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We're talking about 5 years in a row the same entry memory space. While in those years we've gotten better camera's and bigger apps. With means that the files created are a fair amount bigger then they were back in 2010. Android flagship phones all come with 32GB, a chip that would nowadays cost Apple like $1 with probably very little to none extra research and development costs.
And saying that 16GB is enough is just stupid, no it isn't enough and yes from a $700 flagship phone you're allowed to expect more. Upgrading everything but the storage is a dirty way to make an extra $100. Brilliant because they will get away with it, but for us 'consumers' it's just bananas..

I actually don't get it either, and agree with what you've said. My only guess is that the cell companies are demanding such a model to help push a quicker upgrade cycle... and of course that isn't bad for Apple's current spreadsheets. But, it is bad for UX, and that's why I wonder if anyone is home at the head of Apple these days.
 
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Wrong. The first iPhone to ship a base model with 16GB was the iPhone 5 in 2012. It has only been three years.

Actually I think the iPhone 4 shipped with 16/32GB configurations and that 8GB variant was introduced later on when it was dropped to the cheaper/free contract tiers. At least my old launch day iPhone 4 is 32GB and I'm fairly confident I upgraded the storage by just one increment.
 
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Can't believe some people here are OK with apple doing this. Apple has been having record profits quarter after quarter so clearly they are not hurting for money and the technology DID advance to the point where 16gb-32gb difference in cost is almost negligible yet they still want to force people to fork more money for something that should have there in the first place. Besides it's not like you get the full 16gb either that's why people complain you get like 12gb with nothing more than stock apps.
 
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We're talking about 5 years in a row the same entry memory space. While in those years we've gotten better camera's and bigger apps. With means that the files created are a fair amount bigger then they were back in 2010. Android flagship phones all come with 32GB, a chip that would nowadays cost Apple like $1 with probably very little to none extra research and development costs.
And saying that 16GB is enough is just stupid, no it isn't enough and yes from a $700 flagship phone you're allowed to expect more. Upgrading everything but the storage is a dirty way to make an extra $100. Brilliant because they will get away with it, but for us 'consumers' it's just bananas..

You're basically arguing that the iPhone should cost less. Going back & forth over an optional low amount of storage is senseless, so are price comparisons to Android devices. You want Apple to make the iPhone cheaper. While they're at it, they could make Macs cheaper. And they might, if people stopped buying them. Why would they lower the price otherwise? Not to mention the apparent stress that paying $100 is causing... It's probably not worth worrying about :)
 
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That might have been the 4S. Here is the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone If true, then it's been 4 years with 16GB as the base model.

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/23...ap-8gb-iphone-4-to-be-released-with-iphone-5/ has "But this new iPhone 4 model will reportedly sport 8GB of storage (current versions only come in 16 or 32GB) and would be intended for emerging markets that don’t exactly require the highest-end of the highest-end."

I also just powered up my iPhone 4 to verify that it's 32GB and I've never taken two upgrade steps (as even the one makes the phone rather expensive).
 
My situation is same for a lot of folks. I can afford the $750 for the 64gb but i don't want to spend more than $650 just because they are forcing me to do so via cheap tactics. If that 64gb offered more than just storage it will be justifiable and not cheap to upgrade to said model. This is not happening here at all.
 
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My situation is same for a lot of folks. I can afford the $750 for the 64gb but i don't want to spend more than $650 just because they are forcing me to do so via cheap tactics. If that 64gb offered more than just storage it will be justifiable and not cheap to upgrade to said model. This is not happening here at all.

My annoyance is slightly different. I'm currently running a 64GB iPhone 6, so buying the capacity I need isn't a problem when I'm buying the phone myself. However, recently our work phone selection expanded to the iPhone, but the price limits allow only the base model. I'm due for an upgrade, but if the only model that fits into the budget is crippled with severely insufficient storage, I'll have to put off the upgrade for at least a year or get some crappy Windows Phone instead. If the 6s shipped with 32GB base storage, I could live with that and give my current 6 to my wife to replace her iPhone 5.

Of course there's also the fact that a late 2015 allegedly premium flagship phone shipping with 16GB of storage is ridiculous, user-hostile, shortsighted, and downright BS.
 
