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You may find the 6+ level of refreshing acceptable (and I can't argue with your own requirements) but is the fact the multitasking capability has been significantly downgraded over the two generations older iPhone 5 acceptable?

I think it's better to ask whether or not something does what it needs to. It does for me, and that's all that matters. I do wish that it had more RAM, sure, but the idea that with a single GB of RAM it was not properly functioning.
 
16 GB for the new base level iPhone? You gotta be kidding. If this is true, Apple obviously cares nothing about user experience. I was shocked that they went with 16 GB for the base level 6, but for the forthcoming 6s - that's unconscionable, and a very good way for a huge number of those who purchase such a model to decide to never buy another iPhone in the future. Taylor Swift, please make an issue of this one too - if this rumor is true somebody needs to knock some sense into the apparent morons at Apple.
 
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1) Is there really one single person here who is surprised that 16gb is the entry level model? Is this mock outrage or are people just that clueless in regards to how Apple operates? Did you think they did the jump to 16 to 64 last time just for funsies? Never to do it again? Really?

2) If you want more, then buy more? No one is forcing you to get the cheapest model. It's meant to be a more bare bones entry level option so people who otherwise might not be able to get on board can get on board. You get every cutting edge hardware and software feature in the world. You just maybe have to be a tiny bit more conscious about what you choose to store on it. (Kind of. Since storage has changed so much since the iPhone began.) Excuse me if I'm not crying you a river.
 
My 6+ is 64GB and I had the 32GB iPhone 5 prior to this. I've just looked and I have 31GB free but could quite easily trim some of my storage. There is a ton of garbage on my phone that I would readily move in order to save 100$.

If constantly managing your storage is what what you enjoy, then a 32GB 6S+ would probably be a dream for you. The picture and video files will be larger, and you'll get to the limit more often, so you'll spend a lot more time collecting garbage than you do now.

For myself, I don't really want to deal with that.

The only people who should get the base model are those who rarely intend to use the camera. That would still be true if the base model came with 32GB.
 
i love how many ppl here think they are so smart as if we r so dumb and need to be explained why apple keeps the 16gb !!
also, if you don't like it, don't buy it is such a weak argument and such a fanboy to the max. ridiculous is ridiculous, no other way to describe it. also, people with this kind of mentality, i hope you never ever complain about anything. lets raise taxes, if you don't like it, don't live here, lets charge 1000 bucks for 128gb, coz if you don't like it, don't buy it..

while company are all for profit and i have no problem with it, but just like many have mentioned, if you truly care about user experience, 16gb can't be enough. constantly to back up, store on iCloud and load them don't seem to be a great experience
 
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The perspective here is that Apple should upgrade 16 GB to 32 GB for free, because they are somehow obligated. People have quickly forgotten that these same price tiers used to get them 16, 32, and 64 GB. Now that 32 and 64 have been upgraded to 64 and 128 GB for free, they feel entitled to 16 being upgraded to 32 for free as well. It really all just depends how you want to look at things. But people tend to go the entitlement route nowadays.



Isn't that their own fault? Sooner or later, if people need more storage, they will realize it and buy an iPhone with more storage and Apple will stop selling 16 GB phones. Let the market do its thing.

For someone tech savvy, yeah it's thier own fault, for many customers who for many years bought Apple products cause they just worked they have no idea what 16Gb means, no, not thier fault.

It's not entitlement, its profit, how much is the jump from 16 to 64? How much do you think the actual ram module costs? If the base model was 32, people would not be upgrading to the next tier. What do you mean upgraded tiers, the iPhone 6 was the most expansive iPhone to date...(128)

It's like all of us buying a 1GB ram iPhone in 2014, our fault?
 
While 16GB at this time is a bad joke, maybe people should start buying 64GB. With a 2 year contract that's not a big difference.
I know it costs more in the beginning, but they will not regret.

Or, plan B , let's start bombarding Tim with 32GB requests.
Well i have a s6 edge 128gb and i dont regret it!!!
 
For someone tech savvy, yeah it's thier own fault, for many customers who for many years bought Apple products cause they just worked they have no idea what 16Gb means, no, not thier fault.

It's not entitlement, its profit, how much is the jump from 16 to 64? How much do you think the actual ram module costs? If the base model was 32, people would not be upgrading to the next tier. What do you mean upgraded tiers, the iPhone 6 was the most expansive iPhone to date...(128)

It's like all of us buying a 1GB ram iPhone in 2014, our fault?
Unless it is your first time buying an iPhone, how can a customer not know how much space they are taking up in their phone after 2 years? I don't think you need to be tech savvy to figure this out. Beyond a certain point, I think customers really need to start taking responsibility for their own purchasing decisions and stop blaming companies.

Did someone point a gun to your head and force you to buy an iPhone in 2014? I presume you went in with your eyes open and decided that a 1gb iPhone still offered a better user experience than the other alternatives out there in the market. By all means, get a Note 3 with its 3gb of ram and 2k display if you prefer the better specs.
 
Unless it is your first time buying an iPhone, how can a customer not know how much space they are taking up in their phone after 2 years? I don't think you need to be tech savvy to figure this out. Beyond a certain point, I think customers really need to start taking responsibility for their own purchasing decisions and stop blaming companies.

Did someone point a gun to your head and force you to buy an iPhone in 2014? I presume you went in with your eyes open and decided that a 1gb iPhone still offered a better user experience than the other alternatives out there in the market. By all means, get a Note 3 with its 3gb of ram and 2k display if you prefer the better specs.

You think the average user knows how much space they have used?

Do you know how much space you are currently have left? I bet you have to check.

