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"We conducted a survey of 1,004 US consumers. Of those looking to purchase a smartphone in the next three months..."

The number of US consumers looking to purchase a smartphone In the next 3 months is maybe 10-15% of the population (assuming a 2 year upgrade cycle it would be be 12.5% and a lot of people don't have smartphones). In all likelihood this survey is of no more than 200 people that actually fit in to the sample population (people looking to purchase a smartphone in the next 3 months) which makes a 3% change (and probably the whole survey) statistically insignificant to estimate anything for the entire US population.

Using a statistical calculator we find that to get a relative sample size for the US population (assuming 350 million), with a 95% confidence level and a margin of error of 3% the sample size is correct.
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Yeah surprised me I was ready for my AT&T next upgrade so I ordered a 128gb Silver Plus on the Sixteenth and I had it in my hands on the 22nd, I was expecting to wait till the middle of Jan at least.

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I'd much rather have a larger screen than Touch ID, AP, or 64-bit. I probably would've considered an Iph6 if it was available back in Nov. 2013, but sprung for an Samsung Galaxy s4 instead. I kind of like it this way, as my Ipod Touch 5 is my gaming device, while my gs4 does everything without having battery being sucked down by all that gaming.

just as well too as battery life on the gs4 blows monkey chunks I know I had one terrible
 
just as well too as battery life on the gs4 blows monkey chunks I know I had one terrible

I think it could be better, but I've had it last nearly all day without a charge before, using heavier email and internet, but no video, and light gaming. And yeah, playing a new game on there... alarming how it goes down 10% at a time, although my Ipod Touch 5 goes down alarmingly quickly too when it's used for gaming!


I wonder where Samsung got the idea of a large screen from?

http://youtu.be/ftf4riVJyqw?t=6m25s
I remember reading someone asked Steve Jobs if he could design a phone back around early 2000s. He saw the guy had a Palm Treo 600. Jobs laughed and said he should probably just stick with his Treo. Little did we know, that's probably one thing that got the ball rolling.


What I love is whenever Apple Pay is mentioned, someone brings up Google Wallet.

Before September 2014, no one who said "Android is better than iPhone" mentioned Google Wallet as a feature. It didn't occur to them to do so. Suddenly now it's really important. :rolleyes:
Well, to be fair, the iOS crowd has often dismissed NFC when And had it, saying who needs it? :)
 
I wonder where Samsung got the idea of a large screen from?

http://youtu.be/ftf4riVJyqw?t=6m25s

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I wonder where Apple got the idea of a mostly screen device...

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However, I can believe that demand is still strong. The iPhone6 is a beautifull device. in person, those bands really aren't that noticable. And the camera bump is pretty much standard when it comes to every smartphone manufacturer. it's a byproduct of physics.
 
I'm still s frustrated iPhone user. I actually WANT a 4" iPhone 6. Yes, imagine that! Many of my friends are the same way. The sales will be even higher when Apple releases an iPhone 6 jr.

The pundits are forecasting a new 2015 low budget 4" iPhone Mini that has an A7, 8GB, 326 ppi, model in white and black only and will use the chassis of the 5C. No NFC chip for Apple Pay and no Touch ID. Retail around $450 without contract and 2 year contract is "0" down model.

So you should get the 5S now since it the much better model then the 2015 iPhone Mini! Or buy it in August before it gets discontinued! Some U.S. carriers are selling the 5S for "0" down with a two year contract! So if you want a mid-tier iPhone; here your chance at a 5S at a discount! Only 16GB model however. No discount for the 32GB 5S.
 
Using a statistical calculator we find that to get a relative sample size for the US population (assuming 350 million), with a 95% confidence level and a margin of error of 3% the sample size is correct.
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That'S true if your sampling is representative of the population and stat you want to determine. That's actually the difficult part of polling (getting more difficult these days). Its very easy to skew results by a biased sampling or questions (see most issue polls... ;-) Polling can be scientific if we want it.. But, not everyone seemingly wants it ;-).

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I think it could be better, but I've had it last nearly all day without a charge before, using heavier email and internet, but no video, and light gaming. And yeah, playing a new game on there... alarming how it goes down 10% at a time, although my Ipod Touch 5 goes down alarmingly quickly too when it's used for gaming!


I remember reading someone asked Steve Jobs if he could design a phone back around early 2000s. He saw the guy had a Palm Treo 600. Jobs laughed and said he should probably just stick with his Treo. Little did we know, that's probably one thing that got the ball rolling.


Well, to be fair, the iOS crowd has often dismissed NFC when And had it, saying who needs it? :)

Though NFC is NOT what distinguishes Apple Pay at all. It secures the backend and frontend through hardware and software. Blue-tooth could in theory could have been used as a transport, but would be going in front of the industry (blue-tooth payment could probably exist one day since it is now pretty low power... ).
 
"We conducted a survey of 1,004 US consumers. Of those looking to purchase a smartphone in the next three months..."

