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iPhone 5S to Get Upgraded Camera and Processor, Could Ship to Retailers in the 3rd Quarter
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Why? Virtually all relatively new smart phones can last a full day and a bit.
Most people charge at night.
On the whole, there are more important things, like true multitasking, a larger screen choice, etc..
Oh how true!
I love this!!!
Please tell us what Apple is so behind on??? Please tell us how much better all the other company's are innovating stuff that no one couldn't do if they wanted?
Is a phone kissing another phone of the same brand sending a video to one another a big innovative leap forward??? Please tell us when the last time you used that feature??? I use video to send something to somebody that is not present with me. Let me know when the phone can kiss another brand of phone, transfer the video from one location to another location where the other person is, then I'll agree it's innovative? I use a lot of the iPhone's features but not all of them and I've never seen another smartphone that did something I was blown away with and just had to have it!!!
Please show me something I need so desperately I'm willing to say Apple's iPhone is behind the times? The other manufacture's have closed the gap, but to say they're ahead of the phone & company that started it all!!! Please let me know why I should get any other phone then the iPhone? Tell me what I can't live without & need? Steve Jobs and Apple did it to me 6yrs ago!
I love this!!!
Please tell us what Apple is so behind on??? Please tell us how much better all the other company's are innovating stuff that no one couldn't do if they wanted?
Is a phone kissing another phone of the same brand sending a video to one another a big innovative leap forward??? Please tell us when the last time you used that feature??? I use video to send something to somebody that is not present with me. Let me know when the phone can kiss another brand of phone, transfer the video from one location to another location where the other person is, then I'll agree it's innovative? I use a lot of the iPhone's features but not all of them and I've never seen another smartphone that did something I was blown away with and just had to have it!!!
Please show me something I need so desperately I'm willing to say Apple's iPhone is behind the times? The other manufacture's have closed the gap, but to say they're ahead of the phone & company that started it all!!! Please let me know why I should get any other phone then the iPhone? Tell me what I can't live without & need? Steve Jobs and Apple did it to me 6yrs ago!
Then buy it???
You have it all figured out and the competition has what you want so why don't you buy it??? You said you have the means to, so why have you not got the 5in Samsung for your big hands??? I'm fine with 4in. and I think I might get an iPhone with a 5in as well. I didn't know that was innovative? I still don't understand why you have not got all those phones that are so much better. And to say you would get rid of iPads & iPad mini's? Really, one inch would do all that for you?
Why do you want Apple to make your phone when HTC & Samsung have what you want already? Makes no sense to me, I'm happy with the featureless iPhone! Sounds like you own one too, strange, you don't like it, and as you say have the means of getting a new phone every year. Why don't you just get what you want and let Apple do as they do. I still don't get that one inch on screen size would make you give up everything else, that just blows me away??? So why have you not bought a Samsung Galaxy?;
You have it all figured out and the competition has what you want so why don't you buy it??? You said you have the means to, so why have you not got the 5in Samsung for your big hands??? I'm fine with 4in. and I think I might get an iPhone with a 5in as well. I didn't know that was innovative? I still don't understand why you have not got all those phones that are so much better. And to say you would get rid of iPads & iPad mini's? Really, one inch would do all that for you?
Why do you want Apple to make your phone when HTC & Samsung have what you want already? Makes no sense to me, I'm happy with the featureless iPhone! Sounds like you own one too, strange, you don't like it, and as you say have the means of getting a new phone every year. Why don't you just get what you want and let Apple do as they do. I still don't get that one inch on screen size would make you give up everything else, that just blows me away??? So why have you not bought a Samsung Galaxy?;
You have it all figured out and the competition has what you want so why don't you buy it??? You said you have the means to, so why have you not got the 5in Samsung for your big hands??? I'm fine with 4in. and I think I might get an iPhone with a 5in as well. I didn't know that was innovative? I still don't understand why you have not got all those phones that are so much better. And to say you would get rid of iPads & iPad mini's? Really, one inch would do all that for you?
Why do you want Apple to make your phone when HTC & Samsung have what you want already? Makes no sense to me, I'm happy with the featureless iPhone! Sounds like you own one too, strange, you don't like it, and as you say have the means of getting a new phone every year. Why don't you just get what you want and let Apple do as they do. I still don't get that one inch on screen size would make you give up everything else, that just blows me away??? So why have you not bought a Samsung Galaxy?;
You don't read very well do you? I didn't realize that the Galaxy ran a full version of OSX, had a 6" screen, had touch screen on the back, had integration with all of my other Apple devices, a re-worked iOS notification screen, a full day battery. Not to mention I put down Samsung. You read my top paragraph saw 5-6" in my next paragraph and then just automatically think you'd take a shot at what I said?
