Well I would say you're attempting at some comedy. But I could always check with the moderator to see if you're kidding or not, seeing as it's against the forum rules to have more than one account.
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'iPhone 6s' Logic Board Suggests 16GB Base Model and Updated NFC Hardware
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2GB is most likely a given since they up'd the ram on the iPad Air 2 to 2GB. Unless it's 4GB this forum will be complaining.
Woah, managed to get under someone's skin there...
Literally post #29 is the first in many making excuses as to how 16GB is acceptable in 2015. By literal definition being an apologist ("a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial.").
"I take offense to your comment." ...okay? You can't honestly expect that to hold any weight in a public, anonymous forum.
I also don't understand your hypocrisy getting annoyed about users apparently disrespecting each other within the forum yet labelling me rude. But you know, it's the internet - nothing to get sensitive about.
Yes, it's ok to offer a different combination of features than you personally would like and profit from that decision. That's how the system works. I'm sorry you want to live in a utopia where everyone gets their own personally designed iPhone for free, from each according to their ability and to each according to their particular spec sheet, but that's not how it works.
There's really nothing for me to defend. 75 million units sold last quarter, and an overwhelming share of the industry profit defends it. Most people don't agree with you-- that's just how it is. You have to step back and realize that you are obsessing on one feature of a complicated product that you think is the most important to you. That's fine, but it's not how the rest of the world shops. Most people make a decision on the total product.
If you ask anybody, "would you like this particular feature to be better at no added cost and without compromising other features?" they'll probably say yes. But that's a nonsense question to ask.
I have a 64GB iPhone 5. I haven't bought the last few iterations because nothing ticked my fancy. When I do, I'll buy the 128GB. I wish there were a higher capacity iPad, but there isn't.
So, how do I defend the 16GB iPhone? I don't have to. It sells. People want it. People different from me. I'm happy the product exists to satisfy those people. If someone said to me "I don't want a 16GB iPhone, I need more storage than that!" I would point out that it isn't the only device available. If Apple sold a 2GB iPhone that people were buying, I still wouldn't complain. None of this threatens my way of life.
Cheating is a strong claim! How exactly are they cheating?! Are they claiming it's a 32GB device that really only has a 16GB chip in it? Or a 2GB RAM device that only has 1?
Or is the problem, deep down, that you wish Apple would send you a billion dollar check with every phone you purchase?
Not understanding why you have yourself all twisted up about a product you obviously don't want to buy anyway is a far cry from blind loyalty...
yes yes this explains a lot. have you ever considered thinking outside the box?
I can definitely agree with your post 100%. However TV manufacturers have unfortunately given too much too fast and that's why the TV industry is having problems with profitability. I am so happy I bought too large Plasmas before they disappeared. Now the name of the game is "Top this TV and Top that TV" because OLED is the only thing good out there and it's too expensive and not worth it weight, and 4K LCD's are still really crap TV's with 4K. You can now get a 4K LCD at Walmart. Now what's next. Sometimes manufacturers have to slow down a bit on throwing in the kitchen sink or else there's no room for innovations.
That'll be the same market that doesn't mind browser & app reloads I presume?
I'm sorry but there are plenty here who will defend 16GB of storage and 1GB of RAM to the death, so long as Apple supply a branded casket.
Whatever Mrs Slocombe who works at the knitting shop needs, or someone's kids, or their wife, the bottom line is that 32GB base storage is *the industry standard* for a premium smartphone. Quite why Apple see it as a 100$ 'upgrade' is beyond most of us.
Well, you should learn some forum manners. Apparently you don't feel the need to respect others here.
Their is nothing wrong with Apples customers wanting better value for money for the 'billions' they make in profit every quarter, and giving customers 32GB is part of that. That's what people want from Apple, to move into 2015 and offer their customers specs that make sense.
What do you have against that? Do you have shares in Apple?
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No matter what Apple does there are posters complaining.
4 GB is overkill, 3 GB would be very very future proof, but 2 GB is really enough. iPhone 6 should already had 2 GB, Apple has being really irresponsible with their choices of RAM amount: people with 6 and 6+ are complaining of app and tab refresh, although apps and OS use less ram than in other OS', web tabs use the same, so it was really time for 2 GB when the 6 was introduced.
We can pretty much say that every gig of RAM an iPhone has is equal to 2 GB on Android devices (plain android, without skins), but you can see that today most high end Android devices have 3 GB of RAM (equivalent to 1.5 GB on iPhone), that's why today on most multitasking test the iphone lose the comparision.
32GB base storage, 3GB of RAM and less standout bugs in iOS? I'd be totally content with that.
I said this an earlier post here, but because I don't need 64.
Right now, my music library is a little over 5GB, my photos a little over 2GB, and my apps range between 2-4GB. I have BARELY any breathing room (though at least with Apple Music I can just stream my library, but I want to be able to save it locally to not destroy my data plan).
I don't need 64GB. I need just a little more than 16. Heck, If I could just use the actual 16GB of my phone and not just 12, then it wouldn't be as big an issue.
Why should I spend another $100 just because I need an extra GB or 2 of space? Just make 32GB the entry level.
Not surprising. I recall back in 06-07 when I looked into Mac Laptops, the storage was usually 250GB HDD, and 2GB of RAM (If I recall) when high end Windows machines were 4GB and 500GB HDD for a bit less. The display on the 15" MBP was 1440x900 I believe when the Windows machines around that price were at 1920x1080. I am not sure about the overall screen quality though. The MacBooks had a really good build though of course and really nice included software.
