iPhone 5s Camera Improvements: Slo-Mo Mode, 'True Tone' Flash and Better Low-Light Performance

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple today announced its next-generation flagship phone, the iPhone 5s. As with all of Apple's iPhone updates, the iPhone 5s will come equipped with several impressive camera improvements, both hardware and software-based.

    While the iPhone 5s still uses an 8-megapixel camera, it utilizes a sensor that has a 15 percent larger surface area, which means it will produce higher quality photos in low-light conditions. It also has a 5-element lens with an aperture of f/2.2, an improvement over the iPhone 5's f/2.4 aperture and the pixels are larger, at 1.5 microns, for better light absorption. All in all, the iPhone 5s has a 33 percent increase in light sensitivity.
    Most smartphones, Apple's iPhone included, are known for having a notoriously bad flash that washes out pictures, but that is no longer the case with the iPhone 5s. The iPhone 5s uses a "True Tone" dual-LED flash that supports two different cool white/warm amber color temperatures for improved white balance and more than 1,000 different color temperatures. The phone's app captures exposure and creates what Apple calls a "dynamic local tone map" to create pictures that are properly hued.

    Autofocus has been improved as well, using 15-zone matrix metering for speedier focusing times, and software-based image stabilization has been built-in too. As with the iPhone 5, the iPhone 5s has a sapphire-crystal covered lens designed to withstand scratches and other damage.

    For capturing action shots, the iPhone 5s utilizes a new Burst Mode. This mode captures 10 photos per second, combines them to get an accurate light level, and then automatically chooses the best of the bunch.

    There's also a new "Slo-Mo" mode, designed to capture 720p video at up to 120 frames per second with 3x live video zoom. Slo-Mo video and regular video can be combined to create all new video effects. In Panorama mode, the iPhone 5s can capture 30 frames per second, which is a 50 percent improvement over the iPhone 5.

    The iPhone 5s will ship with iOS 7, which brings several camera improvements itself. iOS 7 includes eight Apple-designed live filters and a redesigned photos app that groups pictures based on time and location.

    Apple's iPhone 5s will be released on September 20, and iOS 7 will be available to the public on September 18. Apple also plans to release the iPhone 5c on September 20, with preorders beginning on September 13.

    Article Link: iPhone 5s Camera Improvements: Slo-Mo Mode, 'True Tone' Flash and Better Low-Light Performance
  2. pezj macrumors member


    Jun 10, 2012
  3. rhett7660 macrumors G4


    Jan 9, 2008
    Sunny, Southern California
    I am looking forward to the slow motion!!!!!!!
  4. Menneisyys2, Sep 10, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2013

    Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    Also note that the high-speed video modes may be suffering from pixel binning. That is, the 720p120 mode may, in reality, only capture at half the resolution in both directions; that is, 640*360.

    At least that's the case with the iPhone 5 running on iOS7 (see http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1602171 for some precise resolution measurements.)

    All in all, the photo-related improvements are indeed minimal, even if you take the, compared to the iPhone 5, double-Megapixel panorama mode, the somewhat (not much - the difference is WAY smaller than, say, between 1/3" and 1/2.3" or 1/2.3" and 1/1.7") larger sensor and brighter lens into account:

    - still no double capturing (which would HIGHLY be useful when you'd like to include the image of the person taking the shot in the final video / pic too), unlike in LG G2

    - no OIS (see LG G2 and Lumia 1020 - or, if you're looking for something cheaper, the Lumia 92x or the HTC One)

    - no stereo audio recording (at least they didn't mention this) - come on Apple, it's late 2013 and every single other flagship smartphome records audio in stereo while shooting video!

    - still not any kind of manual modes, not even via third-party apps (via API calls) - come on Apple! Stock Android / WinPhone have been having some of these (WB / proper exposure compensation / ISO setting) since their inception

    - still a not very wide lens (most other flagship smartphones have 28mm lens; the 5S still seems to have 33mm)

    - no 1080p60 video recording (the LG G2 does support it); neither 4K recording (the Note 3 and another phone I can't recall the name of do support)


    I REALLY hope it's not pixel binned (see my above intro)...
  5. supertonic, Sep 10, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2013
  6. ghettochris macrumors 6502a

    Feb 19, 2008
    I'm glad to see them keep the megapixels the same as they try and improve the quality of photos. f/2.2, bigger pixels and a color adjusting flash should make a lot of pictures much better.
  7. Radio macrumors 68000

    Mar 5, 2012
    Central California
  8. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    I'm pretty sure the S90 produces better images. After all, while it's a LOT older model, it still has a much-much larger sensor, RAW, manual modes etc. The latter two are completely missing from iOS and the sensor size is still around 1/3" (even after the 17% increase in size).
  9. abz1981 macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    Apart from the better camera and extra flash. What features of the camera app on iOS 7 will not feature on iPhone 5 which will feature on iPhone 5s ?
  10. HardRain macrumors regular

    Mar 31, 2012
    Results never seem to look as clear in real world use.
  11. Derekeys macrumors regular

    Sep 17, 2012
    Philadelphia, PA
    Bunch o' Haterz

    See this is where Apple shines. For all the hate I see in these forums Apple will continue to do very well because they release products that are consistent, appeal to the masses, and are reliable. I am underwhelmed by today as far as huge gimmicks go, but that's when I stop and realize I don't want gimmicks. I want to pick up my phone and have it shine in the categories of typical use. After having a 4s, GSIII, HTC One, and now iPhone 5 I am "educatedly" convinced Apple makes the best phone and will continue to do so.

