidly than the overall smartphone market. Market share will continue to erode, especially where consumers move away from the subsidized model (Android is already at 70% in some major EU markets!).
Looks like a potential fiasco down the road to me
"Android" in not a single phone model, but a crowd of mostly trashy smartphones ...
Nothing comparable to iphone 5c and 5s. And Apple is playing with extremely large profits as usual.
Correct. But I cannot see this invalidating the market share issue they are knowingly running into. Currently the iOS Appstore does stand out. What when this will be no longer the case?
Apple is about profit, not market share.
There is not a single Android model selling like an iphone 5s or an iphone 5c.
I can't see any problem or any fiasco in Apple's strategy.
I wonder how long it will take for the iPhone 5S to get up to the 30-40% marketshare. It would be higher right now if it weren't for low inventory. Most places around me don't have any 5S's in stock in any color, size, or carrier. And if they do it is only one color, in one size, for one carrier.