The number of US consumers looking to purchase a smartphone In the next 3 months is maybe 10-15% of the population (assuming a 2 year upgrade cycle it would be be 12.5% and a lot of people don't have smartphones). In all likelihood this survey is of no more than 200 people that actually fit in to the sample population (people looking to purchase a smartphone in the next 3 months) which makes a 3% change (and probably the whole survey) statistically insignificant to estimate anything for the entire US population.

It isn't trying to estimate anything for the entire nation, just those looking to buy a new phone.
 
Though NFC is NOT what distinguishes Apple Pay at all. It secures the backend and frontend through hardware and software. Blue-tooth could in theory could have been used as a transport, but would be going in front of the industry (blue-tooth payment could probably exist one day since it is now pretty low power... ).
True. However, there's still no Apple Pay without NFC.
 
Well, to be fair, the iOS crowd has often dismissed NFC when And had it, saying who needs it? :)

Yes, because people boasted about NFC for the sake of it. They didn't say 'my phone can do x which the iPhone cant' they just said 'my phone has NFC and yours doesn't!'

AirDrop, iBeacons etc don't require NFC.

Apple pay requires NFC + secure element + Touch ID, so the iPhone 6 comes equipt with these.

Before Apple Pay was mentioned at the keynote, no one mentioned NFC when discussing the iPhone 6. It's not listed as a feature on Apple's website, instead its burried on the tech specs page.

And, as was my original point, in boasting about the joys of an NFC chip in their phone, not one Android user pointed out their phone could make NFC payments. Or replace their credit card.
 
The pundits are forecasting a new 2015 low budget 4" iPhone Mini that has an A7, 8GB, 326 ppi, model in white and black only and will use the chassis of the 5C. No NFC chip for Apple Pay and no Touch ID. Retail around $450 without contract and 2 year contract is "0" down model.

I completely disagree. What we'll see is something that looks like the iPhone 6, but built around a smaller case to accommodate the smaller 4" screen. It will keep NFC and Touch ID functionality, since adding it adds very little to the cost of the phone. And it will use a lower power consumption A8 SoC and still have 1 GB of RAM, but the rear image sensor will be limited to five megapixels. In short think of it as the equivalent of an iPhone 6 mini.
 
Well, to be fair, the iOS crowd has often dismissed NFC when And had it, saying who needs it? :)

To be even more fair (and even more accurate)

I think you will find the iOS Crowd have generally dismissed anything that Apple does not have, until they have it.

Remember no one wants a larger than 4" phone, and last year Apple even did a video showing you how 4" was the perfect size.

Just like now the Microsoft surface, a full OS on a tablet is a stupid idea.
Until Apple do it :)
 
I completely disagree. What we'll see is something that looks like the iPhone 6, but built around a smaller case to accommodate the smaller 4" screen. It will keep NFC and Touch ID functionality, since adding it adds very little to the cost of the phone. And it will use a lower power consumption A8 SoC and still have 1 GB of RAM, but the rear image sensor will be limited to five megapixels. In short think of it as the equivalent of an iPhone 6 mini.

The A9 is a 14 nm SoC! It will use 30% less then that of the A8 because of it thinnest.

The NFC Chip and Touch ID is costly! Look at how much Apple charges to replace the Touch ID module! The NFC is a special proprietary design that stores the Apple Pay ID inside the chip!
 
Small sample size is small. Millions buy the iPhone every year. 1004 random people give almost zero worthwhile data.

You need to spend some time studying the methodologies and science behind gathering statistics and polling data. If it's sufficiently random and scientifically gathered, it's astonishing how accurate a seemingly small sample size can be.
 
Small sample

Small sample size is small. Millions buy the iPhone every year. 1004 random people give almost zero worthwhile data.

Uh, if you're going to make the assertion that the sample size is too small, at least back that up with some valid statistical reasoning.
 
To be even more fair (and even more accurate)

I think you will find the iOS Crowd have generally dismissed anything that Apple does not have, until they have it.

Remember no one wants a larger than 4" phone, and last year Apple even did a video showing you how 4" was the perfect size.

Just like now the Microsoft surface, a full OS on a tablet is a stupid idea.
Until Apple do it :)
Needs and tastes change over the time.
And a 2012 choice (4" display) could be changed in 2014. I can't see anything wrong in that, and Apple sales are the demonstration they are doing just right.
 
Needs and tastes change over the time.
And a 2012 choice (4" display) could be changed in 2014. I can't see anything wrong in that, and Apple sales are the demonstration they are doing just right.

So, you are saying that if Apple had stuck to a 4" phone, no one would of bought it, as their tastes had changed?

Or are you saying Apple makes something new, then, upon seeing this, Apple folks tastes then change?

So, At the moment, the concept of the Surface Pro. A tablet running a full OS is being criticised on these forums as being the wrong thing do do,

When Apple release their tablet, with a full OS, then instantly Apple fans tastes will change, and then such a device will be deemed correct?
 
