iPhone 5s "futureproof"

[mnsportsgeek]

If I owned a 5S there isn't a chance in hell I'd sell it for the 6.

Two year replacements on the iPhone are the way to go. You stay up to date with a phone that runs the newest software flawlessly, and you get enough new features and a redesign to make it worth it.

Keep your 5s. Get the 6s.

 

[Madmischief]

On the fence tbh, depends on what I can get for my 5S 32GB silver with AppleCare in the UK.

As I don't have access to the marketplace forum yet, could one of you let me know what the going rate is for one in great shape and unlocked please?

Apple is offering a £295 on their trade in scheme.

 

[sonicrobby]

I don't feel any pressure at all to upgrade. I just want to. I got the 5S for the fingerprint sensor. Im getting the 6 for the screen and the camera. Nothing is truly future proof with technology. One day, iOS11, 12 whatever it may be, will not be supported by the 5S.

 

[lordofthereef]

Oh look, another thread attempting to justify not purchasing a new phone.

 

[Dmaynard83]

You don't know my usage patterns or what network I'm on (or plan to be on), but your vote of confidence is noted.



Indeed we will.



You clearly haven't been paying much attention to these forums. Before long, there are complaints about how older model iPhones run slow under the current version of iOS. I prefer my phone to be quick and without any stuttering.

Look, sticking around with the iPhone 5s is a perfectly valid use case. If that's what you want to do, great. Go for it. But clearly that's not for everyone.



Actually, the payment system is not an Apple proprietary technology, but an already recognized NFC standard that exists on a number of credit and debit cards already. My Chase debit card has been working fine this way for years now. If a business already accepts NFC based payments (like PayWave, Amex expressPay, Citi Blink), then this will work there, too.

What HAS changed in Apple's case is the back end, and who's doing that processing. In this case, it's Apple negotiating agreements with a number of large banks, which they've already done.




Then don't do it. Enjoy your 5s, I'll enjoy my 6 Plus.

Let me make a couple notes for you:

You don't know my usage patterns or what network I'm on (or plan to be on), but your vote of confidence is noted. - I'm on verizon unlimited data. You can't get any faster than this, and as long as your phone has LTE it's not going to get any faster..Sorry.

You clearly haven't been paying much attention to these forums. Before long, there are complaints about how older model iPhones run slow under the current version of iOS. I prefer my phone to be quick and without any stuttering.

Look, sticking around with the iPhone 5s is a perfectly valid use case. If that's what you want to do, great. Go for it. But clearly that's not for everyone. - No I have been monitoring them very well. I've also beta tested iOS 8 and there is no slow down. So if you think you will notice a difference in speed from a 5S to a 6 I feel very sad for you..

Actually, the payment system is not an Apple proprietary technology, but an already recognized NFC standard that exists on a number of credit and debit cards already. My Chase debit card has been working fine this way for years now. If a business already accepts NFC based payments (like PayWave, Amex expressPay, Citi Blink), then this will work there, too.

What HAS changed in Apple's case is the back end, and who's doing that processing. In this case, it's Apple negotiating agreements with a number of large banks, which they've already done. - You're missing the point. Whether they are using old NFC technology in stores or not, IT DOES NOT MATTER. Right now very rarely does anyone see NFC tech that you can use, maybe randomly in a store or 2 out of 15. The point even right now you rarely see it, and you won't see it's full potential until more stores/restaurants implement this tech. Point being: if you could carry nothing but your phone to pay, that would be awesome. But even with Apple Pay you will still need to carry your card because not every store out there will have NFC tech. Do you get it now?

If you want a bigger screen that is perfectly a valid reason to a get a 6. But don't kid yourself with reasons like faster cpu, faster LTE and apple pay will you see any difference from your 5S. Even if you like the design is a valid reason or if you want the next shiniest piece of tech out is a valid reason, it's your money.

 

[jhtrico1850]

I want the better camera and other features. NOT the screen. I'm boycotting the 6 til I get my 6 mini

 

[RyanTheGeneral]

I gladly do not have this problem. I have the 5. So still have my upgrade- no Touch ID. So will be happy come Friday.