He asked for specific details as to what people want in their next iPhone so I threw my ideas out there. I'm sorry you are seem so offended that people can afford yearly iterations. Yes a 6" screen would be fine for me to get rid of my iPads. My MacBook Air takes up roughly the same space as my iPad if I need something that needs a bigger screen.
I'm happy for you that 4" is fine for you. Judging by a lot of comments in this thread, and the fact that Samsung seems to have picked up speed and is steamrolling the smartphone market. The average consumer prefers more screen real estate as well.
Why would I "have got all those phones that are so much better."? Why would I need a stack of phones? Where did I say there are all these better phones? You infer too much. Between your wording and pulling comments I said out of thin air you look ignorant.
Next time you want to try to pick apart someone's post you should read it first. If the S4 does infact have everything I listed that I want in the next iPhone I will run right out and buy it this instant. You know, seeing as though it must be out according to you. I'm extremely surprised it is running an iOS/OSX hybrid and integrates with all my other Apple devices. Thank you for opening my eyes.
I'd love to use mine naked, but I get the antennae bridging problem. It's still an attractive phone, but it doesn't work properly without a case and it looks fat compared to the 5
Please read my post more carefully and the post to which it was responding. I never said this is a consideration for buying a phone -- I was merely making a point in response to a post that Apple is doomed - which is clearly hyperbole.
I also never dissed Samsung with respect to its size and other industrial efforts.
However, with respect to phones and mobile devices - the value and user differentiation is mostly tied to the software stack - on which Samsung depends on Google. That is a weakness if Google decides that Samsung is a threat to their Android ecosystem. That was my point - not what you presented in your post.
Thanks for the xda link.
However, I have to disagree on Android 4.2.2. On my Galaxy Nexus, 4.2.2 has made what I think is noticeable difference in terms of smoothness: transitions between screens are iOS smooth now
Smoothness is not a problem on the HTC One. Take a look at the video reviews.
Are you offended?
No offense was taken, I just read your post (completely) and that's how I, and a few of us understood it. A couple of friends were with me when I read it.
I buy a new iPhone every year but don't feel the need to tell people I can, I never said I couldn't afford one, I pointed out how you wanted to let people know you could afford one every year. I do get one every year and find Apple to be the best and don't whine that it doesn't have everything under the sun. And to use your words "you must have not read my post" as I clearly stated I would buy a 5in screen if Apple does in fact bring one out. I also went on to say when I need more real estate I used my iPad. I get one of those every time they come out with a new model, just in case you wanted to insinuate people are jealous you could afford it. I just pointed out I use my iPad when I need more real estate.
I pointed out that you clearly insinuated iPhone was behind on all the features you wanted, I went on to say the competition has caught up and that's good for consumers. That would imply there is other choices out there and keeps moving the bar up!
I don't believe I stated that you liked or wanted a Samsung, it sounded as if you were saying Apple was behind the times and that Samsung and HTC etc. were bigger with more features. I was just pointing that out, and it sure sounded like that's what you were saying! Forgive me that I didn't get that right, I'm truly sorry! I didn't realize you were talking up Apple by pointing everything out they don't have. Oops, got it wrong, you were just answering a question about what features you want on the next iPhone. I'm sorry, I must have not read where you said the iPhone was a good and you just wanted a few more features and bigger screen size.
I never "inferred" that Samsung or HTC had a complete OS/iOS or a screen on the back. I guess we're both guilty of the same "infer to much"! It just sounded like you had it figured out? I was wrong, I'm truly sorry for that as well.
I guess you're an Apple fan & giving some suggestions of things you would like to see on the iPhone?
Maybe it's the quality, C.S. and that iPhones are just very well built and have a complete Ecosystem that works extremely well! All my Apple products run together smoothly! Apple's OS's are very intuitive & very fluid . I think that's why a lot of people are willing to lose a few features & real estate, it's to keep a great product in their hands and not deal with inconsistent crap.
But if Samsung HTC or other's that have the screen size's you want why have you not bought one or what phone do you use at present time? Do you have an iPhone 5 and do you like it? Just curious.
