iPhone 5S Changes Highlighted in New Rear Shell Comparison Photos

[verpeiler]

No actually, that is the most important thing. If everyone wanted a Phablet and if Apple not having one was a detriment then the iphone wouldn't be popular. Everywhere an iPhone sells well, phablets are also available – people are just preferring the iPhone.

Err, not they don't? What numbers are you referring to? The iPhone is selling good, that's all... other devices are selling better, just not single models. And why are you still talking about phablets, that's a niche product.

I don't want a bigger phone... I want it to be able to fit in my pockets. If you dislike apple products so much why are you here?

They all fit into you pockets.. you still don't know what you're talking about.


And I don't dislike Apple products, you're wrong.. again. I use many Apple products on a daily basis, just their phone is lacking behind. And if all rumors from the 5S will come true it will be a boring device in comparison to the competition. Still, many people will enjoy it.. and it will sell well.

 

[asthamapheo]

1) lol.I thought I was being clear!
2) I don't know what this comment was for. I know I definitely don't live in the stone age.
3) Not sure what you think I made up!! If you mean that apple doesn't need a phablet, then you are right in a sense. I don't work for apple anymore so I have no idea what their future plans are as of now, but an educated guess tells a simple story. Phablets are for customers who want to buy just one device to do everything. Apple doesn't do that, they make 4 separate device (iPod touch, iPhone, iPad Mini iPad) to do the things that they do, right. The 5c I will put in the same category as all iPhones because it's only purpose is to be cheaper (not another size or shape or device line, like note and galaxy). Some niche people may want one, but not enough to notice in sales... that's for sure.

why don't you buy an alarm clock, calculator, flashlight, music player, etc because different companies make them "to do the things that they do, right"

 

[egoistaxx9]

"s" models never change cosmetically from the previous model. No one should ever expect them to. The "s" model is the refined version of the previous model, where they've worked out the bugs they found in the last one and up the horse power as well as a little something extra. The last "s" model (4s) got Siri, 1080p recording as well as a much improved antenna and lens system. This one looks to get much of the same as well as a finger print sensor.

i can see the apple stock and sales going down...

 

[bnnentertainmen]

Image

nice one...

 

[Websnapx2]

i can see the apple stock and sales going down...

The 4s outsold the 4 in pre-order, launch weekend sales and I'm positive 5 to 5s will be no different. Also, apple's stock was at it's highest between the 4s and the 5 so history doesn't indicate that it would drop on an "s" release. They can put me down for two 5s' to replace mine (and my wife's) 4.

----------

why don't you buy an alarm clock, calculator, flashlight, music player, etc because different companies make them "to do the things that they do, right"

Horrible argument. First off, a stand alone calculator doesn't calculate and better than the calculator app does (so there is no way it does it "wrong"), but an iPad is better than an iPhone to read a book. You can do the same comparison for the other items for yourself, the argument is the same. Besides, I have a bag with which I carry my iPad while my phone is in my pocket. When I want to watch something or need the bigger size, I grab my pad. My phone rings, I get out my phone. They do different things because they are meant to. I don't want the trade-offs that come with combining them because then it will always lack something.

 

[Websnapx2]

Err, not they don't? What numbers are you referring to? The iPhone is selling good, that's all... other devices are selling better, just not single models. And why are you still talking about phablets, that's a niche product.

The iPhone is selling better than "good", please... no other device is selling better than the iPhone 5. Android as a platform is selling better than iOS - absolutely, but not one particular device is selling better than the iPhone 5 and that's with the dip it has now that everyone is expecting the 5s/c. I'm STILL bringing up phablets because you insist on bringing up larger screen/phablet sizes. anyone can track our conversation back and see you hadn't stopped bringing it up.

They all fit into you pockets.. you still don't know what you're talking about.

No, they don't. I know what I'M talking about... you seem to be back-pedalling. That's fine though. If you are done talking about unnecessarily large phone screens we can talk about something people actually care about in a phone.

And I don't dislike Apple products, you're wrong.. again. I use many Apple products on a daily basis, just their phone is lacking behind. And if all rumors from the 5S will come true it will be a boring device in comparison to the competition. Still, many people will enjoy it.. and it will sell well.

Please, tell me when I've been wrong and haven't corrected myself. I obviously don't know you so I admit, maybe you do like apple products (doesn't seem to show at all, but hey... maybe it's tough love). I will say this though, If a fingerprint scanner is boring to you, and you can't see the immense potential that has on so much more than unlocking the screen or purchases... then I can't help you, dude. The only slightly interesting thing on any competing device is the always listening google now, and it sounds like that is hella buggy (that gets a pass, of course cause apple didn't make it)... but, hey – enjoy!

 

[verpeiler]

I'm STILL bringing up phablets because you insist on bringing up larger screen/phablet sizes. anyone can track our conversation back and see you hadn't stopped bringing it up.

