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I'm curious about this too as the data is a bit surprising. Seems that the S7 non-edge variant would be more popular than a two year old iPhone 6, particularly in other parts of the world where android in general is more popular.

I try to make a mental note of all new phones I see out in the wild and I have seen 1 s7 non edge. Granted that's not a scientific poll, it does seem to fit with this article.

Samsung is recalling all note 7s sold and there was what, 2.5 million? That's almost a full month after release. I bet iPhone 7 passes that in a day of pre orders
 
As consumer replacement cycles continue to slow and ASPs drop, the importance of service revenue like apps and Music will become more important. In that space unit volume of phones is very important. I agree Apple will never compete with the lowest tier of phones but they'll have no choice but to muscle into the middle tier, which is $200 - $400.


Well said.
 
Most impressive iPhone since the 4, in my opinion. Stonkingly good hardware. Touch ID is instantaneous. I personally don't mind the design, protruding camera and all.
The protruding camera would be more of an issue if 80% of the users didn't put it in a case - with one of Apple's official (very thin) cases on, the camera is slightly recessed and thus protected, and the phone is grippier. I think Apple decided that if everyone was going to use a case anyway, then they were going to go to town on having a better camera sensor/lens.
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Lol at that obsolete thing. Can't wait to see the 7 tomorrow.
Tomorrow the 7 will get unveiled and everyone will clap. On Thursday, they'll all be back here saying, "yeah, but what have you done for me lately."
 
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Most impressive iPhone since the 4, in my opinion. Stonkingly good hardware. Touch ID is instantaneous. I personally don't mind the design, protruding camera and all.

I'd agree with the statement, 'since the 4'.

That in itself though is testament to the pinnacle of the iPhone; the 4 will stand as one of the greatest and revolutionary pieces of mass-market consumer tech this planet will ever see.

Retina Display, 720p video recording, forward facing camera with a fantastic video chat system (FaceTime). Not to mention a stunning, superb design with super precise components.

Honestly; if Apple released the same shell phone again but with 6s/7 performance; I'd buy in a heartbeat.
 
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Eh, 4,2% marketshare?

Wonder how much Samsung cares about that if their products have over 50% market share.
 
Most impressive iPhone since the 4, in my opinion. Stonkingly good hardware. Touch ID is instantaneous. I personally don't mind the design, protruding camera and all.

All the features of the 6S in a SE minus the protruding camera. So happy to go back to this size from the 6.
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Eh, 4,2% marketshare?

Wonder how much Samsung cares about that if their products have over 50% market share.

Not so nice to have 50% market share when that market share is cheap models that made no money for them
 
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All the features of the 6S in a SE minus the protruding camera. So happy to go back to this size from the 6.
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Not so nice to have 50% market share when that market share is cheap models that made no money for them
Well, Nokia made a fortune by selling a lot of cheap phones. Now Samsung has that share.
 
Shocker...

A story like this with little opportunity for Apple hating and bashing receive relatively few comments. Speaks volumes about the demographics of commenters on MR.

Also, please... Somebody let Tim Cook know he can keep his job after all. :)
 
I have 6s Plus and I'm glad with it. I don't expect that I'll buy new one. Only if they will improve camera quality in low light what is so annoying, especially if you buying phone for 1000€.
I had before Huawei P8 (for someone another Chinese phone), but the camera in low light was awesome. You can see it below. If iPhone 7 will make those pictures also I'll buy it immediately

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I've heard a lot of different reasons for people wanting to keep the 3.5 jack, but yours is the first to argue keeping it for "design reasons."
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The jury is still out on how much growth there is, e.g., people are still switching from Android and other platforms, at a great rate, in fact the last six months set a record. And if 2015 wasn't such a record setting year, 2016 would be seen as a great year. But beyond that suggesting that Apple tries to compete with $100 phones on a cost basis is never going to happen. That's not who they are, and there isn't any point since there's nothing but losses there. There's a reason they and Samsung have 99% of industry profits.

I think its great thought that paper boys / girls and folks from 3rd world countries can enjoy the benefits of a smartphone - pocket computer- like say the Moto E (which I own myself for GPM in car and a unlocked back up phone) for approx $52.00 and upgrade the SD to 128 GB for an extra $47.00
 
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Most impressive iPhone since the 4, in my opinion. Stonkingly good hardware. Touch ID is instantaneous. I personally don't mind the design, protruding camera and all.

The 6s was honestly a home run iPhone. In my opinion, Bullet proof with the A9 processor, M9 Coprocessor, Battery life.

And 3D Touch was not important to me at first, then I realized how much of a convenience short cut it was, where I use it all the time. And more and more third party applications are jumping on board too.

If someone was not interested in the iPhone 7, the 6s would be a great Phone for years to come.
 
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I wish I could share the excitement about the 6s. Apparently I have the worst luck in the world with technology. My phone is crapping out at the moment and Apple attempted to send me a replacement. I say attempted because FedEx was involved and they're a bunch of imbeciles.

