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As opposed to resistive styluses, you don't actually NEED to use the stylus on the Samsung note tablets. Is only for accessing functionality not otherwise available via the capacitive touchscreen like pixel-perfect drawing. That's impossible on the touch-only iPhone/iPad, unfortunately.

Tablets .... again ... WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IPHONE 6 !
iPhone.
iPhone.

While Samsung has some difficulties differentiating tablets from smartphones (see the ridiculous Note 3), Apple seems to know what a tablet is and what a smartphone is.

A stylus option on a future iPad ? Maybe ...
A stylus on an iPhone ? Ridiculous ...

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If the iPhone 6 come with a 5"+ screen, then, a stylus could prove highly useful. Again, see Samsung's excellent implementation.

There is nothing excellent in Samsung implementation, in my opinion.

Btw I really hope apple is not going to release nothing above 5" .....
 
Tablets .... again ... WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IPHONE 6 !
iPhone.
iPhone.

While Samsung has some difficulties differentiating tablets from smartphones (see the ridiculous Note 3), Apple seems to know what a tablet is and what a smartphone is.

A stylus option on a future iPad ? Maybe ...
A stylus on an iPhone ? Ridiculous ...



Sorry, I should have emphasized I've been talking about the note 3 and the added functionality only available via a stylus.
 
Just sold the Semi Professional Canon since I use my iPhone all the time for photos so any improvement to the IP6 camera and lens will be cool, I skipped the 5S and holding 5 until something better comes out hopefully this phone will be much better.
 
if it's about camera...why not just get a good expensive camera....


Because a lot of people go out into the world to experience it first, and document it second. Not everyone walks around with a DSLR to take pictures of their lunches everyday. The moment I have to go out of my way to carry and keep track of something just to document my experience, I've removed myself from that experience somewhat. Since I always have my phone on me, it doesn't take anything to pull it out and snap a photo once and a while. That's just how I feel though, many will agree and many won't.

Like it or not, the camera is a major selling point of smart phones. It's part of what makes them smart - another role the phone can fill. Apple has had one of if not the best camera on phone since the beginning - it's important to apple and it's important to a lot of their customers.
 
To be honest, this isn't that big of a deal. Most people that care enough about photography to understand how f/2.0 vs. f/1.8 compare won't be using a phone as their primary camera.

I'd be much more interested in a phone that lasts 48 hours than one with an extra 2 mega pixels or f/1.8...

Not exactly true, and it is quite a big deal. It's one of the main reasons I went from 5 to 5s.

Lots of photographers love the iPhone camera. I've personally put my DSLR on the shelf after I got the 5S because this thing is always on me and takes pretty good snaps. The only time I really use my SLR anymore is for special events where I really want to get some great shots.

"Regular" consumers can tell the difference. Take a shot with a 4 (which I thought was outstanding at the time it came out) and take a shot with a 5s. The 4 doesn't even come close.
 
It just needs an SD card slot, NFC, host USB support, easily removable battery, barometer, FM radio, iris scanner, wireless charging, a stylus, a 6" display, HDMI port, and micro USB charger.

Apple obviously has no idea how to make a phone that anyone would want!

No.

Don't need anything other than USB added to the iPad pro. But they will need a file system before thats really useful.
 
Because a lot of people go out into the world to experience it first, and document it second. Not everyone walks around with a DSLR to take pictures of their lunches everyday. The moment I have to go out of my way to carry and keep track of something just to document my experience, I've removed myself from that experience somewhat. Since I always have my phone on me, it doesn't take anything to pull it out and snap a photo once and a while. That's just how I feel though, many will agree and many won't.

Like it or not, the camera is a major selling point of smart phones. It's part of what makes them smart - another role the phone can fill. Apple has had one of if not the best camera on phone since the beginning - it's important to apple and it's important to a lot of their customers.

if that's the case...then samsung would more likely to have a better pic quality...
(IMO). As i went to best buy to compare 5s with note 3....i seen some difference btw two phones.
 
Apple has had one of if not the best camera on phone since the beginning - it's important to apple and it's important to a lot of their customers.

Umh no lol

The first iPhone's camera was really bad next to the N95 or even some dumb phones, it was only since the iPhone 4 that the camera was good enough to compete amongst the best in the market.
 
There is nothing excellent in Samsung implementation, in my opinion.