I wish Apple would just change to 32/64/128. Apple's cost to go to 32 from 16 can't be more than 5-10 bucks. With the mobile companies now pushing new plans that require purchasing the phone separate, people will hold onto phones longer. 16 is pretty useless now for many people and I don't think Aplle will be able to hold that price point without adding memory. There is only so much else that can be added to the iPhone.
 
That video comparing the two iPads was the biggest waste of life. I want my time back.

Nothing he did was done at the same time as each other. Fail.
 
The iPhone 6 is unusable at 16gb. Unless you use cloud, or back up files to a hard drive and delete photos/videos/music. Or if you never install any apps. Otherwise it's unusable at these resolutions, I gotta agree it's crazy. Especially how they tried to market it like it was a good thing; hey we're dropping the 32 and increasing the $100 upgrade to a 64! Crickets on the default remaining at 16...
 
even games like real racing takes up 1.2GB...so really you can have nothing like that choosing a 16GB phone.

My mom is going to have to settle for that as can't afford the higher model
 
That might have been the 4S. Here is the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone If true, then it's been 4 years with 16GB as the base model.
I'm not very sure about iP4's base model (whether it was 8 or 16GB), but I very clearly remember that when I bought my first iP4S in Hong Kong (and not my native country) during the first 3-4 months after its launch, the base was 16GB and if I'm not mistaken there was no 64GB version... Even today some carriers in my native country (Turkey) are still selling ip4S with 8GB but this version was definitely introduced later onwards the initial launching of 4S. It may be that iP5 was the first model coming with a 64GB memory but never went down to 8GB though the iP5C evolved with 16 & 32GB but again later stepped down to a 8GB version...

Amendment: Wiki contradicts me!... Indeed ip4S should be the first iPhone coming with 64GB memory. Yep, I now recall that this version was pretty horribly priced in Hong Kong at the date I purchased mine (these were actually grey imports from USA, not iPhone 4S destined for HKG market) and also pretty scarce.
 
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Can't believe some people here are OK with apple doing this. Apple has been having record profits quarter after quarter so clearly they are not hurting for money and the technology DID advance to the point where 16gb-32gb difference in cost is almost negligible yet they still want to force people to fork more money for something that should have there in the first place. Besides it's not like you get the full 16gb either that's why people complain you get like 12gb with nothing more than stock apps.
I am indifferent, in that I intend to get the 64gb version anyways and what Apple has done is actually make it cheaper for me to get the model that I want.

Whether the base model stays at 16gb or gets bumped to 32gb is completely immaterial to me.
 
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16GB base = once again NO new iphone for me... My 4S is still good but i'm planning on getting a new one within the year. I could wait till iPhone 7 but I need at least 32GB, and I'm not planning on spending more than 700 euros.

I'm getting myself an Android (Xiaomi Mi4) if Apple disappoints again till then. Sorry.


It's interesting that there are so many thumbs up for the comments prior to this one that mention how bad a 16GB base model is, but this one has the fewest: I am guessing that's why apple do it: we all complain, but we don't support a move away. What might bite apple in the proverbial is that many of us that stick around due to legacy shackles, no longer tell others to come over to our side. I now tell Android users that I envy them.

This is the kind of grass roots discomfort that big corps miss and then they are shocked that someone who has been listening comes in an nicks market share.

I imagine Apple will have all sorts of stats showing that most people don't use 16GB and therefore it's a good model. What they miss is that those that keep the hype going use loads more than that any they are losing their willingness to be the voices of Apple. It's a part of their marketing strategy that they seem to have either missed of forgotten about.

It is the cycle of it all.
 
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Wrong. The first iPhone to ship a base model with 16GB was the iPhone 5 in 2012. It has only been three years.

No. The first model was the 3GS.

iPhone 3GS offers twice the capacity for the same price with a 16GB model for just $199 and a new 32GB model for just $299.** And beginning today, iPhone 3G is available at the breakthrough price of just $99 for the 8GB model—a huge milestone for the high end smartphone market​
 
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16GB was the base model at launch. The 8GB variant was introduced later on when iP4 dropped to the lower price points. So we're "celebrating" 5 years of 16GB launch time base storage.
Wouldn't it be 4 years? iPhone 4S > iPhone 5 > iPhone 5S > iPhone > iPhone 6S -- > 4 years.
 
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