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You can pair the lens to the iPhone via Wi-Fi too - no NFC needed.

That's only an example (and I am not sure about you said cause these lens are not available yet)

Why Apple not use NFC? Passbook are the answer? Passbook are not the answer for all, and many NFC stuff will come

Regards
 
But how many people are really going to use burst mode? Can't say it was a highly requested feature before...

It's good to have. No wonder there're some action (burst) shooters in the AppStore, the best being SnappyCam (I'll too publish a full roundup of them).

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Why Apple not use NFC? Passbook are the answer? Passbook are not the answer for all, and many NFC stuff will come

Because - as has been pointed out by a million times - they're lagging behind the competition in this regard too.
 
But how many people are really going to use burst mode? Can't say it was a highly requested feature before... I mean I'm sure the iPhone 5s is great but they need to add new features to the s series and a new design with the whole numbered series. There used to be a time when a lot of their sales came from people updating their 1 year old iPhone because there was a big enough incentive.

Just saying Apple did a pretty bad job...
Just saying Apple did a hell of a job, doubling the speed of their already fast phones in just one year. Its developers who need to make use of all this computing power and answer the age-old question: Can it run Crysis?

Make it happen! The seventh generation of gaming consoles lasted from 2005 until now. Seven plus years without any progress in hardware. A 64-bit iPad mini with a bluetooth controller interface has the potential to destroy the console market for more than casual games.
 
Just saying Apple did a hell of a job, doubling the speed of their already fast phones in just one year. Its developers who need to make use of all this computing power and answer the age-old question: Can it run Crysis?

Make it happen! The seventh generation of gaming consoles lasted from 2005 until now. Seven plus years without any progress in hardware. A 64-bit iPad mini with a bluetooth controller interface has the potential to destroy the console market for more than casual games.

until your ipad runs out of juice after just 3hours of playing
 
I skim read your post, could see it was a bit silly so didn't pay much attention to it, sorry. If you want to elicit a sensible reply and want me and others to read your posts, you should refrain from comments like " enjoy your toy and your friends twerking to justin beiber", it just means that your posts will be ignored, it's a waste of your time. Happy to chat, but the first sign of infantility then I stop reading and just move onto the next post :)

Why bother replying at all then? If you just skim it and reply? Like you have to prove your point, but not with any real effort? I'm being serious now, don't be such a, really, if you can't even read something don't respond to it. It just invalidates anything you say as you obviously just shoot from the hip on everything you say then. Have fun at the club!

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Okay old timer, lets see you support this statement.



So, maybe the implication is there, and your statement above doesn't account for it?



So you NEVER want a picture if you don't plan it? You NEVER want to take a picture if you don't have your DSLR with you. REALLY? I've heard photographers the world over utter, "I wish'd I'd had A camera, ANY camera…"



If you are going to be insulting (whippersnapper) about not reading someones post, you look like an idiot for using the EXACT SAME LOGIC to jump to this conclusion. Their's was reasonable assumption, yours takes out the umption. They never said they wanted to catalog every moment of their life. I don't see anywhere they mentioned Justin Beiber, and you really need to dial it back if you want to be taken seriously…

Seriously go back and read what I wrote then it will make sense to you! You jump to, too many conclusions. I said in my post, that if a moment comes up and I want to take a picture I pull out my phone and take a pictures and wish I had my dslr. Again another whippersnapper who can't even read everything I won't bother replying to anything from you, because you can't be taken seriously either if you just want to call someone a troll when you haven't read it all. you should dial back trying to call me out when you're dead wrong in the first two quotes. Have a good day.
 
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I must say that it's really hard to get excited about phones nowadays.
It's like a TV. It's bigger and the screen is slightly better, but it's still to much of a TV. Give me something revolutionary
 
I'm glad to see them keep the megapixels the same as they try and improve the quality of photos. f/2.2, bigger pixels and a color adjusting flash should make a lot of pictures much better.

