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iPhone 6 Rear Camera to Retain 8-Megapixel Sensor, Offer Improved Image Stabilization?
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I never desired a better camera. It's seriously good enough. Give me speed and battery life at this point
This bitch better be a 5" phone or I'm gone go medieval on their ass.
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I've never desired a better whore. WTF, come on.
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I've never desired a better whore. WTF, come on.
Z1 camera is freaking terrible, heck even Xperia Z takes better picture than Z1 in all cases. Z1 camera software is entirely a crap right now.
You are probably smoking pretty high out there to say this...
S4's screen is over-saturated with overblown colors. The camera is 13MP but still looks like crap compare to a 8MP iPhone 4S on day shots. The night shots are bad enough that even on highest ISO its still dark, blown with noise and blurry.
Let's be honest all camera phones image quality is mediocre at best. I used my 5S for a good while shooting quick snaps etc. and didn't bother with my d90 for a couple of months.
Took out the D90 during Christmas and new year, even though d90 is massively more bulkier I'd say its worth carrying a DSLR flash gun and lenses. No comparison the quality is far immense. To me all camera phones are not good enough. They are Okay for basic snaps, but no good for fast moving objects or low light conditions there sensors are just too small.
I will say this 8-10mp and improved lens quality is more than sufficient on a phone, space and storage would just become an issue if you go too high. Most of Cannons cameras are overkill really as they often just try and cram more pixels onto a same size image sensor
Took out the D90 during Christmas and new year, even though d90 is massively more bulkier I'd say its worth carrying a DSLR flash gun and lenses. No comparison the quality is far immense. To me all camera phones are not good enough. They are Okay for basic snaps, but no good for fast moving objects or low light conditions there sensors are just too small.
I will say this 8-10mp and improved lens quality is more than sufficient on a phone, space and storage would just become an issue if you go too high. Most of Cannons cameras are overkill really as they often just try and cram more pixels onto a same size image sensor
Sir Jonny rules
Okay. You work in the Apple Camera area and want to make improvements in the next Iphone camera. Your first constraint comes down from the top: Design. Sir Jonny wants the phone to be thinner. Period. From there you have to figure how you can make the camera better with what currently exists or what you can design and manufacture and test in time for the next Iphone release. You don't have a lot of options. You will have access to better processing power with the next generation chip and your software will be better with multiple high quality shots in a second, but unless there is some kind of breakthrough in sensor or lens size, you are stuck with what you have. This is not to say it is a bad camera. On the contrary, you have a great product. But your camera area is not going to sell the product to a consumer. The new size of almost 5 inches will sell the product and the consumer will take what ever camera improvement you can make.
Okay. You work in the Apple Camera area and want to make improvements in the next Iphone camera. Your first constraint comes down from the top: Design. Sir Jonny wants the phone to be thinner. Period. From there you have to figure how you can make the camera better with what currently exists or what you can design and manufacture and test in time for the next Iphone release. You don't have a lot of options. You will have access to better processing power with the next generation chip and your software will be better with multiple high quality shots in a second, but unless there is some kind of breakthrough in sensor or lens size, you are stuck with what you have. This is not to say it is a bad camera. On the contrary, you have a great product. But your camera area is not going to sell the product to a consumer. The new size of almost 5 inches will sell the product and the consumer will take what ever camera improvement you can make.
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THIS. I want anything and everything Apple makes. Doesn't matter how similar or the smallest changes are made from the previous ones, the new products ALWAYS make me want to buy them. (even -S iPhones.. srsly
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I wouldn't be too upset if it stayed at 8MP to be honest. I was thumbing through my pictures one day and I had an old photo it took with with my iPhone 4 and one I recently took with my 5S in nearly the same spot and was stunned by the difference. Improving the lens itself and allowing more light into the sensor can make a world of difference. Now granted in these photos you're going from 5MP to 8 but you can clearly see the quality of the 5S shine through...all the little details especially.
If they can make even the slightest improvements from the 5S I'd be happy.
If they can make even the slightest improvements from the 5S I'd be happy.
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I am very glad Apple is not following the megapixel trend.
In fact I hope they drop the camera to 5MP, it's the perfect size IMO. Improve the sensor, lenses, software(maybe employ Nokia like oversampling technology), just don't up the megapixels like others are doing and call it a day.
Increased megapixels and screen resolution are such a "cheap" marketing tactic.
In fact I hope they drop the camera to 5MP, it's the perfect size IMO. Improve the sensor, lenses, software(maybe employ Nokia like oversampling technology), just don't up the megapixels like others are doing and call it a day.
Increased megapixels and screen resolution are such a "cheap" marketing tactic.
This is the same argument we hear about the need for 4K TV. The masses think that adding more pixels will have a significant impact on user experience. In most cases, that impact is purely psychological.
Actually masses don't think that. Nobody is asking for a 4K TV, much like nobody is asking for a 2K mobile phone screen.
Yet manufacturers are releasing them to prop up the specs list and hope it sells.
The standards are changing way too fast. Imagine all those people that bought BluRays and have a collection, do they expect all those people to re-buy all those BluRays in 4K? Especially so soon, BluRay only recently became affordable.
Everything else being equal, it also means pictures with more noise, and worse performance in low-light situations.
You improve image quality in a few ways:
- Better lens. (They're already using good lenses.)
- Larger image sensor (There's limits to how large an image sensor you can put in a smart phone (due to the focal distances required for larger sensors).
- More sensitive image sensor. A tiny lens lets through little light, so the more sensitive the better, and this is currently the limiting factor that has the most potential for improvement.