Well, it's Wacom with all its advantages - a pixel-precise pen. Something in no way achievable with capacitive screens in any way - including, sadly, all current iOS devices. No more, no less. And their digitizer hasn't added much bulk to their devices. I don't think adding an active digitizer under the screen would make iPhones / iPads much (if at all) thicker / heavier, either. Hell, even my 11-year-old HP TC1100 isn't thicker / heavier than comparable non-Wacom-enabled ultrabooks of the age.

Btw I really hope apple is not going to release nothing above 5" .....

Well, if they do go over 5", they really should consider adding Wacom support. Pens are useful even on 3.5" devices - back in the (WinCE /) Palm OS / Pocket PC / Windows Mobile days, we only had 3...3.6" resistive screens for the most part. Still, even on those small screens freehand free-text / graphics pen input was very useful. Much-much more useful and better than doing the same with one's finger on iPhones. And, again, we're speaking about small screen-devices.
 
I always thought the 5S had OIS already. Is SLR with a cell phone possible without being super expensive?
 
Umh no lol

The first iPhone's camera was really bad next to the N95 or even some dumb phones, it was only since the iPhone 4 that the camera was good enough to compete amongst the best in the market.

Agreed. And in some respects (e.g., video resolution / framerate; optical stabilization; video audio (mono - in 2014...)) Apple still lags. Nevertheless, it certainly excels in some definite areas like:

- panorama (among the best in the mobile world; only Samsung's pano implementation, available only in their latest high-end models like the N3 / GS4, is better)

- shoot-to-shoot speed

- AF and WB accuracy

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I always thought the 5S had OIS already. Is SLR with a cell phone possible without being super expensive?

Nope, the 5s has a somewhat more intelligent electronic IS. However, it just can't hold a candle to, say, Nokia's truly OIS implementation, as is also clearly evident based on independent tests like that of DPReview.

That is, Apple's praising the new IS in the 5s is pretty much unfounded.

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if that's the case...then samsung would more likely to have a better pic quality...
(IMO). As i went to best buy to compare 5s with note 3....i seen some difference btw two phones.

The 5s and the N3 have comparable IQ in stills mode.

WRT non-IQ-specifics, the N3 is immensely more featureful (4K video, stereo audio, true 1080p60, dual camera shooting being the most important), while the 5s is better at burst shooting.

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Still no redesign?can we say dated yet?:D:D:D:D

There will be a redesign.
 
I always thought the 5S had OIS already. Is SLR with a cell phone possible without being super expensive?

i'm not sure what you're asking.

are you asking if you can have an SLR on a cell phone?

its impossible. SLR is a specific type of camera system. it's generally considered very large and bulky. The penta prism used in the viewfinder takes up a consider bulk.

Not to mentio that the image sensor size is in the order of magnitudes larger than that of a smartphone. Canon's APS-C for example in their SLR's are 1.6 Crop factor, the Iphone's I believe is 1/3rd or a crop of around 4?

the sheer size of the sensor, pentaprism, shutter mechanisms, mirror array and mounting for different lenses pretty much means yo'll never get SLR quality and functionality out of a smartphone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSLR

just a quick google for some camera info: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm
pretty decent read;
 
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I don't want more megapixels unless they're willing to put big flash storage (512GB!) in an inexpensive model. It's an area where Apple really lets itself down. I would have thought that increasing storage capacity at all price levels was an easy way to prop up perceived value and margins.
 
Nope, it's 7.21x (that of the 5s and its 1/3" sensor; the earlier sensors are even smaller). See my earlier post: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18729895/

even smaller than I guessed. (was doing the math in my head and failed miserably).

suffice to say, Smartphone cameras have come leaps and bounds from where they used to be. for the average user, who is just taking snapshots for fun, social media and the like, they easily replace point and shoots. (thought PS still have larger sensors and technically better), the quality is close enough.

But there's just no competing with a larger format sensor for image quality.

That also doesn't take into account that the glass on SLR's, even cheap glass, is far above and beyond anything on a smartphone lens. not to mention all the other millions of things you can do with a DSLR you can't with a smartphone.

Although, The better the camera in the phone the better. as everyone has said a brazzillion times.

