Sprints iphone 5s is the truest world phone if you get it unlocked as it supports the most bands including the all four in the US
Sprints iphone 5s is the truest world phone if you get it unlocked as it supports the most bands including the all four in the US
So I'm really confused about this issue.
I've read a lot of threads on this and this is what I'm piecing together.
One model that covers Verizon, ATT, Tmo. However only the Verizon one is fully unlocked and can work on all three providers, with Voice and Data at the same time on GSM. That ATT and Tmo models won't work on Verizon? Even though the T-mobile one is fully unlocked? Is that correct?
So if I want a model that is fully unlocked, that will work worldwide on CDMA or GSM I need to get on a contract free Verizon phone?
Are all contract free phones fully unlocked?
The phone should be the same for all 3 carriers. The reason the tmobile and att version won't work on Verizon is because Verizon only allows authorized phones. They won't authorize an unlocked phone or a different carriers phone.
I'm not sure with other CDMA carriers do but both sprint and verizon control what phones run on their network. If the carriers over seas have that limitation, none of them will work. If they don't, then they all should.
Again, this is totally confusing me. Everyone says the phones are exactly the same but they don't work on this or that network. Even though the hardware is the same, if they don't work on all networks they are by definition not the same.
Here's a simple question. I want a contract free, unlocked phone that will work on Verizon, ATT, and Tmo. Where all I have to do, is walk in, get a sim, and plop it in. That's it. Which phone do I get?
AFAIK, you could be correct. As far as the law you quoted, it seems to be true. It was true for the iPhone 5. Nothing I have seen if Proof of this in the iPhone 5s.
However, until I read this information in something other than your posts, I do not know this for Truth.
Find an Apple source or a Verizon source for me.
You want the verizon phone then. It will be registered in Verizon's database and you can activate it on their system at anytime. The gsm side will be unlocked and that will work with tmobile and att. Att and tmobile don't restrict what phone is on their network. If it's unlocked and has the gsm bands they use it will work.
Will this supports Verizon's AWS band? I think it's band 4. Any info on this?
You want the verizon phone then. It will be registered in Verizon's database and you can activate it on their system at anytime. The gsm side will be unlocked and that will work with tmobile and att. Att and tmobile don't restrict what phone is on their network. If it's unlocked and has the gsm bands they use it will work.
So i went to price out a 5C. Jus to see how it will work when the 5S comes out. But I can't seem to get an off contract Verizon phone as an option. It just says Sim Free GSM phone, it asks me to sign up for Verizon to get the Verizon phone. In the past you would select a carrier and you had the option to purchase off contract for that carrier.
Sprints iphone 5s is the truest world phone if you get it unlocked as it supports the most bands including the all four in the US
Yes but Sprint iPhone will never be unlocked for US Domestic use...(AT&T, T-mobile etc) = Not a true world phone in my opinion.
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Has anyone been able to buy Verizon iPhone on launch day at full price (Not on contract/Subsidized) from a Verizon Store?
I'm not sure when they updated this info, but currently you can find the following on Apple's site:
About the Unlocked iPhone
The unlocked iPhone includes all the features of iPhone but without a wireless contract commitment. You can activate and use the unlocked iPhone on the supported GSM wireless network of your choice, such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States. The unlocked iPhone 5c and unlocked iPhone 5s will also work on the CDMA networks of Sprint and Verizon Wireless. The unlocked iPhone 4s will work only on GSM wireless networks and will not work with CDMA-based carriers, including Sprint and Verizon Wireless.
If you don’t want a multiyear service contract, or if you prefer to use a local carrier when traveling abroad, the unlocked iPhone is the best choice. If you choose T-Mobile, your iPhone comes with a T-Mobile SIM card already installed. You will need to contact T-Mobile or visit an Apple Retail Store to activate your iPhone.
Otherwise, the unlocked iPhone does not come with a micro-SIM card for iPhone 4s, or a nano-SIM card for iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s, so you’ll need to get one from any supported GSM carrier worldwide (or from Sprint or Verizon Wireless for the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s). To start using your iPhone, simply insert the SIM card into the slot and turn on iPhone by pressing and holding the On/Off button for a few seconds. Then follow the onscreen instructions to set up your iPhone.
Purchasing an unlocked iPhone means you will not qualify for the lower iPhone price associated with a contract. The unlocked iPhone 5c model is A1456. The unlocked iPhone 5s model is A1453.
So, according to Apple,the unlocked 5s is indeed the Sprint model(which conveniently includes support for the most bands).
I'm not sure when they updated this info, but currently you can find the following on Apple's site:
About the Unlocked iPhone
The unlocked iPhone includes all the features of iPhone but without a wireless contract commitment. You can activate and use the unlocked iPhone on the supported GSM wireless network of your choice, such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States. The unlocked iPhone 5c and unlocked iPhone 5s will also work on the CDMA networks of Sprint and Verizon Wireless. The unlocked iPhone 4s will work only on GSM wireless networks and will not work with CDMA-based carriers, including Sprint and Verizon Wireless.