You're welcome for opening your eyes, it was my pleasure!
And thank you for putting me in place.
I should have never "picked apart" your post without reading it, SHAME ON ME!
Please except my apologies!!!
Looking forward to the new iPhone 5S. I'm sure it's going to be great, even if its just an updated 5.
No offense was taken, I just read your post (completely) and that's how I, and a few of us understood it. A couple of friends were with me when I read it.
I buy a new iPhone every year but don't feel the need to tell people I can, I never said I couldn't afford one, I pointed out how you wanted to let people know you could afford one every year. I do get one every year and find Apple to be the best and don't whine that it doesn't have everything under the sun. And to use your words "you must have not read my post" as I clearly stated I would buy a 5in screen if Apple does in fact bring one out. I also went on to say when I need more real estate I used my iPad. I get one of those every time they come out with a new model, just in case you wanted to insinuate people are jealous you could afford it. I just pointed out I use my iPad when I need more real estate.
I pointed out that you clearly insinuated iPhone was behind on all the features you wanted, I went on to say the competition has caught up and that's good for consumers. That would imply there is other choices out there and keeps moving the bar up!
I don't believe I stated that you liked or wanted a Samsung, it sounded as if you were saying Apple was behind the times and that Samsung and HTC etc. were bigger with more features. I was just pointing that out, and it sure sounded like that's what you were saying! Forgive me that I didn't get that right, I'm truly sorry! I didn't realize you were talking up Apple by pointing everything out they don't have. Oops, got it wrong, you were just answering a question about what features you want on the next iPhone. I'm sorry, I must have not read where you said the iPhone was a good and you just wanted a few more features and bigger screen size.
I never "inferred" that Samsung or HTC had a complete OS/iOS or a screen on the back. I guess we're both guilty of the same "infer to much"! It just sounded like you had it figured out? I was wrong, I'm truly sorry for that as well.
I guess you're an Apple fan & giving some suggestions of things you would like to see on the iPhone?
Maybe it's the quality, C.S. and that iPhones are just very well built and have a complete Ecosystem that works extremely well! All my Apple products run together smoothly! Apple's OS's are very intuitive & very fluid . I think that's why a lot of people are willing to lose a few features & real estate, it's to keep a great product in their hands and not deal with inconsistent crap.
But if Samsung HTC or other's that have the screen size's you want why have you not bought one or what phone do you use at present time? Do you have an iPhone 5 and do you like it? Just curious.
You're welcome for opening your eyes, it was my pleasure!
And thank you for putting me in place.
I should have never "picked apart" your post without reading it, SHAME ON ME!
Please except my apologies!!!
Looking forward to the new iPhone 5S. I'm sure it's going to be great, even if its just an updated 5.
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I'm still hopeful that Tim Cook saying they're not taking the breaks off, then updating the iPad after 6 months, means that an incremental upgrade like 5S would happen after 6 months, i.e. this month or next.
Rumours had the 5S already in production.
My hopes feel supported.
6 monthly updates, please, Apple.
Rumours had the 5S already in production.
My hopes feel supported.
6 monthly updates, please, Apple.
I would love this as well, I would like getting a mid year update of the S type models.
Then maybe a little or big design change. I really like software updates, they always add some cool new things.
But I'm with you all the way on this.
Wait, I am confused here. Why the hell are you reading/posting in the 5S thread? The 5S doesnt exsist yet
I think I might join an android rumours site, cause it seems like no-one on this site actually likes apple, I'm sure if I went on an android site it would be full of people complaining about android comparing it to apple!
Anyway, I don't understand why people expect each iteration to be the next big thing, look at all the apple product lines, MacBook Pro, until the retinMbp it pretty much just upgraded internals, look at the iPod, did the factor form really change a huge amount between 1 st gen and the latest! Sure they all got tweaks, but that's what apple does, it's hard to make a good product even better but they manage it! I like Apple cause it doesn't completely redesign everything each time it updates! The iPhone doesn't need to be reinvented, I'm sure apple will release a new product (iwatch?) and the iPhone will just get updates like all there other lines. And that's the way I like it!
