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That is interesting, considering the fact that the iPad mini and Air (with weaker internals) seemingly don't have any problems driving even more pixels than the iPhone 6+.

Either the Verge guys should have their eyes checked, or it' might be simply a software optimization problem that will be ironed out.

As for me, I'm waiting for the 6S with presumably killer hardware. :cool: I went with the "tick" with my iP4 and iP5, this time (since my iP5 functions perfectly and I don't feel the need for an upgrade) I'll try the "tock". :rolleyes:
Lag is most likely just ios 8. I think it will improve with the .1 update or 8.0.1
 
That is still an area where Apple lacks experience, and it's not necessarily the most profitable link in the chain. It seems counter to their previous strategies.

You kidding? Apple loves having complete control of their manufacturing, from the original Apple's to the Mac Pro, as well as things like their own CPU designs.

Plus, they'd probably make a gilded, glass-cubed fab as well, just for the hell of it.
 
Lag is most likely just ios 8. I think it will improve with the .1 update or 8.0.1

Yep. I am noticing a LOT of issues on my 6 Plus, where the screen is sometimes completely unresponsive for several seconds, and quite a few other bugs that are most definitely related to iOS 8.
 
Bigger than bigger

Yep. I am noticing a LOT of issues on my 6 Plus, where the screen is sometimes completely unresponsive for several seconds, and quite a few other bugs that are most definitely related to iOS 8.
Did you notice it being way too big? :confused: I'm sure that's an hardware issue.
 
No matter, I wasn't interested in carrying an iPad mini in my pocket anyway.

I'm sending back my 6 Plus, because apparently, they sent me a wrong product. Everyone keeps saying how it is so huge or even an iPad Mini replacement. Today, I had it in my chest pocket most of the time, hardly noticing that it was there. I can easily hold it in one hand, even use it with one hand for the most common activities (without even using reachability). When I wrap my hand around it, my thumb and middle finger are less than one inch apart (and I do not have giant hands). "Wrapping my hand around it" is not a sentence I have ever used when describing the iPad Mini.

So, Apple, where is the real 6 Plus? Where is that unwieldy tablet phone that people keep talking about? That's what I ordered!
 
Did you notice it being way too big? :confused: I'm sure that's an hardware issue.

No, actually, I did not notice it being way too big. Might be related to the fact that I don't have freakishly small hands though. :cool: Or like I just wrote in another post, I have a feeling that Apple sent me the wrong product, because I didn't find that gigantically huge phone that everyone keeps talking about in my 6 Plus box.
 
Actually concerns me. Despite the hate on these forums, Samsung is really good at what they do. Hopefully no logic board failures down the road.

TSMC doesn't build fridges, hoovers, TVs and the like. They don't build any of the things that you see and can buy in a shop. TSMC builds the stuff that you don't see. TSMC builds semiconductors. TSMC is _the_ company to go to if you want semiconductors. Compared to TSMC, Samsung are amateurs in semiconductors.

I'm so glad it has a 20 nanometer processor! This is so helpful! Who needs more than 1Gb of RAM when you can have 20 nanometers! Right? :D

Exactly. Significantly more speed. Significantly less power, meaning longer battery life. That's what we want. Nobody sees the RAM. Everybody will notice the battery lasting longer. PLUS it's TSMC and not Samsung (see above).
 
That's a shame.
That's a dam shame.

Common sense would have told you, they would have tweaked the 6+ Internals to give the exact same, as near as they can speed.

As we keep hearing Apple want, above all else to give the same experience.

Not a bit laggy on the most expensive flagship model. :(

I trust the Verge's reviews THE LEAST of all people who review things. So, you should wait before concluding anything. The GPU and CPU on the 6+ is better than on the Air, so not sure WHY it would lag.
 
It's fast all right. Then launch Safari, open a few sites~maybe six windows. The RAM drops to 16MB free.

Go to another app and iOS purges the cached pages. Go back to Safari and the pages have to re-load. This is obviously a problem when finding a page on LTE and then calling someone, switching back to the page and - NOPE!

Sorry but why would you have 6+ tabs open at the same time?
 
Apple really could, and probably should, buy out TSMC at this point, if they want to do the whole vertical integration thing..

Heck no. Apple will be expanding to use Samsung/GloFo 14nm FinFET/20nm LP thus expanding their capacities.

Buying a Fab for tens of billions is a money pit.
 
and at a much lower clock rate. Very impressive kit this chip is.

Two min benchmarks would not truly show this beast's strength, but do something like a demo of a FPS game and you'll see other phone weep after a few minutes... No Throttling (because of low clock) and 20nm is a quasi revolution.
 
Sorry but why would you have 6+ tabs open at the same time?
Because... the internet? It's huge. Even bigger than an iPhone 6 Plus. :mad:

I have a feeling that Apple sent me the wrong product, because I didn't find that gigantically huge phone that everyone keeps talking about in my 6 Plus box.
Count the speaker grill holes. Are there more than six? So it's an 6+. :eek:
 
Will there really only be one generation at the 20-N size? Are they really going to get down to 14-N next year?
I have no idea about this stuff, but it certainly seems impressive.

I thought quantum tunnelling was in effect at 20nm and gets much worse from here on out. I wonder if there is going to be many more times they can go down in size before the laws of normal physics give way to the odd phenomenon of the super small? Considering the lack of benefits of more powerful SOCs, i'd rather see more power efficient chips for phones instead.
 
No Samsung parts in i6

Fandroids hav always said there can never be an iPhone without Samsung. If you check out the couple of benchmarks by Cnet, the new iPhone performs 2x better than all Android phones with quad core processors.
 
Yep. I am noticing a LOT of issues on my 6 Plus, where the screen is sometimes completely unresponsive for several seconds, and quite a few other bugs that are most definitely related to iOS 8.

I've noticed this A LOT since updating my 5 to iOS 8 GM.
 
TSMC doesn't build fridges, hoovers, TVs and the like. They don't build any of the things that you see and can buy in a shop. TSMC builds the stuff that you don't see. TSMC builds semiconductors. TSMC is _the_ company to go to if you want semiconductors. Compared to TSMC, Samsung are amateurs in semiconductors.

Really? I've been in the Semiconductor business for quite a while and Samsung is no amateur. They bought and refurbed a fab in Austin to service Apple. Samsung has been in the memory game for a loooooong time. Just because they aren't a commercial fab for most companies means nothing. Intel is not a commercial fab but calling them amateurs would be a mistake. IBM doesn't have a huge commercial presence but they are/were one of the largest semi manufacturers in the world.

Samsung makes displays, memories, processors for Apple and their own Exynos (sp?) processors for the international market.

Not amateurs by any stretch of the imagination.
Which is why Apple is eyeing 14nm FinFET from Samsung.

Exactly. Significantly more speed. Significantly less power, meaning longer battery life. That's what we want. Nobody sees the RAM. Everybody will notice the battery lasting longer. PLUS it's TSMC and not Samsung (see above).

20nm does not guarantee less power. Smaller geometries have more power consumption while static (leakage) and depending on the cells used HVT, LVT, etc., you could consume more power if you want to go faster.
 
Yep. I am noticing a LOT of issues on my 6 Plus, where the screen is sometimes completely unresponsive for several seconds, and quite a few other bugs that are most definitely related to iOS 8.

noticing it on the 4s and some were attributing it to the 4s hardware and some of it may be but I've found today that 8 is pretty nice, I just reboot the phone and every things good, so yeah 8XX should be even better!
 
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