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Some slight camera tweaks are in tow in iOS 8.0.1 and 8.0.2 , obviously you are quick to dismiss this, updates will only further improve the camera, and we are talking about smartphone cameras here, not a DSLR, the new iPhone 6/6 Plus camera is quite dam great for it being a smartphone camera, king of them all , for now

1. You can install iOS 8.0.1. Have fun with that.
2. Read the context of what I was replying to. If the gold standard of camera phones supports inconsistent and shifting white balance, then it must be a good feature, right? If it is, I should be looking for it in other types of cameras, right?
 
If you put the phone vertically into your pocket, then there are two opposing forces: the downward force of the top of the pocket and the upward force of the top of your leg. In the bending videos, the phone only bends if they either completely remove the opposing force from the bottom or limit it to an isolated point (like someone's thumb pressing upward on the bottom while their hands pull downward from the top). Neither of those two limitations are going to occur if the phone is against your leg vertically.


So when they completely removed the opposing force, did the phone begin accelerating downward or did you just disprove Newton? I call for a peer review of these findings!
 
This is FUD

First, this OP does not demonstrate any attempt to test these devices scientifically. There is no way to know if the same amount of pressure is being applied to each device without a way to measure it.

Second, the OP is not pressing in the center on the iPhone 6 or 6+. One thumb is under the volume buttons (not in the center) and the other is under the center.

Third, the phones (all of them) are more likely to bend if the pressure is not exactly dead center. By pressing dead center, there is less area for flex and pressure on the center than if the pressure were applied off-center.

Fourth, the design of each phone may reveal different stress points (i.e., weak points) based upon each individual structure (camera in the center of the Nokia Lumia).

Fifth, (lack of) evidence of a bend does not mean the internal components of the phone weren't damaged.

Sixth, all metal phones will bend with enough pressure.ff

Last, I do not doubt that the iPhone 6 (and especially the 6+) will bend and/or twist; however, this video is worthless. What is needed is a way to test the iPhone in a manner that replicates the pressure exerted on the phone when in a pocket.

Apple has a problem on their hands--the question is whether it is a design flaw or a manufacturing flaw [edit: or a consumer defect, i.e. sitting on it].
 
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I think it can bend but so can any other phone with enough force. For the most of us it won't bend in our pockets. I think this a big joke and people want apple to fail. I don't think it should matter as apple stands by their products. I will get my 6plus tomorrow and if it should bend I will get a new one. The videos like this one just aren't getting enough attention.
 
First, this OP does not demonstrate any attempt to test these devices scientifically. There is no way to know if the same amount of pressure is being applied to each device without a way to measure it.

Second, the OP is not pressing in the center on the iPhone 6 or 6+. One thumb is under the volume buttons (not in the center) and the other is under the center.

Third, the phones (all of them) are more likely to bend if the pressure is not exactly dead center. By pressing dead center, there is less area for flex and pressure on the center than if the pressure were applied off-center.

Fourth, the design of each phone may reveal different stress points (i.e., weak points) based upon each individual structure (camera in the center of the Nokia Lumia).

Fifth, (lack of) evidence of a bend does not mean the internal components of the phone weren't damaged.

Sixth, all metal phones will bend with enough pressure.ff

Last, I do not doubt that the iPhone 6 (and especially the 6+) will bend and/or twist; however, this video is worthless. What is needed is a way to test the iPhone in a manner that replicates the pressure exerted on the phone when in a pocket.

Apple has a problem on their hands--the question is whether it is a design flaw or a manufacturing flaw.

now imagine him apply this kind of force to the phone in his pockets.. very natural isn't it
 
You wouldn't expect an $800 mobile phone to be built to withstand daily usage and transport in pockets?

I don't get it. Do you use a purse or fanny pack? How do you carry your phone around? In your hand?

I carry it in my front or back pocket. But I do not sit on an $800 device or keep it in my front pocket being insanely uncomfortable as it digs into my thighs. I just generally take it out, to avoid pain and potential breaking of the phone. That's how.
 