So, you are saying that if Apple had stuck to a 4" phone, no one would of bought it, as their tastes had changed?

Or are you saying Apple makes something new, then, upon seeing this, Apple folks tastes then change?

So, At the moment, the concept of the Surface Pro. A tablet running a full OS is being criticised on these forums as being the wrong thing do do,

When Apple release their tablet, with a full OS, then instantly Apple fans tastes will change, and then such a device will be deemed correct?

It is criticized because the first iterations of surface (with Win 8), were total CRAP! and sales reflected that. MS lost a bundle. Now, its slowly improving at least on the laptop end of things and not mucking up too much the tablet part (compared to before). So, it is starting to be interesting for certain types of use case (mostly those who need tablets occasionally).

In the current state of tech, it could possibly be interesting for Apple to do an hybrid, but not 2-3 years ago.
 
48 hours of battery life

I also don't get why Apple only improved battery life for their MacBook Pros/Airs during the last product cycles.

iOS devices keep getting slimmer and more powerful to the extreme, but we surely need an improvement out here too.
 
To be even more fair (and even more accurate)

I think you will find the iOS Crowd have generally dismissed anything that Apple does not have, until they have it.

Remember no one wants a larger than 4" phone, and last year Apple even did a video showing you how 4" was the perfect size.

Just like now the Microsoft surface, a full OS on a tablet is a stupid idea.
Until Apple do it :)
Ditto with the Ipad Mini. I've ran into quite a few people in person, as well as many saying online how the Iphone screen is too small for reading (back when 4" was all they had to work with), but the Ipad is just too big to carry around. For all of those folks, you had others who said they're crazy... Iphone 4" is the perfect size, the Ipad's also great! Just carry both if you need a balance of the 2! When the Ipad Mini came out, one person I ran into said it was an instant buy. She wished it had Retina (which was the correct thing to do on Apple's part, leaving it for the IpadM2, to make more $$ that way), but this works well for reading, and she can fit it into her pocket book which is of the more "girly-sized" variety (I guess unlike mothers who have those oversized ones to put a diaper in, snacks, gameboys, etc.).

AFAIK, some of the tech rumors were what are now the Ip6 and Iph6p would've cannibalized sales of the Ipad Mini, which was why it came out that much later. I agree with the counterarguments that the Ipad Mini was the worst bang for the buck. If you can afford to pay just $100 or so more, and can deal with the larger size, then an Ipad's certainly the way to go.

And then I recall comments on Cnet how the Iph5s is the perfect size to read emails and browse the web. If he needs something bigger, he'll just use his Ipad for games, and heavier internet use :rolleyes: So this statement here says 1) there IS indeed an interest for larger phones, and 2) folks would like to avoid having to carry around 2 devices with them, as they'd like to do gaming with the appropriate sized screen without the Ipad.

Needs and tastes change over the time.
And a 2012 choice (4" display) could be changed in 2014. I can't see anything wrong in that, and Apple sales are the demonstration they are doing just right.
They do. I'm not necessarily criticizing Apple for changing. The point was directed at roughly half of the iOS fans who kept parroting that a 4" display was perfect because you can use it one-handed (in portrait mode, but otherwise true). In the meantime, you had a growing # of iOS users who were clamoring for larger screens. I've met some in person, as well as heard of many online that switched to Android because there wasn't a phone with a 4.5" to 5.5" display otherwise.

So, you are saying that if Apple had stuck to a 4" phone, no one would of bought it, as their tastes had changed?

Or are you saying Apple makes something new, then, upon seeing this, Apple folks tastes then change?
Well, that's sort of been the tradeoff with iOS... they don't have a vast selection of products. Much better for developers and those who don't like to wade through dozens and dozens of products. OTOH, there isn't much choice either. My observations were those who liked the 4" screen of course got that. Some of the 4" naysayers either sucked it up and got it because they wanted to stay with the Apple ecosystem, waited for as long as possible for a new, larger Iphone, or switched to Android.

So, At the moment, the concept of the Surface Pro. A tablet running a full OS is being criticised on these forums as being the wrong thing do do,

When Apple release their tablet, with a full OS, then instantly Apple fans tastes will change, and then such a device will be deemed correct?
I'm not even sure if the SP1 came out before the Ipad1. If it did, and it was a flop, then I'm giving pts to Apple not for being first, but doing it "correctly", or at least in a way that's more usable than whatever the SP1 turned out to be.
 
Using a statistical calculator we find that to get a relative sample size for the US population (assuming 350 million), with a 95% confidence level and a margin of error of 3% the sample size is correct.
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Yeah, but I'm not sure that there were 1,000 folks in that survey who were going to buy a smartphone in the next three months. I think they just surveyed these folks and of the subset who are going to buy a smartphone soon, they think they will buy an iPhone.
But this indicates that the android phones aren't capturing as much mind share as they used to.
 
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