No, I never talked about phablets (like the Note), only current usual smartphone sizes (4,3-4,99") that's NOT a phablet.

..so I admit, maybe you do like apple products (doesn't seem to show at all, but hey... maybe it's tough love). I will say this though, If a fingerprint scanner is boring to you, and you can't see the immense potential that has on so much more than unlocking the screen or purchases... then I can't help you, dude. The only slightly interesting thing on any competing device is the always listening google now, and it sounds like that is hella buggy (that gets a pass, of course cause apple didn't make it)... but, hey – enjoy!

I love my Mac, iPad and ATV; and I really loved my iPhone in the past; but IMHO it's where Apple got lost.

I see the potential of a fingerprint sensor (when it's well integrated) and I am very curious about the keynote in september. There are still so many points where the iPhone lags behind, be it small things like a coloured LED, iOS notifications plain suck, overall lack of control and so on.... and iOS7 is just the old one with new paint, in my opinion it's not a big step forward.

 

[Websnapx2]

I see the potential of a fingerprint sensor (when it's well integrated) and I am very curious about the keynote in september. There are still so many points where the iPhone lags behind, be it small things like a coloured LED, iOS notifications plain suck, overall lack of control and so on.... and iOS7 is just the old one with new paint, in my opinion it's not a big step forward.

iOS 7 is way more than 6 "with new paint". Have you run it for any length of time? I've been running it since beta 2 and it's been stellar. I just switched my personal device back to 6 (still have my dev iPad on 7) in anticipation for 7 and the loss was instantly felt - even on a iPhone 4. The last beta was just as fast as iOS 6 was on my phone. The interface is lighter and cleaner. The "today" function alone has me wanting 7 back on my daily driver. The notifications are way better (love the swipe up to ignore, the only thing they are lacking is in-line responding and I'm hoping for a surprise before release). I'm not sure what "over all lack of control" means but I've been missing control panel big-time since downgrading. Everything about it has been fantastic - with the understanding that it's still beta for a few more weeks. I can't wait for the GM. I'm also sure they have been holding things back to announce with the new Phone, like they did with Siri and Maps. I don't think we've seen all of iOS7 yet.

 

[verpeiler]

iOS 7 is way more than 6 "with new paint".

Is it? The control center aside (long overdue addition) and a modified notification pane (kinda cosmetic too), what has really changed? Everything else is still exactly the same, nothing has changed "under the hood". Things like new keyboards, inter-app communication (maybe an "Apple-way" could've been done), no real customization of your homescreen. Hell, you can't even sort the Apps the way you want since no spaces are allowed. And the backstep with only 9 visible apps per folder is mindboggling.

Don't get me wrong, I guess the 5S (and maybe 5C) will be a great device, and it will sell better then every iPhone before. But IMHO iOS just feels clunky and old, even with the "new paint" of iOS 7; apart from some cosmetic changes there's nothing that really excites me about a new version of it. After using and enjoying some other flagship devices I just can't imagine to come back to the iPhone.

I'm curious about the iPad version of iOS7 because I still prefer it over all android tablets though ;-)

 

[Websnapx2]

Is it? The control center aside (long overdue addition) and a modified notification pane (kinda cosmetic too), what has really changed? Everything else is still exactly the same, nothing has changed "under the hood". Things like new keyboards, inter-app communication (maybe an "Apple-way" could've been done), no real customization of your homescreen. Hell, you can't even sort the Apps the way you want since no spaces are allowed. And the backstep with only 9 visible apps per folder is mindboggling.

Don't get me wrong, I guess the 5S (and maybe 5C) will be a great device, and it will sell better then every iPhone before. But IMHO iOS just feels clunky and old, even with the "new paint" of iOS 7; apart from some cosmetic changes there's nothing that really excites me about a new version of it. After using and enjoying some other flagship devices I just can't imagine to come back to the iPhone.

I'm curious about the iPad version of iOS7 because I still prefer it over all android tablets though ;-)

Well, obviously you are choosing what you want to see. Tons have been rewritten under the hood plus tons of new APIs for gaming, airdrop, cloud keychain, multitasking and accessories. New MapKit, TextKit, SpriteKit, peer-to-peer connectivity... a crapload of new frameworks (takes care of that "inter-app communication" for you). If all you see are new icons, then I can't help you. Only niche users care about different keyboards, please... that **** isn't important. Organizing your home screen? Wow... lets keep that innovation rolling... maybe google can make the changing keyboard button really big on the home screen, and take up half the screen since I'll be doing it so often. You are talking about iOS 7 being a new "paint-job"? Literally everything you just listed was just a paint job and not actually functionality. BTW - folders in iOS7 hold an unlimited number of apps - I'm not sure where you get you info from, but it's not correct.

