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iPhone 5S has 12.10GB

What is impossible? Keep os on different storage?
It's shame operating system eat nearly a quarter of your 16 gb storage.
For this reason I buy 64 gb version.
Win 7 eat nearly thirty gig on my laptop, for what?
Why os grew bigger and awkward?
And it is because no one complain and care about this.
 
Let My heart go said:
Why os grew bigger and awkward?
And it is because no one complain and care about this.
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It's growing because they're always adding more features and people would complain more if there were no new software features. 16 gigs are for people like my mom who hardly use any storage and do just fine on the actual formatted capacity. There's no excuse for not doing your research and picking the capacity that best fits your storage needs. If you cheap out by getting the lowest capacity because that's all you can afford, too bad.
 
Let My heart go said:
I completely agree with these all.
I understand this and buy 64gb capacity.
But still.
When I go to market and buy one pound bread I receive honest pound bread not less.
When I buy 4 seat car I receive four seat car not three or two.
Only in digital market customer receive half of capacity in storage iphone 8gb.
And it frustration for inexperienced customer.
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How would they do this? The OS gets bigger and bigger with each update. So even if you start out with 16GB, the next update will make it 15GB and so on. It's been this way since I could remember. Then you have the computers/smartphones out there manufacturer puts there own stuff on top of the OS.
 
I understand that you get less than advertised, but I will admit that I was a bit upset to find out that my 64GB 6 comes with 56GBs out of the box. I was expecting 60GBs, to be honest.
 
ssl0408 said:
I understand that you get less than advertised, but I will admit that I was a bit upset to find out that my 64GB 6 comes with 56GBs out of the box. I was expecting 60GBs, to be honest.
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Remember that 64GB = 64,000,000,000 bytes, not 68,700,000,000 or so to actually equal 64GB. So just that alone the actual capacity of 59.6GB out of the box, minus 2GB for operating system and other files.
 
I think it's quite funny how "iOS" takes more space as the sizes increase for instance in a 16 GB iPhone it takes up about 4 GB but on a 64 GB it takes about 7 GB.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Yes, there was 16GB to begin with; it got loaded with the OS. Or did you expect the OP to get a 16GB phone with no OS installed?
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Even without the OS, it's going to read fewer than 16GB. It has to do with decimal versus binary calculations of space. Everyone advertises in decimal, the OS calculates in binary.

Sure, you are getting the adverized storage as it is calculated in decimal minus what the OS takes up. But you never actually had 16GB true world storage since all of that is calculated in binary. That's been my entire point. And that is the largest reason for confusion.

And I don't see a reason fro the snarky comment regarding expectations of a phone without an OS.
 
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Let My heart go said:
What is impossible? Keep os on different storage?
It's shame operating system eat nearly a quarter of your 16 gb storage.
For this reason I buy 64 gb version.
Win 7 eat nearly thirty gig on my laptop, for what?
Why os grew bigger and awkward?
And it is because no one complain and care about this.
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You feel better now ? :D
 
Mlrollin91 said:
Remember that 64GB = 64,000,000,000 bytes, not 68,700,000,000 or so to actually equal 64GB. So just that alone the actual capacity of 59.6GB out of the box, minus 2GB for operating system and other files.
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lordofthereef said:
Even without the OS, it's going to read fewer than 16GB. It has to do with decimal versus binary calculations of space. Everyone advertises in decimal, the OS calculates in binary.

Sure, you are getting the adverized storage as it is calculated in decimal minus what the OS takes up. But you never actually had 16GB true world storage since all of that is calculated in binary. That's been my entire point. And that is the largest reason for confusion.

And I don't see a reason fro the snarky comment regarding expectations of a phone without an OS.
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This explains it.
 
lrsone said:
I think it's quite funny how "iOS" takes more space as the sizes increase for instance in a 16 GB iPhone it takes up about 4 GB but on a 64 GB it takes about 7 GB.
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Thats not the OS. Thats the difference in formatting + OS. 1,000,000,000 bytes or "1GB" is actually really only .93GB. For "1GB" to actually be 1GB it would need to be 1,024,000,000 bytes. But it is clearly stated on the box and all over Apple.com that 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes. So there will be a 7% discrepancy no matter what. 7% of 16GB is smaller than 7% of 64GB, but regardless its still 7%.
 
Mlrollin91 said:
Thats not the OS. Thats the difference in formatting + OS. 1,000,000,000 bytes or "1GB" is actually really only .93GB. For "1GB" to actually be 1GB it would need to be 1,024,000,000 bytes. But it is clearly stated on the box and all over Apple.com that 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes. So there will be a 7% discrepancy no matter what. 7% of 16GB is smaller than 7% of 64GB, but regardless its still 7%.
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That's for explaining that.
 
lordofthereef said:
Even without the OS, it's going to read fewer than 16GB. It has to do with decimal versus binary calculations of space. Everyone advertises in decimal, the OS calculates in binary.

Sure, you are getting the adverized storage as it is calculated in decimal minus what the OS takes up. But you never actually had 16GB true world storage since all of that is calculated in binary. That's been my entire point. And that is the largest reason for confusion.

And I don't see a reason fro the snarky comment regarding expectations of a phone without an OS.
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As others have mentioned, Apple clearly provided a disclaimer that 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes, as they did with "Actual formatted capacity less." This is a non-issue.
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
As others have mentioned, Apple clearly provided a disclaimer that 1 GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes, as they did with "Actual formatted capacity less." This is a non-issue.
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I didn't say it was an issue. I said that is why people are confused. The people who don't read disclaimers (dare I say most) are coming here, to these very threads and forums, wondering what is going on.

based on some of the responses to my (and other) posts regarding numbering schemes saying thanks for the explanation, I would say that is proof enough that my posts have helped. Not exactly sure why you are making an issue of it and feeling like you need to attempt an correct multiple posts of mine. But go ahead and have the last word I guess...
 
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Let My heart go said:
I completely agree with these all.
I understand this and buy 64gb capacity.
But still.
When I go to market and buy one pound bread I receive honest pound bread not less.
When I buy 4 seat car I receive four seat car not three or two.
Only in digital market customer receive half of capacity in storage iphone 8gb.
And it frustration for inexperienced customer.
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You buy a 64Gb capacity phone, you get 64GB! It is just not all available.

You buy a 4 seater car but can only carry three passengers as someone has to drive!
 
Newtons Apple said:
You buy a 64Gb capacity phone, you get 64GB! It is just not all available.

You buy a 4 seater car but can only carry three passengers as someone has to drive!
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Moreover, 1 seat = 100 lbs person. You can't carry four 400 lbs passengers in a 5-seater car so don't come crying to your dealer saying you can't transport all your overweight friends because you bought a 5-seater ;)
 
JayLenochiniMac said:
Moreover, 1 seat = 100 lbs person. You can't carry four 400 lbs passengers in a 5-seater car so don't come crying to your dealer saying you can't transport all your overweight friends because you bought a 5-seater ;)
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I assuming this is to simplify things but people usually are more than 100 lbs (at least for men). I believe average to be around ~130 lbs give or take 10 lbs?
 
are we really arguing about this? they are advertising the internal storage space of the drive. are people bitching that their 512GB iMac only has 480GB available after yosemite? LOL
 
Let's all be clear, if the iphone has 12gb free, that does not mean that the ios takes 4 gigs away. As I said in my previous post, decimal vs binary.
 
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