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iPhone 5S Fingerprint Scanning Home Button to Look Nearly Identical, iOS 7 for iPad to Debut Later with New Hardware?

peterdevries said:
Of course not. (Smart) thiefs wipe the thing completely and use it themselves or sell it on. Only if they are interested in your data (which they never are unless you are Scarlett Johansson or Lindsey Lohan) will they need your fingerprint. And even then it's unlikely that the complete print will be somewhere on your phone in a usable way.
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Actually, with the new iOS7 and if the 5S does have the fingerprint sensor, the thief would need to bypass the sensor (or passcode) in order to wipe the thing. That was one of Apple's new features of iOS7. It can't be reset or wiped without providing authentication by the user first. So, yes, most thieves won't care about personal info, but they will need to bypass that in order to wipe it and resell it.

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goobot said:
That's not how it works. It scans deeper into your finger than a print can do.
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Ah, ok. If so, then my concern would be unfounded. Glad to hear. Thanks for the info.

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Wingsy said:
Yeah, you're wrong. They did think it through (like they always do). The fingerprint sensor reads your fingerprint from BELOW the skin and detects a biologically active finger. In other words, it has to be a live finger and does not respond to an overlay placed on the finger to fake someone else's print. I think you can relax and not worry too much.
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Same as previous. Glad to hear if that's the case. Thanks for the feedback.
 
tekno said:
I don't want to get into an android vs iOS argument, but my Samsung does exactly this (one of the best things about it). Are you sure there isn't an app that lets you do this?
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lol, so here at work we have people who when they update their password on their computer have to have the admin reset it...

I've seen people do this on their iPhones, but generally they simply restore from their backup (icloud backup from the night before). How would you approach that from the android side? say if someone goes to use the wifi unlock feature (delay lock), and forgets their new passcode/gesture when they leave their current location. What tools are common for restoring the device with their data after an event like that?
 
bretm said:
I was walking down the street in Baltimore this summer, and right there, next to a canal on a seating area, was an iPad. I thought I had to be on "What would you do?" on TV or something. There were all sorts of people walking, but nobody within 50 feet of the thing. So we reluctantly picked it up and it didn't have a passcode!

This enabled us to go to the email, see who the emails were addressed to, then look in the contacts for someone by that name. We called someone with the same last name. It turned out to be a daughter in law. She called her mother in law's cell. The owner of the iPad and simply left it there accidentally and walked off to lunch. We met her there and got it back to her.

If she had a pass code set, I'm not sure how we would've found her.
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Okay, fair enough, but that's like a story where a person happens to not be wearing their seat belt and lives because of it.
 
Keerock said:
am I crazy? I find that close to 100% of people I know use a passcode...
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Everyone I know (literally) uses an iPhone. The only one who uses a passcode is me, because it's required for work - I don't think anyone else even knows passcodes are a possibility.

To follow up on that, my company's password rules are *really* draconian - we can't even us the four-digit code, we have to use an 8+ character code that includes *both* letters and numbers and must not start with a number, etc. Takes me 10+ seconds to login every time I need to use my phone :(
 
bretm said:
I was walking down the street in Baltimore this summer, and right there, next to a canal on a seating area, was an iPad. I thought I had to be on "What would you do?" on TV or something. There were all sorts of people walking, but nobody within 50 feet of the thing. So we reluctantly picked it up and it didn't have a passcode!

This enabled us to go to the email, see who the emails were addressed to, then look in the contacts for someone by that name. We called someone with the same last name. It turned out to be a daughter in law. She called her mother in law's cell. The owner of the iPad and simply left it there accidentally and walked off to lunch. We met her there and got it back to her.

If she had a pass code set, I'm not sure how we would've found her.
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You're the last of a dying breed my friend. Here in Philly, we could pretty much kiss that thing goodbye.
 
rdlink said:
One little nit, and I only bring it up because I've seen it a few times in Macrumors articles recently: Can you please stop using the grammatically incorrect and redundant statement: "past history"?