Apple has always been like this. It SHOULD be 32/64/128 since that is what the S6 is at currently. It looks like it won't be so hopefully they stuff they add is really nice. I wouldn't get too worked up over it, I understand it is frustrating for some and I get that, but this is standard fare for them. It would take the mainstream media to start bringing these type of things up to make the mass of people who buy iPhones to start asking questions.
For myself, I am okay with spending the extra for the 64GB when it drops down a little since I like to buy off contract. If the price is too high then I will get something else when the time to get a new phone comes around.
My ideal Apple would be: iMac pros that had a riser in the back where you could easily swap the HDD and RAM and perhaps even the video card. Macbook Pro's that were a little beefier and wit user replaceable HDD and Ram as well. A headless iMac with an i5 and a 970 for $1399, user could replace of course since it would be a normal desktop. The return of the Mac pro (Biggie) with a proper graphics card for $1799 starting and up depending on specs. The nMP could stay as an option, I wouldn't care. Cool machine.
iPads and iPhones would have a micro SD card slot which would solve a lot of storage issues. Make them thicker by a few mm's if it increases battery life. Hardly anyone would notice if it was a tinge thicker, that is all in people's heads.
My ideal Apple will never exist though so I roll with the punches.
OH, and no more Ive talking in front of a white background, customization options for those of us who don't like our OS to look like a teenage girl OS skin and there ya go. I do like parts of Yosemite and the current iOS, just overall it does look like something teenage girls would pick if there was options for about five themes.
Apple has always been like this. It SHOULD be 32/64/128 since that is what the S6 is at currently. It looks like it won't be so hopefully they stuff they add is really nice. I wouldn't get too worked up over it, I understand it is frustrating for some and I get that, but this is standard fare for them. It would take the mainstream media to start bringing these type of things up to make the mass of people who buy iPhones to start asking questions.
For myself, I am okay with spending the extra for the 64GB when it drops down a little since I like to buy off contract. If the price is too high then I will get something else when the time to get a new phone comes around.
My ideal Apple would be: iMac pros that had a riser in the back where you could easily swap the HDD and RAM and perhaps even the video card. Macbook Pro's that were a little beefier and wit user replaceable HDD and Ram as well. A headless iMac with an i5 and a 970 for $1399, user could replace of course since it would be a normal desktop. The return of the Mac pro (Biggie) with a proper graphics card for $1799 starting and up depending on specs. The nMP could stay as an option, I wouldn't care. Cool machine.
iPads and iPhones would have a micro SD card slot which would solve a lot of storage issues. Make them thicker by a few mm's if it increases battery life. Hardly anyone would notice if it was a tinge thicker, that is all in people's heads.
My ideal Apple will never exist though so I roll with the punches.
OH, and no more Ive talking in front of a white background, customization options for those of us who don't like our OS to look like a teenage girl OS skin and there ya go. I do like parts of Yosemite and the current iOS, just overall it does look like something teenage girls would pick if there was options for about five themes.
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If apple can sell a device with adequate ram, why not storage? Seems people are buying them right. In my opinion 1gb ram is already inadequate for smooth operation (first iPhone to suffer constant freezes) , and for a 12mb camera with 4k recording, 16 is inadequate.
What I find interesting on this forum, is that people who defend the 16 GB phone have a larger capacity.
I do see your point though. I believe Apple is selling millions of here units (16gb) and many might be happy, though at the same time the rest of suckers who need more than 16gb are happily handing over money to go next tier
win win for apple.
Was an assumption, relax, I'd expect most tech savvy people on MR to upgrade from the base. I've read many people regretting getting the 16gb, not many regretting the 64. There you go ,did not say "all"
geezWas an assumption, relax, I'd expect most tech savvy people on MR to upgrade from the base. I've read many people regretting getting the 16gb, not many regretting the 64. There you go ,did not say "all"
64GB is a decent size and enough for most, at least they gave us something by making 64GB the middle option.
They only cut some slack to those who buy the larger capacity iPhones in the first place.
Those who would normally buy 64GB got a 50% price reduction. For the rest of us, the pricing plan continued as normal. 16GB insufficient but 20-30GB fine? Well that will still cost you $100 Sir.
Was an assumption, relax, I'd expect most tech savvy people on MR to upgrade from the base. I've read many people regretting getting the 16gb, not many regretting the 64. There you go ,did not say "all"
"Let's me honest, all of us on here will go for the 64gb model at least, apple gets the extra money."
1920x1080 on Windows Laptops in 06-07? Are you serious? Even in 2010 that was very very rare. In 06-07 1280x720 or 1366x768 were Standard, even in higher end laptops. Having FullHD in Laptops is still a pretty recent that was triggered by Apple's move to retina displays.
The fact we've had stories of Apple negotiating with Samsung for some components of the iPhone 6S/6S+ even now suggests if the price is right, the iPhone 6S and 6S+ will now come with 32 GB of flash memory as minimum storage, especially with the offline storage option for Apple Music.
I'm believe I recall seeing a few with that resolution back then. Sometimes the years blur together, but I am 90% certain. They were expensive from what I recall. Most were Standard Res of course.
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And I have no issue with that.
You make it sound like some unpardonable sin that all companies are obviously in it for the money. Let Apple put out the products specced the way they want, then let consumers vote with their money as to what and how they want to spend.
Don't want an iPhone with 16 GB? Then don't buy one. I for one know I will be upgrading to a 64 GB iPhone 6s+ later this year (in the very least; I might go with 128 just because) and I know I will be using it very happily, and not wasting my youth throwing a hissy fit here.