    Keep it up Apple, way to not try releasing crap like Galaxy Gear just cause the market clamors for useless devices.


    Braggadocious Apple Products Here
  12. nickpro macrumors regular

    Jun 11, 2007
    Bay Area
    the camera improvements look great, but i'm honestly very surprised to see that they stuck with 8 MP for the 3rd generation in a row. i was expecting at least 10 MP but seems cramming a larger sensor in there isn't happening at the moment.
  13. lildimsum7 macrumors regular

    Aug 17, 2009
    camera quality seems really great. close to DSLR
  14. Velin macrumors 65816


    Jul 23, 2008
    Hearst Castle
    Who cares about all of this? If I want to be shooting movies or putting together photo albums, I'll get a videocam or SLR.

    This is a phone. It's a communication device. Where's HD voice? Improved speakers so I can hear speakers on the other end? What about improvements in antenna and reception? Speakerphone? WiFi hotspot ease of use?

    How about wifi-calling across all wireless carriers? Where was additional presentation about ios7 improvements and how they work with the new iPhone. Any improvements in Mail, instant messaging, voicemail, anything at all that improves the iPhone as a communications device?

    Presentation sucked, all I saw was junk about video games and dual flash for photos that no one cares about. Candy for people who like to waste time. This is a phone.
  15. gadget123 macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    The camera looks impressive and nice to see they avoided the typical mega pixel bump and realised 8mp is satisfactory.
  16. Klae17 macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2011
    So now I can look less pale and more vampiric!
  17. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    - 720p120

    - double-Megapixel panos (prolly also with varying exposure - Apple's keynote wasn't particularly clear on this)

    - burst (or at least with the same speed)


    Lolz... check out the noise and the oversharpening halos in Apple's official shots:


    Yes, significant noise in all color channels even at base ISO. Unlike with a DSLR, where you may only spot noise (on base ISO) in deep blue skies.

    It's a far-far cry away from a DSLR, image quality-wise...
  18. Taz Mangus macrumors 68040

    Taz Mangus

    Mar 10, 2011
    My iPhone 5 has HD voice so I would think the iPhone 5S would have it also.
  19. gadget123 macrumors 68000

    Apr 17, 2011
    United Kingdom
    Anything beyond 12mp would be meaningless anyway.

    Much better to improve it gradually. If they do go with more mega pixels it would have to improve the quality.

    Remember the ultimate camera phone C905 Sony Ericsson Cyershot followed by the satio which took dull, bland over infacted 12mp photos.

    For that reason we should be glad Apple stuck to 8mp.
  20. runeapple macrumors 6502a

    Mar 5, 2010

    And Slo-mo mode.
  21. LincolnsiPod macrumors 6502a

    Nov 20, 2009
    That's funny, I have the S95, and I was wondering if the iPhone 5S camera spec is advanced enough that it might finally compete with the low light quality of the S95 to S120 line. I seriously doubt it though. I'm actually awaiting reviews of the upcoming S120 to see if it's worth an upgrade. The wifi would make it easy to transfer photos to the iPhone so even if I shoot with my Canon, I can still socially share it on the iPhone without the need for additional accessories.

    Since I love instagramming and iPhoneography, the camera upgrade is the selling point for me. I may have to wait till someone does a photo comparison to see if it's really worth the plunge (I have an iPhone 5 now).
  22. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    While what you state is true in many respects, with the 8 Mpixel vs. 13 Mpixel comparison, not necessarily. Let me point out that the 13 Mpixel GS4 has consistently produced considerably better results than the 8 Mpixel iPhone 5 in every respect:

    - noise
    - resolution
    - DR

    Of course, currently, not much is known of the 5S. We've already seen Apple's own images, which, while much better than those of, say, Sony's new "Honami" Z1, are still a long cry away from DSLR quality. I really hope there's a significant quality increase and now the 5S can match the GS4 at least in the noise / DR dept. (I'm afraid it won't match in the resolution dept.)
  23. verniesgarden macrumors 6502a


    May 29, 2007
    Portland, Or
    the best camera is the one you have with you.

    I shoot a lot with my SLR, but most times I'm just out with friends i'm not gonna lug it around, but I will have my phone with me and if it captures a better photo than all the better
  24. identity macrumors 6502

    Nov 18, 2011
    You hate others yet post about others hating. The butthurt is strong.
  25. Battlefield Fan macrumors 65816

    Battlefield Fan

    Mar 9, 2008
    Only noteable difference between the iPhone 5 and 5S...

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