All history is past history. It's either "past experience" or just "history."

Saying "past history" is like saying "hot water heater."
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Past history as opposed to recent history....maybe?
 
Still using the iPhone 4. I'm holding out until the home button is gone. They will do it, it's just a matter of time. Steve wanted it gone. I'm thinking iPhone 6 in spring.
 
Rogifan said:
How would these sites survive if we didn't have leaks? And if people hate leaks why would they visit a site like this in the first place?
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Thats true and you are right, but all these leaks will ruin the surprise for us when the real thing comes.
We would have expected something and it does not seem to be true then all the hate at Apple begins, or if the leaks were right then we would not be surprised and say Apple stopped innovating...
 
thank god the home button will stay the same, a convex button would've looked ugly and would've been a deal-breaker for a lot of people.
 
kmichalec said:
Actually, with the new iOS7 and if the 5S does have the fingerprint sensor, the thief would need to bypass the sensor (or passcode) in order to wipe the thing. That was one of Apple's new features of iOS7. It can't be reset or wiped without providing authentication by the user first. So, yes, most thieves won't care about personal info, but they will need to bypass that in order to wipe it and resell it.
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Thanks, I stand corrected. That's really interesting.
 
Some guy said:
Haven't apps on the iPhone, and the iOS logos as well, always been square with rounded corners?
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Yep but the curvature on app icons changed ever so slightly in iOS 7.

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Finger Print Scanner - Purpose

Latest rumour is that the Finger Print Scanner on the iPhone will also have an App for health. It will display your pulse rate, body temperature, etc. Finger to use will be your thumb

It is also linked to SIRI. SIRI & the Finger Print scanner will have a few additional functions linked to the user.
 
peterdevries said:
Thanks, I stand corrected. That's really interesting.
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No problem. Yeah, that is a pretty cool feature. It's one of the things Apple is doing to cut down on phone thefts. If it becomes public knowledge that an iPhone can't be wiped out and reset without providing the authorization (either fingerprint or passcode), then hopefully, thieves may pass up on stealing them. Hopefully....
 
donutbagel said:
The point is that someone is more likely to power it off or wipe it if it's locked. ... I'm assuming that a passcode could be cracked or the data extracted in some way, so I'm afraid to put anything on there that I wouldn't mind in the hands of a crook.
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But, it's easier to wipe it if it is not locked. Find My iPhone is supposed to add a feature to lock out the phone remotely if it is stolen, have to have apple ID & password to get into it, even if it's wiped out (can't be activated without your apple ID & password) and I think it already supports wiping it out remotely if on, which, might be what you want if it is stolen anyway, so they don't steal your identity. Even if you don't have sensitive info. on there, they have your name, number, and contacts, and if you use it, email. But, usually people steal iPhones for the money they can sell them for so they can buy drugs or whatever. But, the upcoming lockout feature will prevent anyone from being able to use a stolen iphone without your apple ID & password. (If you do regular syncing (w/backup), it shouldn't matter if it's wiped, as you can restore to last backup).

Fear can be a powerful thing, if you let it rule you and/or your decisions, it will. I prefer to keep tabs on where my phone is and have a passcode on it, rather than be afraid to use it to it's full extent. And I will implement the lockout feature, once available.

I also think the fingerprint sensor is going to make new iPhones more secure. Once it's set, and with the lockout feature, no one can use it except you.

I also use cryptic passwords, not something easy to memorize, but have to look it up until memorized, much harder to break into. (For apple ID password and such)
 
flux73 said:
Too bad you don't see the potential.
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I see it and don't need it, but that isn't even what I meant by that.

I was referring to your spotting that there's no sensor, now that one of the very FEW parts not leaked, which you seem to imply means that the doubling down worked? That's why...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
apple, please add the fingerprint scanner in the ipads too. oh yeah, a retina ipad mini would be awesome too.:D
 
It's odd, I would have thought they ran the same software and as a result would work whichever iOS device you used. Aside from UI changes, and minor features, obviously.
 
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