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Here at AUD has taken a big hit since this time last year, not that I'd buy an iPhone outright. I was considering upgrading my 5s but it's working fine, still got good battery life so might wait 12 months, change to a lower plan and save a bit of cash in the mean time.

My 3Gs lasted me about 3 years until I got the 5s so I think I can wait this upgrade out and get the iPhone 7 in 12 months time!

If you really want that 5s to last another year, consider getting the battery replaced. Even though you say battery is fine, you will still notice a nice difference at this point. Though I'd wait and see how it handles on iOS 9 first. But still I recommend replacing the battery after two years. Keep the receipt and show a future buyer that it has a replaced battery and you might get a higher resale price. I think you will find it worth the hassle and cost if you are going to stretch for that third year.
 
Bad analogy. The US has the lowest prices on Mercedes cars. The people flying to Europe are buying them in US$ on the US dealer's factory-delivery programs, which basically works out to a free European vacation. Plus there's a 50-100 factor difference between an iPhone & a Mercedes.
Perfect, I'm glad you enjoy hearing yourself talk.
 
Noting do to with the "pure" exchange rate... The IPhone's are made in China, so the cost to produce is not in $ USD. With the cost of labour in China so low and the yuan-renminbi at 0,15 cents, you can imagine how much profit Apple is making.

The workers who make the iPhones are Foxconn employees. Apple has a contract with Foxconn. Most likely, prices paid to Foxconn are in USD. Whether that is true or not, either Apple or Foxconn surely hedged against currency fluctuations. There is no reason either company would want to gamble on exchange rates. Apple (or Foxconn) costs would then be impacted very little by currency rates.
 
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Yet everytime I go to Canada they always think the value of my money 1:1. The worst part some stores won't accept and some charges a fee. SMH.

at least we accept american coins (5, 10 and 25 cents) mixed in with canadian money. if i wanna buy something that costs $5.05 canadian and i have a $5 canadian bill and 5 cents american, we will accept it.

when i go to the US and they see a canadian coin, they say no.. no matter what. i once was buying over $100 worth of stuff from a store. i don't remember the exact cost, but i remember i had a canadian coin in there somewhere and they made me break a $5 american bill. i found that pathetic (this was when our money was 1:1).



as for your rant about canadians.. it costs the business to go and exchange the currency (hence the fee) and also unless you're shopping at the border or an airport, the POS systems aren't designed to do currency exchange.
 
when i go to the US and they see a canadian coin, they say no.. no matter what. i once was buying over $100 worth of stuff from a store. i don't remember the exact cost, but i remember i had a canadian coin in there somewhere and they made me break a $5 american bill. i found that pathetic (this was when our money was 1:1).
Yes it's true, no one will accept Canadian dollars even in a town like Buffalo which is right on the border and lots of businesses deal with Canadian customers in daily basis.
What's even funnier is that I don't even need to exchange my US currency to Canadian currency when I visit Toronto (two to three times a year). Everyone seems to accept American currency with no problem. Gas stations, restaurants, and even Walmart. :D
 
aus getting absolutely dominated on the price... i was gonna buy outright but nearly 1600 bucks can get farked
 
If you're after an iPhone, it's justifiable buying one but I think there comes a time when a sane person seriously consider if paying between AUD$1079 to AUD$1529 (not including accessories) for a phone which will, in a few years, stop being supported by the company is worth buying. Heck, it'll even be superseded next year so it'll be out of date, so to speak.

Just my AUD$0.02 ( or the equivalent USD$0.01).
 
Someone tell me why they have to I increase the prices because of a stronger US dollar? Doesn't make sense to me? Is it because they are losing too much?already in Australia the cost doesn't convert anywhere close to what the US pays, it just blows my mind why they do this?

When the US dollar is strong, the value of the Australian dollar falls. The buying power of the Australian dollar is less, so A$1 today is worth much less to Apple than A$1 was even a year ago.