It's your opinion that the new iOS feels clunky (I'm personally calling ******** since it sounds like you've never used it) but I've had it running on my daily driver iPhone 4 since Beta 2 and everyone how's actually played with it loves it – from seasoned users to newly minted smartphone owners. You are a minority in this aspect.

iOS 7 on iPad is just like it is on the phone –*awesome – though there are some bugs on the iPad version as it's development started later that the phone. SOunds like it will be released later anyway so it will be fully baked when it comes out.

 

[verpeiler]

Well, obviously you are choosing what you want to see. Tons have been rewritten under the hood plus tons of new APIs for gaming, airdrop, cloud keychain, multitasking and accessories. New MapKit, TextKit, SpriteKit, peer-to-peer connectivity...

Right, but changes "under the hood" like new APIs and Kits come with every version, would be odd if nothing had changed. Still you won't notice those changes that much as a user.

Only niche users care about different keyboards, please... that **** isn't important.

Oh, so wrong. Keyboards like Swype, Swiftkey or even the JB standard keyboard are so much better... and I like better typing on my smartphone. If you ever enjoyed one of these keyboards you'd miss them on the iPhone, believe me.

Organizing your home screen? Wow... lets keep that innovation rolling... maybe google can make the changing keyboard button really big blabla

Who is talking about innovation, or google? And it's just something that could've been changed with iOS 7, but you still aren't even able to place apps where you want them. I'm not a big fan of widgets but it should be YOU who decides whether to use them or not... or changes to your notification pane... the list goes on and on.
I don't want iOS to be a second Android, but Apple really could cut us some slack in this matter (is that phrase right? I'm german so please forgive my mistakes..), IMHO it's time for a bit more freedom. It's not 2007 anymore.

BTW - folders in iOS7 hold an unlimited number of apps - I'm not sure where you get you info from, but it's not correct.

Read my post again. Yes, you can flip pages now, but I said it's a backstep in functionality that you only see 9 apps in iOS7 (rather 12 in iOS6).

iOS 7 on iPad is just like it is on the phone –*awesome – though there are some bugs on the iPad version as it's development started later that the phone. SOunds like it will be released later anyway so it will be fully baked when it comes out.

Yap, I hope so. ;-) And can't wait to buy a retina mini in fall

 

[Websnapx2]

Right, but changes "under the hood" like new APIs and Kits come with every version, would be odd if nothing had changed. Still you won't notice those changes that much as a user.

I don't understand your comment then. These are the changes needed to make applications do things they haven't been able to do before. It's disingenuous to say the update is just the old os with "new paint"and that things are "still exactly the same... nothing has changed "under the hood"", then say "new APIs and Kits come with every version, would be odd if nothing had changed" when that is the definition of non-cosmetic change. Not every update cones with this many changes to code and kit implementation. Users WILL notice them when their passwords are securely synced, Maps plays better with 3rd party apps, Airdrop changes how files get shared and a whole host of other uses devs can now tie in much more easily to their apps.

Oh, so wrong. Keyboards like Swype, Swiftkey or even the JB standard keyboard are so much better... and I like better typing on my smartphone. If you ever enjoyed one of these keyboards you'd miss them on the iPhone, believe me.

I've tried them, at length. Along with development I test out all sorts of devices for the corp I work for. To me, they are gimmicky and the omission of them far from constitutes a failure from apple. However, if you like them –just Jailbreak and we are all good. I personally have only heard this argument from tech savy people who like to try out new things. The average person doesn't care - it's just a new thing to learn.

Who is talking about innovation, or google? And it's just something that could've been changed with iOS 7, but you still aren't even able to place apps where you want them. I'm not a big fan of widgets but it should be YOU who decides whether to use them or not... or changes to your notification pane... the list goes on and on.
I don't want iOS to be a second Android, but Apple really could cut us some slack in this matter (is that phrase right? I'm german so please forgive my mistakes..), IMHO it's time for a bit more freedom. It's not 2007 anymore.

I mentioned Google because you are referencing their layout choices. I mentioned Innovation because you seem to think that these choices are more evolved. Personally, I hate widgets... all they do is push more content onto other "panes or screens" so I don't follow this idea at all. People have choice. They can go to another platform. Apple is about consistency not about customization. That will not change. It isn't old thinking that prevents hyper-customization – it's that I can lend my phone to my sister and she instantly knows how to use it. Apple spends a lot of time and money showing people how to use their devices – troubleshooting it in stores and online. Consistency in the OS while trouble-shooting is the difference between a happy and a frustrated user. I feel, and obviously many other agree – Apple has made the right choice in how they handle the stock os. If you don't like it, you can jailbreak it.

Read my post again. Yes, you can flip pages now, but I said it's a backstep in functionality that you only see 9 apps in iOS7 (rather 12 in iOS6).

This is a glass is half -empty argument. You say it's a step back because you see 3 less icons, I say it's a step forward because the folder holds way more items in total. We are both right.

Yap, I hope so. ;-) And can't wait to buy a retina mini in fall

Don't forget to jailbreak it!