If you dont want a multiyear service contract, or if you prefer to use a local carrier when traveling abroad, the unlocked iPhone is the best choice. If you choose T-Mobile, your iPhone comes with a T-Mobile SIM card already installed. You will need to contact T-Mobile or visit an Apple Retail Store to activate your iPhone.
Otherwise, the unlocked iPhone does not come with a micro-SIM card for iPhone 4s, or a nano-SIM card for iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s, so youll need to get one from any supported GSM carrier worldwide (or from Sprint or Verizon Wireless for the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s). To start using your iPhone, simply insert the SIM card into the slot and turn on iPhone by pressing and holding the On/Off button for a few seconds. Then follow the onscreen instructions to set up your iPhone.
Purchasing an unlocked iPhone means you will not qualify for the lower iPhone price associated with a contract. The unlocked iPhone 5c model is A1456. The unlocked iPhone 5s model is A1453.
So, according to Apple,the unlocked 5s is indeed the Sprint model(which conveniently includes support for the most bands).
You want the verizon phone then. It will be registered in Verizon's database and you can activate it on their system at anytime. The gsm side will be unlocked and that will work with tmobile and att. Att and tmobile don't restrict what phone is on their network. If it's unlocked and has the gsm bands they use it will work.
If you use an ATT sim and therefore the ATT network, can you get LTE data?
If I remember, it used to be you only got HSPA+ data.
Thanks for the heads up!!! I was going to purchase the Verizon version till now. Now it looks like I can use the unlocked version for Verizon.![]()
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Just got off a chat with a rep. No unocked phones available tomorrow. Will happen but later.
I'm not sure when they updated this info, but currently you can find the following on Apple's site:
About the Unlocked iPhone
The unlocked iPhone includes all the features of iPhone but without a wireless contract commitment. You can activate and use the unlocked iPhone on the supported GSM wireless network of your choice, such as AT&T or T-Mobile in the United States. The unlocked iPhone 5c and unlocked iPhone 5s will also work on the CDMA networks of Sprint and Verizon Wireless. The unlocked iPhone 4s will work only on GSM wireless networks and will not work with CDMA-based carriers, including Sprint and Verizon Wireless.
If you dont want a multiyear service contract, or if you prefer to use a local carrier when traveling abroad, the unlocked iPhone is the best choice. If you choose T-Mobile, your iPhone comes with a T-Mobile SIM card already installed. You will need to contact T-Mobile or visit an Apple Retail Store to activate your iPhone.
Otherwise, the unlocked iPhone does not come with a micro-SIM card for iPhone 4s, or a nano-SIM card for iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s, so youll need to get one from any supported GSM carrier worldwide (or from Sprint or Verizon Wireless for the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s). To start using your iPhone, simply insert the SIM card into the slot and turn on iPhone by pressing and holding the On/Off button for a few seconds. Then follow the onscreen instructions to set up your iPhone.
Purchasing an unlocked iPhone means you will not qualify for the lower iPhone price associated with a contract. The unlocked iPhone 5c model is A1456. The unlocked iPhone 5s model is A1453.
So, according to Apple,the unlocked 5s is indeed the Sprint model(which conveniently includes support for the most bands).
No disrespect, but the chat reps information is so misinformed. I seem to always get different answers from different reps.
Not exactly. At present, Verizon LTE phones drop down to CDMA 1x for voice, and the phones can't do CDMA and LTE at the same time. Hence, currently the phones can't do simultaneous voice and data. However, I believe Verizon has said they will be deploying Voice over LTE (VoLTE) by next year. With VoLTE, the phone is using LTE for both voice and data and hence you can use both.No. According to Apple, data and voice won't work on 5S on Verizon.
I called around today. For the 5S, you can't order a device-only phone from either Apple or Verizon. But you can buy a device-only phone from either if they have it in stock.So i went to price out a 5C. Jus to see how it will work when the 5S comes out. But I can't seem to get an off contract Verizon phone as an option. It just says Sim Free GSM phone, it asks me to sign up for Verizon to get the Verizon phone. In the past you would select a carrier and you had the option to purchase off contract for that carrier.
I called around today. For the 5S, you can't order a device-only phone from either Apple or Verizon. But you can buy a device-only phone from either if they have it in stock.
I called my closest Verizon store and the rep told me that I could buy a contract-free, device-only phone if they have it in stock, but anything that has to be ordered can only be ordered with service, and all iPhone 5Ss need to be ordered for now but should be in stock in a couple of months. I also called my closest Apple store and the rep there said pretty much the same thing (can buy contract-free, device-only phone if it is in stock, but can only order a Verizon iPhone 5S with service). However, the local Apple store did have a Verizon one in stock so I went over and bought it. I don't know if it is locked or not.I don't think you can buy a "device-only" phone at Verizon (at least I couldn't), you have to have (or create) an account with them. And even when calling Apple stores I have gotten the response saying something to the effect "we currently only sell "contract" phones, because of the high demand".