Exactly. Anyone who thinks that megapixels alone will improve picture quality is a sucker for camera makers' ad copy. As if traditional camera makers were all that relevant outside the pro and prosumer markets any more.

Reminds me of a quote applied to fake cowboys: "Big hat, no cattle."
Same thing applies to many cameras: "Big megapixel count, crappy images."
 
Who cares about all of this? If I want to be shooting movies or putting together photo albums, I'll get a videocam or SLR.

This is a phone. It's a communication device. Where's HD voice? Improved speakers so I can hear speakers on the other end? What about improvements in antenna and reception? Speakerphone? WiFi hotspot ease of use?

How about wifi-calling across all wireless carriers? Where was additional presentation about ios7 improvements and how they work with the new iPhone. Any improvements in Mail, instant messaging, voicemail, anything at all that improves the iPhone as a communications device?

Presentation sucked, all I saw was junk about video games and dual flash for photos that no one cares about. Candy for people who like to waste time. This is a phone.

HD Voice was added in a previous update (if I recall correctly it was added for the 5). Its just up to the carrier to support it.
 
Also note that the high-speed video modes may be suffering from pixel binning. That is, the 720p120 mode may, in reality, only capture at half the resolution in both directions; that is, 640*360.

At least that's the case with the iPhone 5 running on iOS7 (see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1602171/ for some precise resolution measurements.)

All in all, the photo-related improvements are indeed minimal, even if you take the, compared to the iPhone 5, double-Megapixel panorama mode, the somewhat (not much - the difference is WAY smaller than, say, between 1/3" and 1/2.3" or 1/2.3" and 1/1.7") larger sensor and brighter lens into account:

- still no double capturing (which would HIGHLY be useful when you'd like to include the image of the person taking the shot in the final video / pic too), unlike in LG G2

- no OIS (see LG G2 and Lumia 1020 - or, if you're looking for something cheaper, the Lumia 92x or the HTC One)

- no stereo audio recording (at least they didn't mention this) - come on Apple, it's late 2013 and every single other flagship smartphome records audio in stereo while shooting video!

- still not any kind of manual modes, not even via third-party apps (via API calls) - come on Apple! Stock Android / WinPhone have been having some of these (WB / proper exposure compensation / ISO setting) since their inception

- still a not very wide lens (most other flagship smartphones have 28mm lens; the 5S still seems to have 33mm)

- no 1080p60 video recording (the LG G2 does support it); neither 4K recording (the Note 3 and another phone I can't recall the name of do support)


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I REALLY hope it's not pixel binned (see my above intro)...

While what you're saying is likely true, I doubt if more the 1% of iPhone buyers care much about any of your points of concern, or would even be aware of them at all. Apple is not after a niche 1% of the market. They are after the other 99%. They will happily allow you to buy any other phone that more closely fits your needs. ;)
 
While what you're saying is likely true, I doubt if more the 1% of iPhone buyers care much about any of your points of concern, or would even be aware of them at all. Apple is not after a niche 1% of the market. They are after the other 99%. They will happily allow you to buy any other phone that more closely fits your needs. ;)

Sure I know. It's just disappointing to see Apple cater for the technically, for the most part, illiterate masses while completely neglecting power users - that is, ones requiring as many features as possible.

This has happened on other product lines of them as well - for example, see the fate of the 17" MBP. (The one I'm just typing on and wouldn't sacrifice the screen estate & the dual spin drives for a smaller notebook.)
 
Most smartphones have always been pretty good at shooting video - actually, at times MUCH better than, say, even higher-end P&S cameras. (A comparison between the excellent P&S camera Nikon P300 and the iPhone 4 is HERE)

In addition, they're consistently better than large-sensor cameras moire / aliasing-wise (but, of course, not noise / DR-wise), which means there may be situations (good lighting without huge differences in exposure and on a tripod to avoid shake, should the phone not have OIS) where one may want to prefer shooting with a smartphone.

