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iPhone 5s Shipping Estimates Slip to October
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Explain to me why any rational businessman would choose not to increase his profits by selling more products.
I order my space gray 32gb from att like around 1 am and it arrives on monday. The shipping dates changed from 10/20-10/31 to 10/1-10/10 and then to shipped.
Agreed. I bought my daughter an iPhone 5 C Yellow Version today at Walmart and Walmart is sold out of the five C's he said that they had over 300 of them in stock so flop I think not. He told me they were selling like hotcakes. I got the last one they had.
AT&T shipping times
So I ordered my 5s from AT&T, 6 minutes before midnight PDT. Shipping time was originally October 21-30th, much to my chagrin. Surprisingly, instead, it shipped Friday night and I'll be getting it on Monday. I got a tracking number early this morning. It shipped from Memphis.
It's entirely possible that Apple's shipping times are conservative, like AT&T's, and they'll be able to get devices out pretty quick as they rush to meet demand for online orders. Apple loves talking about fast rollouts and they're good at supply chain management. I'm sure they'll be bragging soon enough about how many units they've managed to sell.
I love seeing people try to simultaneously argue that not selling out and selling out are both failures on Apple's part. You guys crack me up. Until we see actual sales numbers, we have no idea what supplies are actually like, and it's impossible to reach conclusions about demand. Common sense would say that Apple should have no issues making the 5c, though, whereas the 5s with its new components might have supply issues. Since Apple is smart enough to know that you only get revenue by actually shipping units, I'm sure they aren't artificially constraining supply for either device, and did their best to anticipate demand and meet it.
So I ordered my 5s from AT&T, 6 minutes before midnight PDT. Shipping time was originally October 21-30th, much to my chagrin. Surprisingly, instead, it shipped Friday night and I'll be getting it on Monday. I got a tracking number early this morning. It shipped from Memphis.
It's entirely possible that Apple's shipping times are conservative, like AT&T's, and they'll be able to get devices out pretty quick as they rush to meet demand for online orders. Apple loves talking about fast rollouts and they're good at supply chain management. I'm sure they'll be bragging soon enough about how many units they've managed to sell.
I love seeing people try to simultaneously argue that not selling out and selling out are both failures on Apple's part. You guys crack me up. Until we see actual sales numbers, we have no idea what supplies are actually like, and it's impossible to reach conclusions about demand. Common sense would say that Apple should have no issues making the 5c, though, whereas the 5s with its new components might have supply issues. Since Apple is smart enough to know that you only get revenue by actually shipping units, I'm sure they aren't artificially constraining supply for either device, and did their best to anticipate demand and meet it.
I'm getting the 5C because I really need a new phone badly and I know its gonna be hard to get hands on 5S till November
I have to wait until mid-October to get one or else pay an ETF. So DON'T WANNA HEAR IT!
Future advice: There was a 1-3 day wait if you ordered at 3 a.m. or a couple of hours later from Apple.com. So literally if you snoozed, you lose(d). If you needed the phone that badly on launch day, should've ordered from the stockpile Apple had ASAP. Otherwise, you're in with the rest of us and just have to wait.
Absolutely. I got up at 12:01 AM in the morning and ordered mine and got my order from 1 to 3 days. People complaining about not getting theirs are the ones that did not get up on time to order them it's their own fault
people shouldn't be surprised with these lead time numbers. if everyone remembers back to the 4S launch, the lead time was even worse. i remember i placed an order in October and i didn't get it until the end of November. that was for the 32GB model too...the 16GB model was saying at the time the lead time was early December
the lead times finally stabilized approaching the holidays where it was down to just 5-7 days
no one should be surprised by the lead times with the 5S, as they are actually better than the 4S
the lead times finally stabilized approaching the holidays where it was down to just 5-7 days
no one should be surprised by the lead times with the 5S, as they are actually better than the 4S
The correct sales comparison is 5S to 5 a year ago, and 5C to 4S a a year ago. Would people still be saying $99 was too much if it were the 5 selling for $99? The 5C is the 5 with an improved front camera, larger battery, and offered in colors. Nearly 40% of iPhones sold last year were the 4S (for $99). Apple knows there is a market for a $99 phone and has moved to take more of it.
Apple does this every year. They create artificial demand to have people talking about
The phone and make the news. The stores only have space grey, as if that was an accident. They know they sell the least so supply those first to sell to people out of impulse and being impatient.
Some stores only have 10-20 gold iPhones? A billion dollar company can't make enough supply? Give me a break.
It's getting old, just make enough of what people want.
The phone and make the news. The stores only have space grey, as if that was an accident. They know they sell the least so supply those first to sell to people out of impulse and being impatient.
Some stores only have 10-20 gold iPhones? A billion dollar company can't make enough supply? Give me a break.
It's getting old, just make enough of what people want.
Would we all agree that should Apple not do their customary "record" announcement on Monday, that in all likelihood demand was lower than expected or supplies were lower than they should have been?
I was in Phones4U in Derby today and they had stock of Silver and Grey; they said they had had no gold ones delivered at all at the branch I was in.
Yup. Just like they screwed the "Pro" market, they're focusing on saturating the consumer market further.
3 solid displays and great G4-5 towers replaced years later with 1 crappy iMac based LED LCD and an expensive Mac Pro. Adding insult, we get an "innovated" system with a high dependency on external Thunderbolt storage, an obvious push for a disappointing adoption rate. Perhaps the new Mac Pro ships with the same iMac "Elmer's" glue - oh, wait, you can't upgrade it either.
Neglecting the professional market as "too niche" and over saturating the consumer market isn't a good idea. Now they're doing it with iPhones. Steve Jobs was smart in streamlining Apple products into 4 quadrants; Professional, Consumer/ Desktop, Notebook. Apple has grown amazingly, perhaps too quickly, it's beginning to spread itself too thin.
Focus on a few, stellar products, not stretching innovation out with less expensive versions of the same thing.
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I disagree. When I was praying to the Lord last week, he received a call on his iPhone 4s. I am sure he is ready to upgrade. Gold 5s FTW.
This is Apple we're talking about. Everything they do is always wrong. The iPhone 5S is a failure because it sold out. The iPhone 5C is a failure because it did not sell out. See how that works?
Unless they sold, I don't know, 10 million iPhone 5S's this weekend (which we will presumably find out on Monday), Apple really should've anticipated demand. It seems silly to me to say that they would intentionally limit supply, but it also seems farfetched that they couldn't see this coming.
1) Apple makes the news no matter what, even when it's not justified. Apple doesn't need extra hype.
2) Why would Apple ship only space gray if they knew people would want the white or gold ones, when the cost to make any color is probably exactly the same? There may be some who end up buying their second favorite color, but there are also going to be those who wait, and Apple would rather have that revenue this week than next month.
3) Gold is a new color and Apple has no idea how many people want it. Why would they take the risk of producing too many when they know the other colors are sure to sell? Being conservative and seeing what the demand is like gives them a better idea of what to produce more of.
Milwaukee, WI Bayshore apple store only had one gold iPhone come in. It was a 64gb AT&T one. Did they think it was not going to sell? Why introduce things they can't produce fast enough?
An AT&T store down the block from the Apple store only had space gray phones come in..
An AT&T store down the block from the Apple store only had space gray phones come in..
Unless you want the color phone in polycarbonate...
Anyone ever think outside of their own little mindset? You know, there are people who prefer the colorful phone...
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Unfortunately, I think he gets paid to care.