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How much more are you willing to pay for that 32GB device over the current 16GB offering?

Let's say it costs $10 to double the storage to 32GB (IHS thinks it's $47 to get to 128GB, probably biased towards the higher end of storage), and a third of their unit sales are low end devices-- you just hit their profit by $1,000,000,000.

So it's ok to provide yesteryear specs in order to keep the billions rolling in? What they would spend in extra storage space they would save in the piddling amount of RAM they put in these phones. I just don't understand some of the defenders on here, it's like they own Apple or something and each dollar saved somehow goes into their own bank account.
 
So it's ok to provide yesteryear specs in order to keep the billions rolling in? What they would spend in extra storage space they would save in the piddling amount of RAM they put in these phones. I just don't understand some of the defenders on here, it's like they own Apple or something and each dollar saved somehow goes into their own bank account.
Why must people that don't agree with you be labeled "defenders"? You want people to respect your opinion but you refuse to respect other's opinions. :rolleyes:
 
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Sadly i see the 16gb as ploy for people spending more and upgrading to the 64gb. Also makes the iPhone seem cheaper :)

Let's me honest, all of us on here will go for the 64gb model at least, apple gets the extra money.

No, all of us won't go for the 64GB model at least, haven't you read the posts?
 
Why must people that don't agree with you be labeled "defenders"? You want people to respect your opinion but you refuse to respect other's opinions. :rolleyes:

I have no qualms with people disagreeing with me, nor with people who genuinely only need 16GB of storage. It's those who blindly defend everything Apple do who kinda frustrate. I mean, how can you possibly defend a 16GB base storage model as a consumer in 2015?
 
They only make the 16gb because people buy it.

If you stop buying it, they'll stop making it, is that simple.

I get the whole "vote with your wallet" concept, but in this case it isn't that simple.

If you refuse to buy the 16GB model, you'll have to go with the 64GB model. In that case, you spend $100 more, as you buy into the upsell. That doesn't really show Apple anything, because you're now giving them more money.

The other option would be to not buy an iPhone, which is inconvenient for us iPhone users and missing the point because we WANT to buy an iPhone.

It would be different if this was Android: Samsung refuses to offer a 32GB base model? Go with HTC who does and still enjoy Android. Here though, Apple has us backed into a corner. If you want an iPhone, you must buy into their pricing model.

People are right, the 16GB sells so well that Apple has no reason to increase the base storage. They'll make a ton of money because of the following they have.
 
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I have no qualms with people disagreeing with me, nor with people who genuinely only need 16GB of storage. It's those who blindly defend everything Apple do who kinda frustrate. I mean, how can you possibly defend a 16GB base storage model as a consumer in 2015?
But see, you are disrespecting other's opinions just by saying that. I can easily defend the 16GB storage. Here's how. My best friend and I both bought Verizon iPhone 6Plus's when they were first announced. I argued him down left right and sideways to go with me and get 64GB of storage. He's a music producer and takes lots of pictures so I would expect him to use his storage far more than me. Well guess what, I bought the 64GB and he decided on the 16GB to save money.

He's barely used half the storage, just as he said he would. You guys (and myself at times) need to stop thinking like a geek or a techie and think everybody's needs are just like yours. You're kidding yourself if you think that the majority thinks like most of the people on this forum. They don't. If they did, Apple wouldn't bother making the 16GB as the base model because they know they could charge more if the base model was 32GB. They are obviously getting quite a bit of business from customers buying the 16GB model.
 
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So it's ok to provide yesteryear specs in order to keep the billions rolling in? What they would spend in extra storage space they would save in the piddling amount of RAM they put in these phones. I just don't understand some of the defenders on here, it's like they own Apple or something and each dollar saved somehow goes into their own bank account.

It's astounding isn't it? How people are blindly loyal to a brand they'll make up nonsense excuses for a multi-billion dollar that is cheating out on their products even when they charge premium prices.

As much as I love my iphone 6 plus, it baffles me why they couldn't just add 2gb ram. There is no justification for it.
 
Am I wrong in thinking that most states don't pay sales tax? I know Florida is like 7% and California is a bit more but I thought when you buy online you're exempt unless it's coming from your state

If you are ordering online (Apple online store) Apple must add appropriate state sales tax to any purchase made by a person living in a state where Apple has a 'brick and mortar' Apple Store. I believe there are only one or two states that don't have sales tax.
 
So, in the iPhone 6 logic board we can see the A8 chip, in the supposed 6s logic board, in the same place, we can see there is an unmarked chip in the same place, i think it must be the A9. Why don't you disassemble this chip? take it to Chipworks so they can put it under their microscopes? so we can see number of cores, amount of Ram, GPU, manufacturing process, etc
 

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So many apologists here once again,

Sad to see so many consumers excusing Apple's unwillingness to move away from 16GB as standard, nobody would be against it - even users who would be satisfied with just 16GB, it'd just be more space at the end of the day for the same price.