That is not what bendgate is about.
If its so common to know that aluminium easily bends (which I also think it is), then why hasn't Apple found another way to make the iPhone as sturdy as a note 3?
They simply failed. But obviously many people cannot live with the fact that Apple sometimes is simply wrong in what they do.

It is a classic case of form over function, though I'm afraid your wasting your breath trying to persuade an iPhone owner their beloved phone may have a fault.

It's clear to any impartial observer that to make something of this size so slim out of a substance such as aluminium without some form of strengthening is not good.

People can jeer all they want but it so happens that plastic is a better material for something as slim as this.
 
It is a classic case of form over function, though I'm afraid your wasting your breath trying to persuade an iPhone owner their beloved phone may have a fault.

It's clear to any impartial observer that to make something of this size so slim out of a substance such as aluminium without some form of strengthening is not good.

People can jeer all they want but it so happens that plastic is a better material for something as slim as this.

You would likewise not convince people who are sitting a precision electronic device despite weighing 260 lbs squeezing into a size 12 jean size their phone should come out unscathed.
 
I think it can bend but so can any other phone with enough force. For the most of us it won't bend in our pockets. I think this a big joke and people want apple to fail. I don't think it should matter as apple stands by their products. I will get my 6plus tomorrow and if it should bend I will get a new one. The videos like this one just aren't getting enough attention.

Sure, any modern smartphone with a relativly thin design (at least under 9 mm, away from the brick smartphones back in like 2009-2010-2011 the old droids etc) will bend , if someone is trying forcibly trying to break the **** out of it lol for a prolonged period of time, virtually will never happen, and for people who might put their phone in their back pocket and sit on it? Smh ... You shouldnt be sitting on your phone in the first place

Everything is all good

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Would love someone to do a test on the Samsung note 4. Guarantee it will bend.

Yeah i wanna see the Galaxy alpha go under this test, it weighs like 113g only, lighter then the 5S/5. And its extremely slim like 6. something millimeters
 
It is a classic case of form over function, though I'm afraid your wasting your breath trying to persuade an iPhone owner their beloved phone may have a fault.

Why don't people understand that form is important for many of us, which is why we love Apple. They focus on form, sometimes at the expense of function (not always).

If you want function and not form, don't go with Apple since that's what they pride themselves in. Go with something insanely rugged like the Samsung. It's definitely function, awful form.

EDIT: That's the samsung rugged edition, forgot what it's called. Not the S5, which I'm sure will break under extreme pressure.
 
You would likewise not convince people who are sitting a precision electronic device despite weighing 260 lbs squeezing into a size 12 jean size their phone should come out unscathed.

Except that is if the phone was of plastic construction. In such a form factor plastic is incredibly resilient.
 
That is not what bendgate is about.
If its so common to know that aluminium easily bends (which I also think it is), then why hasn't Apple found another way to make the iPhone as sturdy as a note 3?
They simply failed. But obviously many people cannot live with the fact that Apple sometimes is simply wrong in what they do.

Thankfully I'm not one of them. But I really find it very disappointing that people actually grant this so much value. Forums are the best place to exaggerate and bloat an issue.

For instance: how many people have they faced this problem ? And how much force does someone actually have to use to bend the device ? We don't really have any serious answers to these, so we don't know if this happens on normal use (of course I cannot take seriously the reported incidents posted here). In the only video I've seen demonstrating this, the guy there really had to use much force to bend the iPhone 6 plus, that actually justifies the aluminum material resistance and it is far beyond the limits of normal use. And above all this, we now seriously call this "Bendgate" ? Come on now...

The iOS 8 update is a real issue. This is not (IMHO).
 
Why don't people understand that form is important for many of us, which is why we love Apple. They focus on form, sometimes at the expense of function (not always).

If you want function and not form, don't go with Apple since that's what they pride themselves in. Go with something insanely rugged like the Samsung. It's definitely function, awful form.

EDIT: That's the samsung rugged edition, forgot what it's called. Not the S5, which I'm sure will break under extreme pressure.

