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Other manufacturers don't have Touch ID. They don't need the button, they don't need to 'waste' space'.

Could you imagine how awful it would be with the Home Button on the back? In its current position you can have your thumb resting on it and easily apply force. I would hate for the button on the back or the side for that matter. Something under the screen could work - but we're not here in terms of tech yet.

Not to mention having some bezel is nice - just as a place to hold without accidentally touching the screen especially in landscape (an iPad like accidental touch rejection on the iPhone would be nice if they're going to shave the bezels even more).

I see so many comments like yours that focus on the user facing details and completely ignore what it takes to build a successful platform.
I'm not sure why people are surprised about the bezels on the new iPhone. Did people really expect that only one year after Apple incorporated Touch ID into the home button they would ditch the home button? Putting it on the back of the phone would be a useablilty nightmare. And is it even possible right now to put this technology on screen without the need for the dedicated hardware button. It's easy to claim Apple is being lazy or have run out of new ideas but people that say it should back it up.
 
So Apple is going to announce the phone in September but it won't be available for sale until a month later? Call me highly skeptical.

They have done that with many of their products. To be honest I would prefer them to launch a product where they actually have some stock. I ordered a 5S right at midnight online, and it did not ship till October.
 
Apple did it before with the iPhone 3G. And the iPhone 4 was only available in like 5 countries for nearly two months.

It's not unusual.

Is it really comparable though? When Apple launched the iPhone 4 they sold 1.7M on launch weekend. With iPhone 5S launch weekend it was 9M across 11 countries. What would cause Apple to have to delay sales a month? If it won't be available until October why have the event in September? iPhone 4S was announced in October.

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They have done that with many of their products. To be honest I would prefer them to launch a product where they actually have some stock. I ordered a 5S right at midnight online, and it did not ship till October.

IMO that would be the only reason for doing it - allow people to pre-order and ensure there is plenty of stock in stores on launch day. I'm still skeptical but IF this turns out to be true it must mean Apple is expecting massive sales on launch weekend, blowing way past the 9M 5S/C launch weekend.
 
For this rumor to be true It would mean that the "retail source" has either broken a story that should shake up the upper management of apple for being lairs with their profit guidance for this qtr which was released last week and incredibly inept because they do not know of production delays/product launches before "senior retail" sources. This story doesn't have legs.
 
No way it's Oct, Apple just put out their 4th quarter forecast and those numbers include at least some iPhone 6 sales. TC would not put those numbers on the street without total confidence in them.


Ah. Good catch.
 
Seriously? I think you are confusing MacRumors with Reuters or Bloomberg. Do you really think traders are making buy/sell decisions based on a website like this that basically openly regurgitates unsubstantiated speculation or vague rumours? (no offence Arn!)

Would you make a financial decision based solely on what you read on here?

If you followed the stock You would be surprised how fast reuters, ap, and a ton of less reputable news organizations pick up stories like this, reprint and recite the same unnamed sources as gospel. Two years ago when aapl crashed stories like this had a snowball effect and took the stock down when company fundamentals hadn't changed at all. It's all about perception. If this rumor was true it would have a much bigger impact then when we get our next iPhones. It implies that Tim Cook and new CFO misled on guidance among a host of other problems.
 
If they said August - that would be newsworthy.

As for all the rest.
Sept - how many times does this have to appear - yaaawwwn.
Other months - as times goes by it all gets less exciting and less interesting.
 
You might want to call me mad, but when the iPhone 6 is announced and the pricing of the older devices are getting lowered, I'm going for the iPhone 5s. It's still a good phone with the perfect screen size for me. 4.7" en 5,5" would be just too big for me. At least at the moment. :p

Besides, iPhone 5s with 32 GB will be €100/$100 less expensive than the iPhone 6 16 GB (4.7"). IF Apple is not going to raise the pricing again for this model, like they did with the iPhone 5. xD
 
Too many assumptions...

It seems highly unlikely that Apple would leave a month between announcing an upgrade and having it on sale. It would have too much of an impact on sales of the current models in most of their larger markets. Much more likely that there are a few days between announcement and pre-orders, and then on sale a week later, as has happened for the 5 and 5S.

The 'source' says that the whole of October will be busy, with an 'immense' announcement on 14th October. That would only make half of October busy, if the iPhone 6 wasn't yet on sale.

So surely the likely course of events is mid-September iP6 announcement, on sale for the last week or so, still busy with that in the first fortnight of October and then an iWatch launch making the rest of October manic? It's hard to imagine anyone calling a phone upgrade 'immense' (although I'd use that to describe 5.5"..), but a new category, on the other hand...

My tuppence worth, but I am a little surprised at the conclusions drawn in the article, unless the 'source' gave a lot more 'hints' than are quoted.