"the best camera is the one on you"
 
even smaller than I guessed. (was doing the math in my head and failed miserably).

suffice to say, Smartphone cameras have come leaps and bounds from where they used to be. for the average user, who is just taking snapshots for fun, social media and the like, they easily replace point and shoots. (thought PS still have larger sensors and technically better), the quality is close enough.

But there's just no competing with a larger format sensor for image quality.

That also doesn't take into account that the glass on SLR's, even cheap glass, is far above and beyond anything on a smartphone lens. not to mention all the other millions of things you can do with a DSLR you can't with a smartphone.

Although, The better the camera in the phone the better. as everyone has said a brazzillion times.

"the best camera is the one on you"

What if I have this one :p

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It just needs an SD card slot, NFC, host USB support, easily removable battery, barometer, FM radio, iris scanner, wireless charging, a stylus, a 6" display, HDMI port, and micro USB charger.

Apple obviously has no idea how to make a phone that anyone would want!

It's a little bit weird to put every GS5 rumors to here. And, SD card make phone very slow, I have a GS4 (and I will sell it when iPhone 6 come out) and with SD card phones gets very slow. NFC, so bumping your phone with other phones is a great idea? Removable battery? Really? Are there people carrying batteries in their pockets? Stylus, well I have some friends that have Note 3 and I can say stylus is useless on a phone, maybe with a tablet but not a phone, even though it's a phablet. Why would you want micro USB? As I see most of accesorises are made for Apple Lightning charger so just why? If Apple make devices for everyone they would be HP, when did you get so excited when you got a HP?
 
It's a little bit weird to put every GS5 rumors to here. And, SD card make phone very slow, I have a GS4 (and I will sell it when iPhone 6 come out) and with SD card phones gets very slow.

No one forces you to install apps on the SD card. Use it for what it's doing the best: store media there but not apps.

Removable battery? Really? Are there people carrying batteries in their pockets?

Better than having to wait for, say, half an hour next to a wall outlet to get some life back to your phone with a non-replaceable battery...

Stylus, well I have some friends that have Note 3 and I can say stylus is useless on a phone, maybe with a tablet but not a phone, even though it's a phablet.

Ever tried to jot down something - without the (inherently slower) on-screen keyboard? I bet you haven't. Otherwise, you'd knew that a decent stylus helps a lot. As I've explained above, even in the "dark" times of Palm-size PC's / Pocket PC's / Palm OS devices with resistive digitizers and sub-4" screens, they were way better for entering handwriting than anything on the capacitive-only iPhone.

Why would you want micro USB? As I see most of accesorises are made for Apple Lightning charger so just why?

While I don't particularly like MicroUSB because it's clumsy and fragile (and, because of the latter, I only use a wireless Qi charger for recharching my N7 2013), it does have several advantages over Lightning:

- standardized chargers & cables orders of magnitude more common and cheaper than Lightning ones

- HDMI out via, with some devices, SlimPort, which is WAY better than Apple's lousy HDMI / VGA out implementation over Lightning

- USB OTG and USB host. Ever tried to connect a USB memory stick to an iPhone? (You can't even with JB'n iOS7.) A mouse to any iOS device? (A no-go either, unless you JB.) A USB keyboard to a pre-iOS7 iPhone? (Doesn't work either, unless you JB and use the CameraConnector tweak.)
 
What about a dual camera mode? I can expect that imo since Samsung and HTC are pushing that in their software.
 
i'm not sure what you're asking.

are you asking if you can have an SLR on a cell phone?

its impossible. SLR is a specific type of camera system. it's generally considered very large and bulky. The penta prism used in the viewfinder takes up a consider bulk.

Not to mentio that the image sensor size is in the order of magnitudes larger than that of a smartphone. Canon's APS-C for example in their SLR's are 1.6 Crop factor, the Iphone's I believe is 1/3rd or a crop of around 4?

the sheer size of the sensor, pentaprism, shutter mechanisms, mirror array and mounting for different lenses pretty much means yo'll never get SLR quality and functionality out of a smartphone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSLR

just a quick google for some camera info: http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm
pretty decent read;

Oh, I thought SLR was just had to do with the quality of pixels being super refined on point and shoot cameras. I kinda want to see the point and shoot camera to disappear and centralize everything within a cell phone. My friend does digital photography and she's super pro cannon, but I don't use anything outside of my phone, but I have the HTC One, so my camera is good.
 
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