Anyway, I don't understand why people expect each iteration to be the next big thing, look at all the apple product lines, MacBook Pro, until the retinMbp it pretty much just upgraded internals, look at the iPod, did the factor form really change a huge amount between 1 st gen and the latest! Sure they all got tweaks, but that's what apple does, it's hard to make a good product even better but they manage it! I like Apple cause it doesn't completely redesign everything each time it updates! The iPhone doesn't need to be reinvented, I'm sure apple will release a new product (iwatch?) and the iPhone will just get updates like all there other lines. And that's the way I like it!
I'd love to use mine naked, but I get the antennae bridging problem. It's still an attractive phone, but it doesn't work properly without a case and it looks fat compared to the 5
It looks fat compared to just about any modern smartphone. Brick-like, in fact.
Squared off, eight corners, ninety degree angles. Just like the old Devo song.
But the tiny tiny screen is what really makes it look silly.
The new iPhone will not receive a major upgrade and may just be a slightly enhanced version of iPhone 5 (iPhone 5S), the sources said citing their latest specification data.
Why bother to even release this phone. How stupid do you think we are? Take a back seat Apple to the Samsungs of the world who are really innovating.
haha I agree.. Some people are really dumb and will buy the latest iphone even if it's pretty much the same as the previous. When people wake up and realise it's basically the same then Apple will start pushing innovation again.
Opening my eyes? Not quite. Also again you pretty much end with why don't I switch because the screen size. Once again pretty much skimming rather than reading and processing what I have reiterated over and over on multiple posts. I haven't switched because I'm stuck in the walled garden because of the integration between all my Apple devices.
Demo'd the iPhone 5, was left unimpressed. I like having my phones naked and when I had the iPhone 5 it was prone to chips and scratches and didn't do it for me. The improvement in screen being a little taller without being wider was meh. Speed wise I was convinced it performed any better.
You are welcome for me pointing out your lack of reading comprehension skills. You are welcome for being put in your place. Your apologies are accepted. Next time we will work on helping you form paragraphs rather than large text blocks that are a pain to read.
How so many Apple users can deny or ignore the depth & breadth of Samsung is a true reflection of a narrow mindset. It serves no purpose, unless of course it's an ego booster to those who practice denial.
Insults
First off weasel I didn't know we were in school so if you don't like how I write it, don't read it!
If you want to trade insults I can do that too! You write BS and when some one points it out you have to revert to insulting personally. My grammar and my reading skills, really? That's how you express your opinion when someone disagree's with what you write or say, you throw out personal insults? You're a real weasel, obviously a little geek that can't defend himself without trying to insult people with something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand!
You don't read your ********, or you would know, you stated I opened your eyes! I just repeated it and you made it sound as if I was trying say I opened your eyes. People like you cant open their eyes, they're swollen shut from someone who didn't like your little weasel attitude.
So if your next reply is going to imply you got under my skin, you would be correct! So don't waste your great writing skills and grammar telling me about how I can't read or write, save it for class. I'm to old to go back to school sorry, nor did I ever care for it, I didn't like high school or college but I finished both, writing with block text and not reading stupid little punks nonsense.
It's clear to me you have never had a good ass kicking yet, or you wouldn't resort to chicken **** personal insults! That's how people get their teeth knocked out. It'll happen one day to you! That's how people get humbled! You'll say the wrong thing to the wrong person, I learned that at a very young age and my father warned me! So I learned humility when talking or having an opinion and a disagreement with somebody. If you have to go to personal attacks to make yourself feel superior you're really just a punk!
But when somebody goes after me personally the subject at hand is lost because you really don't have any good points to make!
I can go all day long with insults, and I don't even know you. But I hope that's not what you want to do? I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it! Your writing says it all through out it, you feel that you are smarter then everybody??? You're just a arrogant little punk, that probably has been picked on all through school. Is reading & grammar insults what makes you feel good!
I've been on Mac Rumors a long time and never have seen people engage in writing skills and grammar insults! No one ever had to insult me about writing & grammar skills when they couldn't make any valid points.
I like Apple and I'm sorry that offends your ego when someone thinks what you write is garbage! And yes, you offended me when you brought your so called superior writing skills into the mix and wanted to try to make yourself look educated by putting my reading, grammar & writing skills down! If you were educated you wouldn't feel the need to bring that into a discussion forum about Apple products & rumors!
I thought this sight was for people who wanted to discuss rumors about Apple stuff not reading and writing skills!
Oh, ya would you like the iPhone to poddy train you too? Maybe some of the other smart phones as well?