So, in the US, a 16GB iPhone 6S costs US$649 ex. tax.
In Australia, the same phone costs AUD$980 ex. tax. You have to remove the tax to make the comparison equal.

US$649 is A$920.

In the US, the price of $649 reflects an acceptable margin to Apple. In Australia, where we have higher costs and a smaller market over which to spread those costs not to mention a pretty volatile currency at the moment, Apple need to charge a bit more to maintain profits and absorb any possible currency fluctuations in the short term. That amount comes out to be A$60 per unit. To me, $60 is pretty reasonable.

On a 128GB iPhone 6S Plus the difference is just under $50. They're not drastically different AT ALL to what the US is paying.
 
On a 128GB iPhone 6S Plus the difference is just under $50. They're not drastically different AT ALL to what the US is paying.

That is true, but I guess the bite is that because of the exchange rate most Apple products got more expensive (read: unaffordable) for us here in Australia and it will come to a point where it might be cheaper to start looking at alternatives, even though we want Apple products (assuming it's functionality people are after, not status).
 
Last September (the iPhone 6-era launch), the Mexican peso was 13–13.5 against the dollar. Now it’s 17. About a 25% drop in value against USD.

It’s only fair for Apple’s prices to reflect currency fluctuations, isn’t it?

2 years ago, dollar was pretty weak compared to €uro. Now it is strong. So Apple raised the prices.
Why didn't they drop prices 2 years ago? I live in Croatia, we still don't use €uro. We have our own currency called Kuna. 2 years ago 1 kuna = 4,7$. Now it,s 6,6$. Apple was selling iPhone here for 5600 kunas 2 years ago. And before prices where the same. Now it's 7000 kunas coz of strong dollar.

But why didn't they drop prices worldwide while dollar was weak? But now they are raising prices coz of strong dollar. Well, thanks Apple, but no thanks. I think I bought my last iPhone back in the time iPhone 5s came out. Was waiting for 6s (I always buy S series), but now I am pretty sure I won't buy it.

I know Apple doesn't care about me, but they will soon enough. 16GB entry level model, raising prices, etc. Sooner or later they are gonna feel the drop of earnings coz of how they treat their customers. Better sooner then later.
 
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That is true, but I guess the bite is that because of the exchange rate most Apple products got more expensive (read: unaffordable) for us here in Australia and it will come to a point where it might be cheaper to start looking at alternatives, even though we want Apple products (assuming it's functionality people are after, not status).

Oh yeah, that's the second part of the equation. If the price puts it out of the reach for the population, and really, those buying the phone outright will just need to save for a little longer then Apple will need to adjust it's expectations on the margins.

Outright prices went up by about $100 - not really dramatic in the grand scheme of a thousand dollar phone anyway. Those buying it outright aren't going to be hurting, if someone can afford $1449 but now can't afford $1529 then they need to maybe have a bit of think about how they handle their money. Save for a few more weeks, buy a lower-capacity phone, buy a cheaper model - these are all options available to them, they're not being forced to pay more right away.

Those getting the phone on a plan will see a couple of extra dollars added on - not a big deal.

Yes, things are more expensive but instead of complaining about it we should be looking at what we really need.
 
2 years ago, dollar was pretty weak compared to €uro. Now it is strong. So Apple raised the prices.
Why didn't they drop prices 2 years ago? I live in Croatia, we still don't use €uro. We have our own currency called Kuna. 2 years ago 1 kuna = 4,7$. Now it,s 6,6$. Apple was selling iPhone here for 5600 kunas 2 years ago. And before prices where the same. Now it's 7000 kunas coz of strong dollar.

But why didn't they drop prices worldwide while dollar was weak? But now they are raising prices coz of strong dollar. Well, thanks Apple, but no thanks. I think I bought my last iPhone back in the time iPhone 5s came out. Was waiting for 6s (I always buy S series), but now I am pretty sure I won't buy it.