My phone has restarted on its own twice since yesterday, buttons on screen aren't working, etc. Not sure what happened, it wasn't dropped but being so close to the iPhone 7, it's probably not worth getting a replacement.

I'll wait and see what the 7 has. It'll be tempting if it has 256gb but I'm liking the Nexus 6P or Galaxy 7 as other possibilities. The iPhone is the only thing left I'm using from Apple so I'm not as invested in Apple as I once was. Granted, I have a lot of bought content in iTunes, but I can migrate that to another device easy enough.

Every time I call Apple these days, I'm met with at least a 10 minute wait on the phone (today I waited 16 minutes until an advisor picked up). I was given misinformation and made a trek to the Apple Store which was a huge waste of time based on the guidance of said advisor. To me, Apple is not the company it once was 2-3 years ago.
 
Just hope they get rid of the home button. After using Android smartphones without a physical button, it just seems old-tech to press a button lol. I wish my Galaxy Note 7 didn't have one; it's a nuisance.

I love double tapping the home button on the note 7 to launch the camera.
 
If Strategy Analytics is anything like J.D. Power the research is paid by the award recipient to say what it wants. That appears to be the case when I Google the company. I worked for a company that won a J.D. Power award.

Strategy Analytics helps clients build defensible, distinctive strategies to win in complex technology markets.
 
I moved over to iPhone almost 2 yrs ago, after 5 years of waiting waiting waiting on Windows Phone. I came over to iPhone 6 Plus, then upgraded to 6s Plus. Couldn't be happier (apart from the garbage of iTunes), absolutely love my 6s Plus. Not sure if I'll go 7 plus - we'll all find out how we feel soon enough. 6s Plus is an absolutely brilliant device, and I'm extremely happy with the camera and horsepower. No complaints here!
 
But there's no growth in the top-tier market that Apple plays in, so they'll have no choice but to go down-market. The SE was the first step.
The "no growth" is a myth. Sure, it's easier to show growth by volume, but again, Apple is not playing that game. Look at the sales of iPhone 6S.

The SE was not the "first step." Believe it or not, the increasing middle-class segment in emerging markets are gravitating towards larger screen flagship (you can see how many people in emerging markets pre-ordering Samsung's Note 7. A lot, despite it costing more than $700-$800 in some places). The SE is exactly what Apple said it is for, for those that are still using iPhone 5S or older and prefer the smaller form factor. Just because it happens to be cheaper than the 6S, doesn't mean it's Apple going "down-market." Besides, the consumer segment looking for cheap phones are looking at $100 - $200 phones. The SE's $399 price is still out of reach for that target segment as it is not much different than the iPhone 5S price point.

Now, a more solid argument is the iPhone upgrade program. This is Apple's way to reach more segments.
 
The "no growth" is a myth. Sure, it's easier to show growth by volume, but again, Apple is not playing that game. Look at the sales of iPhone 6S.

The SE was not the "first step." Believe it or not, the increasing middle-class segment in emerging markets are gravitating towards larger screen flagship (you can see how many people in emerging markets pre-ordering Samsung's Note 7. A lot, despite it costing more than $700-$800 in some places). The SE is exactly what Apple said it is for, for those that are still using iPhone 5S or older and prefer the smaller form factor. Just because it happens to be cheaper than the 6S, doesn't mean it's Apple going "down-market." Besides, the consumer segment looking for cheap phones are looking at $100 - $200 phones. The SE's $399 price is still out of reach for that target segment as it is not much different than the iPhone 5S price point.

Now, a more solid argument is the iPhone upgrade program. This is Apple's way to reach more segments.

Apple has had two quarters of declining unit volumes for iPhone, so no growth is not a myth. Unit sales will bounce between negative growth to slightly positive, in tandem with new models and replacement cycles. But long-term growth is gone. Developed nations are saturated, emerging markets including China have pivoted to lower-cost alternatives. Apple will have to go down-market if it wants to see material unit growth.
 
The 6s has been a very solid phone for me since it came out. I don't have any real complaints about it at all.
 
I bought my 6S in December and it's always had a problem where it will go to no service for about an hour several times a week. It's not the sim card because I have tried numerous other activated sim cards in the 6S and the phone does the same thing. I plan on bringing it to Apple before the warranty expires in December. I just haven't been in a hurry so much because I have a 6S+ and 6+ sitting here as well as numerous Android phones.

If I need to take a picture, I grab either my Note 5 or my S7 Edge. I like the cameras on those phones much better then the iPhone.
 
Just hope they get rid of the home button. After using Android smartphones without a physical button, it just seems old-tech to press a button lol. I wish my Galaxy Note 7 didn't have one; it's a nuisance.
I'm convinced that the only reason Samsung chose to use a mechanical home button years ago when designing the Galaxy series, is because Apple and other smartphones had them.

The first time I used capacitive buttons I was amazed at the speed and accuracy. Having three capacitive buttons below the display ads a level of functionality that iPhones cannot match.

When I pickup my iPhone 6S Plus after using my speedy Nexus 6P, it's clunky mechanical home button that slows things to a crawl.
 
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