Each pixel of a sensor needs to gather a certain amount of light in order to accurately reproduce the scene in front of the lens. Taking a given sensor and dividing it up into more (read: smaller) pixels does not improve the image quality, because less light hits each individual pixel. As a result, you get images with more noise, and less detail.
That's about my major reason why I haven't considered picking up a Nokia phone. Verizon is bad enough, but at least they occasionally give me the carrot instead of the stick. AT&T? I don't know anyone who's happy with them.
Man, why can't we have nice things like the Europeans do? They can go out, get a phone, then use it with whoever they want. We have to weigh our options against who has the phone we want vs. who's gonna screw us the least.
It's kinda funny. I've been spending so much time around here recently, that I've started to feel that everyone else save for Apple is experiencing all kinds of doom and gloom. I get the feeling that I'm gonna have to end up settling on something because everyone else is on the brink of death.
But I went out reading about the Surface Pro 2 last night, and it turns out a lot of people actually love the thing. It's not the best casual use tablet, but it apparently works beautifully with Zbrush, Photoshop, Lightroom, Manga Studio, all that stuff. Even all the 3D programs do great with it, provided you're not rendering any heavy scenes. From what I've gathered, it's become the go-to device for people wanting to do this stuff on the go, and it's selling out like mad to them.
I'm deeply considering picking one up now, and I'm thinking I'd probably end up being happier with it than my iPad. Yeah, it's kinda heavy, and I'm not a huge, huge fan of the 16:9 screen, but considering what I can do with it, I think it's worth the trade off.
Tell me about it. I fell the same way about everything. I am tired of tradeoffs. I picked up the 8" Windows 8.1 Pro tablet and cannot believe that everything I've read about Windows 8 was an epic lie.
It's underpowered and it still handles 90% of the crap work I do. That alone makes me want the Surface Pro for heavier work.
Truth be told, I see the Surface Pro 3 getting A LOT smaller than the Pro 2. Windows RT will be dead in a year. Running Windows 8 Pro on a Bay Trail with 2GBs of RAM only shows that a thinner, lighter Pro 3 is in the works.
I hate to say it but I've been looking at 17" Windows laptops and I do like what I see. I've seen 17 inchers thinner and lighter than the OG 17" Macbook Pro with dual GPUs and 10 hours of battery life.
I am not swearing off of the Mac or Mac OSX anytime soon. But it does feel REAL nice knowing that I can buy a Windows Machine with many of the features I want/need (like an 8" tablet running a full OS) and be able to integrate it into my workflow without a hitch.
When it comes to tablets, there's always gonna be a tradeoff somewhere. Like with the Surface Pro, the desktop isn't 100% touch friendly, and you will have to use the stylus to hit some of those smaller icons. But when it comes to having to choose between a device that has a UI tailored to touch, but isn't able to do everything I want it to do, or one that can do everything I want, though not quite as comfortably, well...
...I'm kinda starting to lean towards the latter. I love my iPad, but I'm tired of looking at it and thinking "sigh...if only". I did it's job as working as a gateway drug into the wonderful world of jabbing at screens to do stuff, but now I'm finding myself wanting a little more.
That's not to say I'll give up on iPads completely. I'll probably pick up a Mini at some point if I go the Surface route, and maybe consider the iPad Pro if and when it comes out.
As for Windows 8, I could easily list a dozen things off the top of my head that irk me about it, but they're all quirks or little dumb things that should've been better thought out. But hell, I could do that with anything, and none of it absolutely kills usability. It's all just hyperbole.
Here's a good article that does some in-depth comparisons between iPhone 5S, Nokia 1020, and various DSLR's from the past decade.
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film
It is amazing how far we've come indeed!
I actually can see pixelation on 1080p on 60" plus sets. 4K is welcome once the price is right.
Yes, I am aware of that, but they do play a role in quality as well. An example of this is in detail. When I take a shot with an S4, I could zoom in and see tons of detail on whatever it was that I took a picture of because of it's increased amount of pixels. The iPhone 5S, with it's 8MP sensor, produces wonderful results, but if I take a picture of an object or a person, I'll usually show it to someone else and they'll zoom in to look at the picture a little closer up. This is where the iPhone begins to fall short. Details don't look as crisp as they would if they had been taken with a camera with more megapixels. That's where megapixels win.
I don't know much about cameras, but I have read that the new iPhone will likely be no thicker than 6mm. Whatever Apple uses, it will need to be very small. When I compare, if a camera protrudes from the back, it is a major minus. I want good pictures in an aesthetically pleasing device.
Actually not.
If the sensor is tiny and resolution is high, cropping the image you are going to have a lot of noise and nothing else.
S4 camera isn't better than iPhone 5S camera.
If you speak about latest Lumias I'm with you, they are camera phone with a quite good sensor and fairly good lenses (and for this they are bulky and heavy).
But the usually Samsung "I'll put a bigger number" philosophy isn't a real advantage here.
We don't know anything about iPhone 6, but an 8 mpixel camera with OIS and a larger sensor than 5S would be better than a 12 Mpixel camera with no OIS and the same sensor dimensions.
I am a picture printer. Love Shutterfly
The 5s takes beautiful pictures in natural light, and still settings (burst mode is OK). I just went to Winter Wonderland at night, and half the pictures at night are terrible. We brought along a Canon PowerShot ELPH 310 HS that cost $200 a few years ago, it blew my 5s out of the park.
There is still much to be improved. The 12 megapixels of the 310 helped (as well as the 5s refusing to AutoFlash because I trusted it that night).
The "12 megapixels of the 310" helped not a bit. It was the larger sensor and larger lens that gave you better low-light imaging.
And really, if you can't tell you camera isn't using it's flash, you're blaming the wrong end of the equation for lousy night time pictures.