I know Apple doesn't care about me, but they will soon enough. 16GB entry level model, raising prices, etc. Sooner or later they are gonna feel the drop of earnings coz of how they treat their customers. Better sooner then later.

Main problem with us is that we dont have original Apple store. We have reselers like Apcom and iStyle. They bumb the high price even higher for they own profit. About 12% higher then the eu euro prices.

Phone operators are diferent story. When apple was unknown to most back in 2009 and 3GS prices were much much lower. When phone was begining much more popular they bumb the prices up with every iphone release even thow changes in europe and us for iphone didnt change. Same will do this year.

Not to mention falks that they still sell iphone 5C for 110 euros and cca 40 euros every month for ***** contract.
And when i see keynote where they say that 5S is now free on contract my stress level goes up.
 
The most expensive phone on earth just got even more expensive. This is not just a currency rate adjustment, this is Apple being arrogant as always, and selling their products at different prices depending on where you buy the product. In France at least, the entry iPhone 6S with 16GB of storage is sold 749€ off-contract. At today's exchange rate, that's $845. The same phone is sold $649 off-contract in the US. That's a same device sold 30% more expensive the eurozone.
 
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I truly sympathize with those whose currency has dropped in value against the dollar (which based on this article is pretty much all currency short of the UK Pound), but alas this price increase is the case for any good imported into a country from the US. Could Apple take the hit and sell it cheaper in other countries, sure they could. Unfortunately in a publicly traded company like Apple, that would never fly. And truthfully at times due to fluctuating currency exchange they actually DO sell it cheaper in other countries based on currency. As we all know though, that doesn't directly reflect in employees salaries in those countries. It will always be a matter of deciding what you can and can not afford.
While I generaly agree with most of your statement, it is very common for consumer product pricing to reflect income level in a specific country...especially by publicly traded companys like car makers, the whole pharm a industrie and so on.
In this specific case Apple chooses to go hardball on the rising dollar...while on the other hand they always take their sweet time to adjust to a lower dollar...plus there is usualy a noticeable gap between US prizes compared to European prices (after subtracting tax, as that is something apple has no control over). I remember when the Euro was rely high, that gap was somewhere between 10-20% for the iMac I was looking for (depending on configuration) and that is something that will not be lightly forgotten by costumers...
Personaly I am in the comfortable situation that I get this years phone on contract anyway, so it won't be that big a deal...on the other hand, if Apple keeps it's the current pricing policy, the iPad Pro will be among the few Apple products that I will skip...partly because for that kind of money there are "real" worktools to be had (for my usage scenario anyways) but mostly because I think Cupertino has gone completely bonkers on pricing (remember, while by no means shipping the most phones they make by far the most profit...and even though that may be a fact that is for some odd reason celebrated by some apple fans, to me as a tech fan it simply means that those products are, at least in comparison to competing products, overpriced)
 
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Prices were higher even when € was stronger than $.
I remember coming to the US in 2012 when 1€ = $1.35 and in Apple Stores you had similar prices in euro and dollar, so for example the same macbook costed $1000 in the US and about €1000 in Europe. Prices seemed lower for european customers, but buying in the US allowed me to save a lots of money thanks to the exchange rate.
Now we have 1€ = 1.10$ so obviously they raised prices in EU and if you can buy stuff during a trip in the US you can still save a lot of money because the exchange rate is not so good but prices are lower.

The problem is that iPhones are now too expensive in the EU and we don't have the new iPhone upgrade program, so we either pay the full price (which is insane) or pay big moneys to mobile carriers. In my country pay as you go is usually more convenient than contracts, so many people used to buy smartphones outright.
Of course iPhone is not food, we can live without the latest and greatest, but we are getting to the point were buying an iPhone is really too expensive and is not worthwhile.
Many people will upgrade less frequently with those prices and that means less money for Apple in the long run
 
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