You sure have a lot of ****** ideas for Apple, I'm glad you're not brain storming for Apple in a think tank!
When a person like you thinks that's where it should stay! When you try and make your insecurities go away by speaking those thoughts it makes people sick! So keep your little punk putts ass comments about peoples reading and writing skills in your weasel head! Keep on the subject if your so smart little head can. Take this however you want, but if you are a smart person you will think twice before you take shots at people's intelligence!!! Trust me, you need to learn this and your swollen eyes just might open and see the light! Don't get personal you little weasel twit! Yes, I do live what by what I'm saying, unless some little tiny mouth pops off to the wrong person!!!
First off weasel I didn't know we were in school so if you don't like how I write it, don't read it!
If you want to trade insults I can do that too! You write BS and when some one points it out you have to revert to insulting personally. My grammar and my reading skills, really? That's how you express your opinion when someone disagree's with what you write or say, you throw out personal insults? You're a real weasel, obviously a little geek that can't defend himself without trying to insult people with something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand!
You don't read your ********, or you would know, you stated I opened your eyes! I just repeated it and you made it sound as if I was trying say I opened your eyes. People like you cant open their eyes, they're swollen shut from someone who didn't like your little weasel attitude.
So if your next reply is going to imply you got under my skin, you would be correct! So don't waste your great writing skills and grammar telling me about how I can't read or write, save it for class. I'm to old to go back to school sorry, nor did I ever care for it, I didn't like high school or college but I finished both, writing with block text and not reading stupid little punks nonsense.
It's clear to me you have never had a good ass kicking yet, or you wouldn't resort to chicken **** personal insults! That's how people get their teeth knocked out. It'll happen one day to you! That's how people get humbled! You'll say the wrong thing to the wrong person, I learned that at a very young age and my father warned me! So I learned humility when talking or having an opinion and a disagreement with somebody. If you have to go to personal attacks to make yourself feel superior you're really just a punk!
But when somebody goes after me personally the subject at hand is lost because you really don't have any good points to make!
I can go all day long with insults, and I don't even know you. But I hope that's not what you want to do? I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it! Your writing says it all through out it, you feel that you are smarter then everybody??? You're just a arrogant little punk, that probably has been picked on all through school. Is reading & grammar insults what makes you feel good!
I've been on Mac Rumors a long time and never have seen people engage in writing skills and grammar insults! No one ever had to insult me about writing & grammar skills when they couldn't make any valid points.
I like Apple and I'm sorry that offends your ego when someone thinks what you write is garbage! And yes, you offended me when you brought your so called superior writing skills into the mix and wanted to try to make yourself look educated by putting my reading, grammar & writing skills down! If you were educated you wouldn't feel the need to bring that into a discussion forum about Apple products & rumors!
I thought this sight was for people who wanted to discuss rumors about Apple stuff not reading and writing skills!
Oh, ya would you like the iPhone to poddy train you too? Maybe some of the other smart phones as well?
You sure have a lot of ****** ideas for Apple, I'm glad you're not brain storming for Apple in a think tank!
When a person like you thinks that's where it should stay! When you try and make your insecurities go away by speaking those thoughts it makes people sick! So keep your little punk putts ass comments about peoples reading and writing skills in your weasel head! Keep on the subject if your so smart little head can. Take this however you want, but if you are a smart person you will think twice before you take shots at people's intelligence!!! Trust me, you need to learn this and your swollen eyes just might open and see the light! Don't get personal you little weasel twit! Yes, I do live what by what I'm saying, unless some little tiny mouth pops off to the wrong person!!!
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Really?? Thanks for the info.
HEY GUYS. If you ever need info on what each iPhone generation looked like and what they were called, ask komodrome. He has about 5 posts trying to enlighten us on the topic.
This isn't even WRONG - it's just ridiculous.
The trolls have really taken over while I've been gone.
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I can already imagine your head exploding. So what? The level of conversation around here makes the QVC channel seem like higher education - Mamma should turn off the teevee and make you scamps help around the house.
skipping the S line from now on. Can't believe I did that with the 4-4s-5. Lost alot of money with that
I have no problem with the hardware of the 5. It's beautiful.
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the hardware. The hardware is fine. I think iOS is beginning to let the iPhone down.
Yeah, I know. I broke out my 4 the other day, and this lady screamed "awww, what an itty bitty phone! how cute"! I had to explain to her that it's not the size of the phone that counts, but the user experience.