 

[mproudfoot]

I have plenty of disposable cash for a new iPhone (as I did with the 2nd gen, 3G, 3GS, 4 and 4S) but like many, my usage (mainly as a phone but with the occasional email/browser/app use) works fine with the size of the previous or current gen handsets. I see Apple Pay as a pointless gimmick that won't take off due to it being an Apple-specific standard, and I had a Galaxy S3 about 2 years ago and did not find the larger size convenient/pocketable at all.

I guess my main concern is that, if Apple do not make a similarly sized 5S replacement when there are apps that take advantage of the internal hardware, I'll have to look beyond iOS for my next handset when that time comes. So I'm just hoping that at some point, the big A will see fit to provide three models (with the same core components) ranging from 4" to 5.5" to keep us all happy

 

[dsmill]

I am sticking with my 5S. It is still in pristine condition. I would really love to have the NFC feature for Apple Pay and the 128gb for storage. My contract will be up next year, when the 6S and 6S+ will be out, so I will upgrade then when I am offered a discount. I want to see the 2 sizes in person first anyway. In the meantime I will upgrade to IOS8. I can't see myself paying close to $900-$1000 for the 128gb 6 or 6+.

 

[iFalcon]

I currently use an Android phone but had a iphone 5 at one time. It is time to xome back.


I thought about the 6 but found prices on a 5s dropping. In fact, i bought an immaculate 32 gig 5s with original everthing, slim armor s case, glass protector and battery case for 285. Couldn't pass it up.

 

[Steve121178]

Anyone else feel their 5S is perfectly fine and feel no pressure to upgrade?

The 5s is now yesterday's news. The 5s is more than fine and will last for years, but the 6 and 6+ are better devices and have the larger screens that so many of us want. I didn't even need to think about whether I wanted to upgrade, it was a very easy decision.

 

[urkel]

I don't understand why so many people upgrading from the 5S.

The iPhone 5S was called future proof last year because of the 64bit architecture, but it looks like so many people jumping on the 6 bandwagon.

I understand (kind of) because the upgraded screen size. I honestly think the screens are getting too big and I'm waiting for the movement for small screens again. I feel like the whiners have won for now.

This post sounds like its made based more on justification rather than honest opinion. People didn't buy the iPhone 5s because it was the perfect phone, they bought it because it was all that Apple offered. So to call people "Whiners" is out of line. "Whiners" are people who are making unreasonable demands. The iPhone 6 is NOT a response to "whiners, it is a response to an industry that has moved forward while Apple chose to hold back.

It will be clearer a year from now as defenses settle down but the iPhone 5 series was a stumble on Apples part because The iPhone timeline should've gone like this:

2011 - iPhone 4S (3.5")
2012 - iPhone 5 (4.3") iPhone 5c (3.5" cheaper market)
2013 - iPhone 5s (4.3" + NFC to truly be "futureproof")
2014 - iPhone 6 (4.7"), iPhone 6+ (5.5")

I'm not denying that the iPhone 5 wasn't a good phone but it was already clear in 2012 that the industry was moving beyond 4" and in 2013 that NFC was necessary for the eventual payment system. Like it or not, the iPhone 6 is late.

 

[unagimiyagi]

A 5inch phone is just too big. I hope that this trend of increasing phone screen sizes stops.

What I don't get it is why manufacuturers don't simply offer a small, medium, and large size each year with all of the latest ram, cpu, cameras, etc.

How hard is this to do?

Surely we can pick which size screen we want. It's not all that complicated. Then we'd all stop arguing.

Oh and yes, the iPhone 5s is fine for the foreseeable future, as in the next 3 years.

 

[Abazigal]

I am surprised the iPhone 6 has 1 gb of ram (since iPhones have doubled in ram every 2 years). Does this mean the 5s might be able to eke out an extra generation of iOS updates?

 

[Kiju]

I have a 4S, the time for an update has arrived.

As a side note: nothing is future proof.

 

[FrozenInferno]

The 5S should run iOS 8 flawlessly and will get me to my next upgrade no problem. I'll have to see what the 6S brings and what my finances look like at the time but for now I have absolutely no reason to consider the 6. I may even wait until the 7 before upgrading because the 5S is such a great phone.

 

[madsci954]

I'm on a 5s (iOS 8 GM) and I have no desire to upgrade. Only thing compelling me is the nfc and Apple pay, and that hasn't rolled out yet. Plus I'm not sure what size to get and I need to try both first before I decide. I'm looking forward to the iPhone 6s or 6s Plus next year.