It has to be said too, that it's highly unlikely that Apple Retail Store people would be told about any specific dates or announcements this far ahead. Much more likely that they've just been told that holiday will be restricted for a couple of months...

Tiptopp
 
Oct 14th is likely the keynote that will announce the iWatch, hence the immense date (on top of Yosemite and iPads).
 
I'm not sure why people are surprised about the bezels on the new iPhone. Did people really expect that only one year after Apple incorporated Touch ID into the home button they would ditch the home button? Putting it on the back of the phone would be a useablilty nightmare. And is it even possible right now to put this technology on screen without the need for the dedicated hardware button. It's easy to claim Apple is being lazy or have run out of new ideas but people that say it should back it up.

maybe apple will do away with the home button when the iWatch arrives. Maybe theres an iCompanion model where you buy the iWatch and iPhone together in a package and the iPhone unlocks because you wear your iWatch (due to proximity via bluetooth etc) and the fingerprint sensor is under the glass as a second security step.

buying iPhone alone the home button is gone and under glass as mentioned but you have to press the power button on the side to wake it up then put your finger on touch ID. Sure its more of a hassle.... until you buy iWatch ;)

there you go thats the new analyst rumour for next week :D:D
 
I doubt this. Announce and release it in September. October is too busy with the iWatch, new Macs and iPads.
 
Really hope this is wrong. Will be travelling in September and was hoping to buy it then so I could avoid the stupid tax on the unsubsidized price here in CA.
 
Getting bored...

October is far too far away to get excited about a phone, especially if that is the delivery date. Who really cares about anything that's that far away ?

So Apple needs to announce it and deliver it in all markets within the week. Rather than all the hype, focus on delivering a seriously great high quality phone on time everywhere in SEPTEMBER.

Q3 numbers will need the boost. Q4 and Christmas will look after themselves.

The new product famine ( as opposed to minor speed and memory hikes) needs to end very soon with real products delivering real revenue and customer satisfaction rather than column inches often full of BS.
 
Disappointed it will be October rather than September. But the thing that makes this probably true is the other rumor that Yosemite won't be released until October. I can see Apple releasing the iPhone 6 and IOS 8 without Yosemite. They work too closely together. They wouldn't have everyone convert to IOS 8 and iCloud Drive with no way to access the files on their desktops. Does seem a long time away though.
 
When's the last time Apple released an iPhone on Tuesday? Wouldn't they want to stick to their Friday release schedule if for no other reason than easily being able to compare to the 5S launch weekend?
 
According to a "Store Leader"? Sounds more like a Store ME-duh looking for some attention and comes off looking like un gran idiota. For one I doubt Apple is explicit with store management at this point as to exactly when its going to announce and launch specific products. Second, regardless, why is this person jeopardizing their career?

Logically, it makes more sense for Apple to continue launching iPhones in Sept since it's their biggest money maker and a week or two, not a month, can hugely affect the quarters earnings. As mid-Sept is nearing the end of Apple's Q4 Apple can get a few sales in before closing the books.

Let's assume the new product category Cook spoke about earlier this year is the "iWatch". It's an unknown quantity as far as what demand will be. So again, makes sense to get your most popular product out then launch the new one. Therefore, I think this report is total BS and the "Store Leader" is mis-reading whatever tea leaves Apple sent to the store.
 
This makes no sense.

If it's an "incredibly busy" month for Apple then why release another product during that month?

I'm 90% sure it'll be unveiled and on sale in September.
 
I don't think so.

My best personal guess is that the 4.7" iPhone 6 ships on 19 September 2014 and the 5.5" iPhone 6 "Air" (if this rumored name is true!) ships on 17 October 2014.

The new iPads with the A8 SoC will reach retailers on 31 October 2014.
 
NO WAY would AAPL screw it's 4th fiscal Qtr

No way it's Oct, Apple just put out their 4th quarter forecast and those numbers include at least some iPhone 6 sales. TC would not put those numbers on the street without total confidence in them.

Apple needs sales in Sept with everyone holding back for new product releases starting in September, there is absolutely no way they would let Sept and the Qtr close without some new product to boost the Qtr sales numbers. As others have said this once a year new product release cycle is getting lame. Not only does it promote hesitance with investors but it puts a huge burden on the supply chain as everything is ramped and must fall in line within a two month release window, just the headache every manufacturer wants 6 new products released in a 6 wk window. With training, new Mfg processes, yield problems, etc oh happy day just what they wanted.

Maybe this leak is a way for Apple to increase their share buy back by causing a stock retreat to afford them a favorable repurchase price. It sure did take a nosedive after this story broke, down over 2% after making a 52 week high earlier in the week and nearly breaking the all time high of $100 set in Sept 2012.
 
Sounds like an iPad launch to me. All the MacBooks have been updated already and same with the iMacs and the Mac Pro, so it looks like the iPad will get an upgrade.
 
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