I have both the iPhone 6 plus and note 3. Having my iPhone freeze on regular occasions and being told multiple times by apple they it's due to memory....not a great experience. No gun, though after all this time, I'm locked in the ecosystem, so silly suggestion.

I have owned every iPhone since the original, the 6 plus is the only one that freezes. I expected apple to sell me a device in which 1gb ram resulted in it running smoothly like previous versions of the iPhone. Same rationale average users use to buy an iPhone without looking at specs. You might realise that apple is not about specs, apple makes decisions for you , you hand over a device and it works great.

Ask your parents or older family members/friends what specs thier phones have, you will get a sense of reality
 
what a joke


2009 - 3G S - VGA video recording (640 by 480) - 16GB base storage

2015 - 6s - 4K video recording (3840 by 2160) - 16GB base storage


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The joke is how all the idiots keep buying them. If no-one bought the 16GB iPhone, Apple wouldn't make them. You can't blame Apple for cashing-in on people's blind stupidity.
 
However, now that there's Apple Music => no more music on your device, it means more space for apps, pics and videos.

Don't know about you, but I do a lot of flying and travelling on the underground, as well as driving in areas with patchy phone signal. So, although I use Spotify, I still download large amounts to my phone to ensure I actually have music to listen to. Internal memory is still very relevant.
 
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I'm okay with this, since I'll buy a 128GB anyway.

But if the next iPhone 6+ has 1GB of RAM, I'm out.

iOS 9 runs amazing on my iPad Air 2. iOS 8.4 is complete garbage on this garbage phone that constantly freezes.
 
You're not contractually obliged to put up with it. All the data on your iPhone is transferrable to Android/Windows Phone etc. The only thing 'locking you in' is yourself.

I'm aware of that. For me it's still the best ecosystem.
 
Kindof desperately needs an upgrade from my 3yo iP5.. so.. I am just gonna get whatever it offers.. But 16GB is definitely not enough tho.. I will probably get the 128GB iP6s
 
You think the average user knows how much space they have used?

Do you know how much space you are currently have left? I bet you have to check.

I have both the iPhone 6 plus and note 3. Having my iPhone freeze on regular occasions and being told multiple times by apple they it's due to memory....not a great experience. No gun, though after all this time, I'm locked in the ecosystem, so silly suggestion.

I have owned every iPhone since the original, the 6 plus is the only one that freezes. I expected apple to sell me a device in which 1gb ram resulted in it running smoothly like previous versions of the iPhone. Same rationale average users use to buy an iPhone without looking at specs. You might realise that apple is not about specs, apple makes decisions for you , you hand over a device and it works great.

Ask your parents or older family members/friends what specs thier phones have, you will get a sense of reality
The average smartphone user keeps his phone for 2 years. You mean to tell me that during all this time, they never once thought to check how much storage they have? I can't tell you how much space I have left exactly, but I have a pretty rough idea. About 30 GB free space in my 64 GB 5s.

Even Apple can only baby its users so much.
 
16GB base = once again NO new iphone for me... My 4S is still good but i'm planning on getting a new one within the year. I could wait till iPhone 7 but I need at least 32GB, and I'm not planning on spending more than 700 euros.

I'm getting myself an Android (Xiaomi Mi4) if Apple disappoints again till then. Sorry.

I am sure you can get a 32 gb 6 for less in autumn.
 
Well i have a s6 edge 128gb and i dont regret it!!!

But the point is Samsung has 32, 64 and 128gb options for the S6 and S6 Edge so you made the choice that 32 and 64gb are not enough. They don't do 16gb to force you to buy the 64 or 128gb model. Very low ball move by Apple.
I see maybe one Android flagship with 16gb (2015 moto x) but historically that phone cost $500 or less; not $650.
 
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The average smartphone user keeps his phone for 2 years. You mean to tell me that during all this time, they never once thought to check how much storage they have? I can't tell you how much space I have left exactly, but I have a pretty rough idea. About 30 GB free space in my 64 GB 5s.

Even Apple can only baby its users so much.

so what, they check once , twice or 10 times, let's say it's says 1.7 GB left, one year to go on thier contract...what does that mean to an average user? Nothing, as they have no idea if it will be enough.

i assume your tech savvy, let's forget the iPhone and average user discussion...


A device with 16gb in 2015 and 12mb camera with 4K video with no option to add storage . Do you see an issue??? I do.
 
I'm okay with this, since I'll buy a 128GB anyway.

But if the next iPhone 6+ has 1GB of RAM, I'm out.

iOS 9 runs amazing on my iPad Air 2. iOS 8.4 is complete garbage on this garbage phone that constantly freezes.

Of course people that are set on buying the 128gb (or 64gb for that matter) won't complain because you already know that even 16/32gb won't suit your needs. It's the low ball move of squeezing people for another $100 for 64gb vs the extra $1 to $5 just to increase the base storage from 16 to 32gb.
 
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so what, they check once , twice or 10 times, let's say it's says 1.7 GB left, one year to go on thier contract...what does that mean to an average user? Nothing, as they have no idea if it will be enough.

i assume your tech savvy, let's forget the iPhone and average user discussion...

A device with 16gb in 2015 and 12mb camera with 4K video with no option to add storage . Do you see an issue??? I do.
The main issue I see here is people ragging on the 16 GB iPhone model like it is the only variant in existence. A 32 GB model is not going to be enough for 4k recording at any rate (a 45-min hd video clip a least takes up 9 GB of storage)?

My proposed solution is to drop the 16 and 32 GB base model altogether and offer the 64 GB version as the new entry level model at $299. Like you said, if Apple truly cares about the user experience, they will ship a device with enough base storage to handle photos and video and apps. And the people who want an iPhone will continue to pay for one, regardless of the price.
 
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