At the end of the day increasing to 32GB would counter a lot of criticism against Apple and earn a lot of goodwill with consumers, app/file sizes have grown considerably in the last few years, not scaling internal storage alongside these changes is just inexcusable.
 
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So, in other words, you're ignoring the data and sticking to your story.

Nobody is being fooled. They're selling about 300 million devices a year. It's possible I suppose, that all those people are foolish and you are among the few enlightened ones. I suspect though that it's more likely that people are buying a package not a single spec and, in total, they're willing to take a package with 8, 16, 64 or 128GB.

If they only did 16GB, I'd agree there would be some backlash, but since they're not only doing 16GB, I don't see the source of discontent. If anyone is trying to fool anyone, I'd say it's those of you who are trying to make the existence of a low end device seem like a crisis.

Nope, you are misunderstanding one chart. You should see the growth of other brands and the quantity of smartphones et all sold by them. If you think apple should stick to 16GB because of this one chart then you only understand supply/demand simplistically and erroneously. Hell, that is the whole reason apple decided to increase the size of the iPhones in the current gen and brought the ipad mini. It's been around 6 years since apple bumped the SSD the last time. In 6 years SSD has gone way down in the price that now they don't have an excuse to charge $100 more for 16GB. If they had an expansion slot then there would be no backlash, but there will be if they stay at 16gb. Just downloading all the apple apps for iOS will take a good chunk out of that 16GB, LMK when you record your 4K 5 sec video, because even w cloud and LTE the 16 size can't handle todays tech that is inside its own machine. BTW you are mixing the words low end device w small SSD, not the same.
 
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I have no qualms with people disagreeing with me, nor with people who genuinely only need 16GB of storage. It's those who blindly defend everything Apple do who kinda frustrate. I mean, how can you possibly defend a 16GB base storage model as a consumer in 2015?


Wow, you're really on a tear today. If I had a dollar for each of your posts....

Did you seriously ask how people can defend a 16GB iPhone? I'll tell you why - because they provide enough storage for a significant chunk of the market. My wife has never filled any of her iPhones for the last 5 years. Neither have my kids (who seem quite adept at managing their storage). I'm the only one in our household that has a 64GB device that's actually close to full.

And implying people who defend Apple for making a 16GB iPhone are "blind"? Let me guess - you're smarter than the rest of us and the only "enlightened" one here, and we should listen to you. That's really all I get from reading your trash.
 
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But see, you are disrespecting other's opinions just by saying that. I can easily defend the 16GB storage. Here's how. My best friend and I both bought Verizon iPhone 6Plus's when they were first announced. I argued him down left right and sideways to go with me and get 64GB of storage. He's a music producer and takes lots of pictures so I would expect him to use his storage far more than me. Well guess what, I bought the 64GB and he decided on the 16GB to save money.

He's barely used half the storage, just as he said he would. You guys (and myself at times) need to stop thinking like a geek or a techie and think everybody's needs are just like yours. You're kidding yourself if you think that the majority thinks like most of the people on this forum. They don't. If they did, Apple wouldn't bother making the 16GB as the base model because they know they could charge more if the base model was 32GB. They are obviously getting quite a bit of business from customers buying the 16GB model.

My biggest gripe with that is that it's the principle of thing. As technology advances, it gets cheaper, and the end users are supposed to benefit as it progresses.

Take TV's for example. 1080p TV's are now very affordable, because the technology has advanced past that into 4K, etc, which has made the older tech for 1080p cheaper. All manufactures have cheapened their TV's.

You could easily argue that most people would not notice the difference between 720p and 1080p, so why even bother making most of their TV's full HD?

I'm guessing part of the answer is because of competition. No TV manufacturer wants to be "the one" who is still offering 720p TV's for the same price as their competitors' 1080p ones. Even if most consumers can't tell the difference or don't care, 1080p still sounds better, and so the consumer gets a better product.

Here, Apple is resisting the general rule of thumb for technology, and getting away with it.
 
What we must see:
- Force Touch
- 2 GB of RAM DDR4
- 'lil bit better battery life
- Better camera
- Faster LTE
- 7000 series aluminum

What i wanted to see:
- 1080p AMOLED/Quantum Dot IPS display.
- Force Touch
- 2 GB of RAM DDR4
- Better battery life
- Better camera
- Faster LTE
- MiMo wifi
- 7000 series aluminum
- No protruding camera
 
So many apologists here once again,

Sad to see so many consumers excusing Apple's unwillingness to move away from 16GB as standard, nobody would be against it - even users who would be satisfied with just 16GB, it'd just be more space at the end of the day for the same price.

At the end of the day increasing to 32GB would counter a lot of criticism against Apple and earn a lot of goodwill with consumers, app/file sizes have grown considerably in the last few years, not scaling internal storage alongside these changes is just inexcusable.
Apologists??? I take offense to your comment. I don't see one person here that said, "I think Apple is doing the right thing with 16GB and 32GB should not be considered as the base". Not a single person has said that. If you're going to rudely label people here for not being totally against what Apple is doing, then the ones that hate what Apple is doing deserve a label too. Must we consistently disrespect others on this forum??
 
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