 

[Dmaynard83]

iPhone 5s "futureproof"

This post sounds like its made based more on justification rather than honest opinion. People didn't buy the iPhone 5s because it was the perfect phone, they bought it because it was all that Apple offered. So to call people "Whiners" is out of line. "Whiners" are people who are making unreasonable demands. The iPhone 6 is NOT a response to "whiners, it is a response to an industry that has moved forward while Apple chose to hold back.

It will be clearer a year from now as defenses settle down but the iPhone 5 series was a stumble on Apples part because The iPhone timeline should've gone like this:

2011 - iPhone 4S (3.5")
2012 - iPhone 5 (4.3") iPhone 5c (3.5" cheaper market)
2013 - iPhone 5s (4.3" + NFC to truly be "futureproof")
2014 - iPhone 6 (4.7"), iPhone 6+ (5.5")

I'm not denying that the iPhone 5 wasn't a good phone but it was already clear in 2012 that the industry was moving beyond 4" and in 2013 that NFC was necessary for the eventual payment system. Like it or not, the iPhone 6 is late.

Nothing in this post makes me think the 6 is a worthwhile upgrade from the 5s.

If screen size is your issue than it's a great upgrade, other than that I don't see a compelling argument.

 

[urkel]

Nothing in this post makes me think the 6 is a worthwhile upgrade from the 5s.

If screen size is your issue than it's a great upgrade, other than that I don't see a compelling argument.

That's fine because my point wasn't to convince YOU to move forward (and clearly you are trying way too hard to justify your personal decision to stay behind). I'm just pointing out that, in the last 5 gens, this is the biggest jump we've seen.

If someone wants to wait for the 6S then that's fantastic because that model will be even better than this one and the pay service will be better established. But most of us have been waiting for all these features for a while now so this is a Homerun.

 

[noteple]

fu·ture-proof
adjective
1. (of a product) unlikely to become obsolete.

I know Folks Still running their 3G.
Just Not a With The Features We've Come To Expect In 2014

If The phone was from the Future maybe, but it's not.

 

[Dmaynard83]

fu·ture-proof

adjective

1. (of a product) unlikely to become obsolete.



I know Folks Still running their 3G.

Just Not a With The Features We've Come To Expect In 2014



If The phone was from the Future maybe, but it's not.

And again and again I have to to repeat myself.

It was said that the 5s is more future proof because of the 64 bit architecture. Look at the verge review to see what they exactly say.

It does not mean that never have to upgrade again lol.

 

[*~Kim~*]

I don't understand why so many people upgrading from the 5S.

The iPhone 5S was called future proof last year because of the 64bit architecture, but it looks like so many people jumping on the 6 bandwagon.

I understand (kind of) because the upgraded screen size. I honestly think the screens are getting too big and I'm waiting for the movement for small screens again. I feel like the whiners have won for now.

Anyone else feel their 5S is perfectly fine and feel no pressure to upgrade?

Me. I may be in the minority but I don't like the curved edges, and I loved the form factor of my iPhone 4. I didn't want a bigger screen particularly so I upgraded to 5s last year knowing that the screens would likely get bigger and the form factor would likely change completely.

Protruding camera. Urgh. I'd love the features of that camera but I'd be too worried about damaging it.

 

[tennisproha]

I honestly envy people that don't have the gadget list that I do. My close friend finally (serendipitously) cracked the screen on his iPhone 4 last week. He was actually bummed that he needs to get a new phone. Meanwhile I'm up in the middle of the night furiously refreshing the apple website begging them to take my money, even though I have a pristine note 3 sitting right here.

More power to you if you like you 5s. Don't let us suck you in. You will have more money in your pocket, and feel more fulfilled in life if you just overcome the consumerist tendencies. I'm to far gone already lol.

Ha! Well said.

 

[*~Kim~*]

I would say that the 6+ should have been next year on the S cycle, from Apple's point of view. It would give people a chance to get used to the 4.7 before entering into phablet territory. Sales of the 5/5s didn't seem to suffer because people thought the screen size hadn't been increased by a large enough margin. Holding back on the 5.5 would also have forced people who prioritise screen size to upgrade again next year. It seems as if they've done too much at once this year.