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Planned obsolescence my arse.

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Apple only does this, because they self inflicted this problem with their expiring certificates to imprison their customers.
You don't really believe, they did anything more than just this bare minimum, to avoid a s4itstorm next year?
And how does this certificate bar you from moving to a different platform? Yes they obviously implemented this to avoid issues next year, what's the problem? There aren't too many development environments where you would set a certificate to never expire.
 
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And yet they won't allow me to update from 18.7.2 to 18.7.3 unless I sneak it in under the beta program, if that trick even works any more.
 
I still use a 1st gen SE. People see it and ask what's that thing?
I used to keep one around that I had replaced the battery in. I used it for old childhood games and often hot-spotted to browse MacRumours on it so I don't get as sucked in and distracted. It was awesome and super pocketable. Easy to work on and modern enough OS features too.
 
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I will buy it in the old form itself as long as the processor is updated. Heck I would even buy it with the old processor if Apple supports the version of iOS it was released with.
I wish I could agree, but just like with my original SE, there are a few key features I grew too accustomed to:
- Practical cameras
- Dark Mode
- High outdoor brightness

Some less important but still key features I could hardly appreciate my phone without
- high refresh rate
- pure blacks and very low minimal brightness
- USB C
- biometrics that don’t care about moisture, dirt, gloves and the like

And another thing I just recently reminded myself about:
Not ever having to read or worry again about battery life impact because Bluetooth, background refreshes and what not to still get some lousy 4 hours SOT.

We live in magical times.
 
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Got out an old 5s a family member used daily till 2019 and that I used to use about 2 years ago for music and games. fired it back up, erased it and set it up from scratch, and got it running as a podcast machine this time. The battery is what amazes me though. It has never been replaced. That's amazing. These devices were really solid.
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I still use a 1st gen SE. People see it and ask what's that thing?
I still have mine and it works. But I don't use it because I find it slow, and that was the reason I switched to an SE 2022 (3rd gen). I managed to skip the 2nd gen SE, so I did use the 1st gen for a long time.
 
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I still have mine and it works. But I don't use it because I find it slow, and that was the reason I switched to an SE 2022 (3rd gen). I managed to skip the 2nd gen SE, so I did use the 1st gen for a long time.
I love my SE3. I keep it around as a spare. It’s been through everything and still kicks like new.
 
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