This is why for example I want cutting-edge, future-proof shooting modes NOW.

4k but still using a rolling shutter? That is future proof?
 
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4k but still using a rolling shutter? That is future proof?

Almost all, even pro-grade, video cameras still use rolling shutters. Very few cameras have global shutters.

Nevertheless, the adverse effects of rolling shutters aren't necessarily much more pronounced at 4K resolutions - it all depends on the readout speed of the sensor.
 
honestly the improved camera is only important to me for taking pictures of things on my job and facetime. I find it faster than scribbling model numbers/locations down. If I want to take real pictures or video I use a real camera.
And yes my Canon is in my messenger bag all the time.

Though I guess with the current popularity of photo and video social sites Apple felt they HAD to do all this.

It remains to be seen if this improves facetime or not.
 
Almost all, even pro-grade, video cameras still use rolling shutters. Very few cameras have global shutters.

Nevertheless, the adverse effects of rolling shutters aren't necessarily much more pronounced at 4K resolutions - it all depends on the readout speed of the sensor.

I think it would be more pronounced considering that 4K is generally going to be displayed on a much larger screen. The "jello" effect is already noticeable even on a small (<30") screen. The higher end cameras have a high enough readout speed such that it's visually indistinguishable from a global shutter in most cases. But you're not going to get that in a cell phone, at least not any time soon. What advantage is 4K going to give then?

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Speak for yourself.

Some people just thrive on being contrarian...


For example, people are blasting the "gold" color, but just wait 6 months for Samsung and HTC to introduce their gold models.
 
I went to design school with that guy. Great dude. I'm pretty sure he's an Art Director now at Apple.
 
That's only an example (and I am not sure about you said cause these lens are not available yet)

Why Apple not use NFC? Passbook are the answer? Passbook are not the answer for all, and many NFC stuff will come

Regards

Actually I have read articles indicating NFC is on its way out. While that Sony lens is not out yet - the adverts I have seen on it show it paired with an iPhone - so I don't think the lack of NFC is a limitation.
 
I love my iphone (and its camera) but not even close. Have you ever used a DSLR?

based on the technology (hardware & software), i don't think my comparison between 5s and a DSLR is such a huge reach. i don't mean they're on the same level because DSLRs have better hardware. but, do you think you'd be able to tell the difference between the 5s and DSLR still picture (framed to fit on screen) on a 20-in 1080p monitor?

also, one thing to note is that the 5s's slow-mo capabilities already surpass that of a DSLR.
 
based on the technology (hardware & software), i don't think my comparison between 5s and a DSLR is such a huge reach. i don't mean they're on the same level because DSLRs have better hardware. but, do you think you'd be able to tell the difference between the 5s and DSLR still picture (framed to fit on screen) on a 20-in 1080p monitor?

Depends on the photographer, the subject matter, and the time of day the photo was shot.

I think phones like the 5S and Lumia 1020 will eventually supplant point 'n shoot cameras, which can come pretty close to matching DSLRs for daytime photos. But there will always be scenarios where you absolutely need a DSLR to get the best shot. Low light photos, long exposures, anytime where you need extra control on focal length for DoF effects. I could go on...
 
Depends on the photographer, the subject matter, and the time of day the photo was shot.

I think phones like the 5S and Lumia 1020 will eventually supplant point 'n shoot cameras, which can come pretty close to matching DSLRs for daytime photos. But there will always be scenarios where you absolutely need a DSLR to get the best shot. Low light photos, long exposures, anytime where you need extra control on focal length for DoF effects. I could go on...

The camera "body" is only one part of the equation. Lenses are also uber important. And so is - you know - that crazy thing - skill.

The argument will be that the best camera is always the one you have. And for many - that will always be their phone. But that doesn't mean that the phone will always be the best camera. Just the best camera being used. There's a difference.
 
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