Yes, but thats just artificial growth. I think there are two different issues at play here and we are trying to argue about different ones. There is the issue of how many iPhones Apple can produce on opening weekend and how many iPhones Apple can sell. So yes, selling 9 million iPhones in one weekend is quite an accomplishment purely based on the fact that it means they had to make 9 million phones prior to launch. The number of countries does not matter a launch because they will sell every phone they make. I am sure if they made 15 million phones, they might of sold 15 million iPhones. The argument I am making is that by simply adding China, they will artificially increase the demand by a huge number. This, I believe will mean they can produce more phones for launch and still achieve the same constrained issues they experience every year. Lets face it, Apple every year has limited supply of iPhones. Why is that? because Apple wants people camping out for their new phone, they want to add as much hype as they can to the launch day. They may have only sold 5 million last year because if they ended up producing more than 5 million, they would not of had a shortage problem that has become such a huge marketing push for apple. So the number of phones Apple makes for launch is based on how many phones their suppliers can actually make AND how many phones Apple wants to make to achieve the "constrained launch day" problem. Just my two cents
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iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c Sales Top Nine Million in Launch Weekend
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Yes, but thats just artificial growth. I think there are two different issues at play here and we are trying to argue about different ones. There is the issue of how many iPhones Apple can produce on opening weekend and how many iPhones Apple can sell. So yes, selling 9 million iPhones in one weekend is quite an accomplishment purely based on the fact that it means they had to make 9 million phones prior to launch. The number of countries does not matter a launch because they will sell every phone they make. I am sure if they made 15 million phones, they might of sold 15 million iPhones. The argument I am making is that by simply adding China, they will artificially increase the demand by a huge number. This, I believe will mean they can produce more phones for launch and still achieve the same constrained issues they experience every year. Lets face it, Apple every year has limited supply of iPhones. Why is that? because Apple wants people camping out for their new phone, they want to add as much hype as they can to the launch day. They may have only sold 5 million last year because if they ended up producing more than 5 million, they would not of had a shortage problem that has become such a huge marketing push for apple. So the number of phones Apple makes for launch is based on how many phones their suppliers can actually make AND how many phones Apple wants to make to achieve the "constrained launch day" problem. Just my two cents
Perhaps, perhaps not, but certainly not today [with 9 million iPhone sales in one weekend].
30 million +
I'm sure apple has some agreement with Samsung not to introduce a lager iPhone for a certain amount of years.
And if they would be able to produce enough and launch it in all the countries it would have been the most epic sales number in history. But...no
what on earth are you complaining about? they can't make these things out of thin air you know. producing 9 million while keeping it as secret as possible takes time.
it WAS the most epic sales number in mobile history.
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Honestly, the nine million is staggering to me considering the 5S is the same form factor as the 5. It also surprises me as you see more and more people giving Apple products a hard time, people love to take verbal jabs at Apple users it seems.
Nevertheless, I think it's great for Apple. Tremendous number!
Nevertheless, I think it's great for Apple. Tremendous number!
I highly doubt it. Such an agreement would violate the antitrust laws. Nor do I think the masses want a phone that won't fit in their pocket despite what Samsung marketing tells them.
9 million phones sold in 3 days and people still think Apple is purposely constraining supply.
is it? Mac has very little market share, yet apples Mac business is the most profitable in the PC industry. let that sink in: apple makes more in Mac sales than any other PC maker. that's winning.
5c
Dear Fanboys & Girls,
My last post here was in 2004! Now I'm a bit older and have 13 & 16 year old Fangirls in my house. I bring this up to maybe help you see something you all might be missing. I had the iPhone 5 which I just upgraded to the 64Gb 5s (yes, this Fanman stood in line) and my wife, promptly had her 4 upgraded to my old 5. I promised my 16 year old the 5s for her birthday but all the AT&T store had was the black. She said she would rather wait for the white than have the black on day one so I ordered the white for her to replace her 4s. (I had three of four phones available for upgrade).
Here is the interesting part. I offered to also get my 13 year old the 5s to which she said, absolutely not! She wants the pink 5c, and nothing else will do! That same day, my neighbor came over and sure enough, he is getting his two kids the 5c. My point is, the 5c for many middle school and high school kids isn't just a low cost option, it is a fashion statement. While we may not have the break down of 5s vs 5c, I predict that sales of the 5c will blow up during the Christmas season.
Dear Fanboys & Girls,
My last post here was in 2004! Now I'm a bit older and have 13 & 16 year old Fangirls in my house. I bring this up to maybe help you see something you all might be missing. I had the iPhone 5 which I just upgraded to the 64Gb 5s (yes, this Fanman stood in line) and my wife, promptly had her 4 upgraded to my old 5. I promised my 16 year old the 5s for her birthday but all the AT&T store had was the black. She said she would rather wait for the white than have the black on day one so I ordered the white for her to replace her 4s. (I had three of four phones available for upgrade).
Here is the interesting part. I offered to also get my 13 year old the 5s to which she said, absolutely not! She wants the pink 5c, and nothing else will do! That same day, my neighbor came over and sure enough, he is getting his two kids the 5c. My point is, the 5c for many middle school and high school kids isn't just a low cost option, it is a fashion statement. While we may not have the break down of 5s vs 5c, I predict that sales of the 5c will blow up during the Christmas season.
For someone saying a whole of stuff, I'm amazed (truly) that you're not backing any of that up with any type of link.
you have no idea what you're talking about.
the phones don't come out of thin air, and they made 9 million of them. that takes time and effort. it was a record sales weekend unseen by anyone else in the industry. a definitive success.
to believe otherwise may be a sign of mental illness.
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Figures like that mean only one thing to me: Yet another 1-2 years without a bigger-screened iPhone.
*Sigh*
*Sigh*
Last year they launch in about the same countries, except for China. China sales at launch were 2 millions. So we are at 7 millions vs 9 millions....
**BUT** there was no supply shortage on the China launch and the iphone 5s sold out much quicker than the iphone 5 did on launch weekend. Also, the 5c sales have higher margins than last year 4s sales.
Here's what it means to me. A small screen is not that big a deal to iPhone buyers. To the ones that it is a big deal to, they switch to android.
This. I know of no working professional (out of probably 400 lawyers/doctors/CPAs) with a large screen phone. Why? They don't fit in your pocket and I'm not writing documents on my phone. I have an iPad, a laptop, and a desktop for that.
And these people are important for market share. Many of them stood in line or are awaiting UPS...whether eligible for an upgrade or not. Not to mention normal people...my mom would laugh if I told her to carry a large-screen iPhone. She's not sure why she needs the larger screen on my iPhone 5 that she is inheriting.
I'm complaining because I can't get a 5s until December...like so many others. Right now only phone apple sell in MOST countries are the 4s...which is quite funny actually.. And the sales numbers would have been much higher if they would have been able to launch it worldwide.
And produce that many while keeping it a secret. What was kept a secret? I don't think there's a single thing we didn't know before release.
Artificially?
Huh?
Nothing artificial about selling 2 million phones in China at launch.
Nothing artificial about selling 9 million in one weekend.
Not sure how you can downplay it.
At minimum it shows there’s a huge demand for the phone at launch.
Next year they might add the Ukraine at launch. Or Hong Kong or the Philippians. So what?
If they get 11m phones ordered it’s still an increase.