Absolutely correct. My GS2 is three years old, works flawlessly and is genuinely unmarked despite spending that time in my trouser pocket without a case.

Most of my other tech is Apple but for me they miss the mark with their phones.
 

How much it bends while under pressure is not that important. What happens after the pressure is removed is the key here. Metal typical does not 'bounce back' - it largely stays in the shape it was bent into. Most types of polycarbonate however, pops back into the moulded shape - unless it is bent to the point where it actually breaks.

Metal that is bent a tiny bit - like 0.1mm - keeps that bend and just adds to it for each time it is bent. Polycarbonates start from 0 every time and has no 'memory' of earlier cases of being bent.
 
How much it bends while under pressure is not that important. What happens after the pressure is removed is the key here. Metal typical does not 'bounce back' - it largely stays in the shape it was bent into. Most types of polycarbonate however, pops back into the moulded shape - unless it is bent to the point where it actually breaks.

Metal that is bent a tiny bit - like 0.1mm - keeps that bend and just adds to it for each time it is bent. Polycarbonates start from 0 every time and has no 'memory' of earlier cases of being bent.

yeah but your phone is not being subjected to this force really ever, pretty sure you would know if your phone feels tight/pressure on it in your pocket for one, two, if you actually put your phone in your back pocket and actually sit on it you deserve to break your phone because thats just pretty dumb and I dont do that.

people treat their smartphone more carefully then other objects and so i would think that theyre phones arent going to be subjected/ allow their phones or try to prevent from forces like this to intentional forceful prolonged applied pressure, etc
 
This is why you don't use car analogies. Go run a 1950s Ford (or anything else from that era) into a pole. It'll disintegrate. The modern car is merely bent up. Better luck with your next analogy.

It was a great analogy and I stand by it. Run it into a pole and you'll get a little dent because there's no crumple zones. The driver inside will suffer serious whiplash... that's the purpose of crumple zones (making the impact softer so that the driver is safer). In new cars the whole panel will be written off and the airbags will pop, all causing thousands worth of damage. 50s ford if it's low speed, nothing will happen because they are built like bricks.
 
yeah but your phone is not being subjected to this force really ever, pretty sure you would know if your phone feels tight/pressure on it in your pocket for one, two, if you actually put your phone in your back pocket and actually sit on it you deserve to break your phone because thats just pretty dumb and I dont do that.

people treat their smartphone more carefully then other objects and so i would think that theyre phones arent going to be subjected/ allow their phones or try to prevent from forces like this to intentional forceful prolonged applied pressure, etc

So what you're really saying is that people are careful with their smartphones but if it's an iPhone you need to be especially careful given its construction. However, if it's of moulded polycarbonate construction you can be as rough as you like as this type of phone is more durable and will not bend whatever you do to it.

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Apple has responded and said only 9 customers have complained about bent phones. Out of 10 million plus phones this is a outrage! Sarcasm was used in my comment;)

they also use reinforcement.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/25/ap...-plus-bending-complaints-number-less-than-10/

I'm only surprised Tim Cook hasn't gone on stage to show everyone how they can sit in different positions which will avoid damaging their new iPhone.

Oh! I've just had a flashback and seen SJ doing something similar concerning an antenna.

Now if only I could remember what that was all about........
 
You have no clue what your talking about. Please actually read what your pretending to research on. It is very clear you just did a simple Google search and copy and pasted whatever you thought made sense.

Anodized aluminum is mainly for increased corrosion resistance, it does not increase the strength of the aluminum object.

Notice in your sources it mentions things are protected by layers of anodized aluminum.

Source:
http://www.anodizing.org/FAQ/faq_cont2.html

Dude, I don't claim I am an expert in Metallurgy but at least I am better off than people who just eat whatever social media feed. It's only 9 out 10 million phones defected, and even if there is more, it's a mere 0.00009%! Why everyone jump into the conclusion that it's 90% of all iPhones 6 has problem? Bendgate your ass.

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Dude,the problem is,apparently in case of iPhone 6 Plus,it can easily deform..now who cares how durable on paper it is,in real life it can't withstand normal usage stress..
 
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