iPhone 6s to only have 1GB of RAM?!!!

[bhayes444]

Other phones need to put 3-4gb of ram because Android is a resource pig and requires it to even run as smooth as iOS with 1-2gb.

Not true even in the slightest. Maybe to run the bloated, buggy skins that the manufacturers throw on there. Stock Android has been running fine on 2GB of RAM for a couple years now, and when I had the iPhone 6 the Android devices were more multitasking friendly than the 6.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

 

[eclipse01]

Not true even in the slightest. Maybe to run the bloated, buggy skins that the manufacturers throw on there. Stock Android has been running fine on 2GB of RAM for a couple years now, and when I had the iPhone 6 the Android devices were more multitasking friendly than the 6.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

I will knock it because I have tried it (see my comment above yours)

 

[bhayes444]

I completely agree!

As I stated in another forum the other day, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that is basically dead in the water slow, and an Ipad mini 3. Both have just about the same specs, but my Ipad FLY'S with the latest firmware installed.

The specs are comparable, but not that similar. 2012 Nexus 7 is running with 1GB of RAM and a 32 bit quad core NVidia tegra processor that has terrible support from 2012, not to mention the terrible flash storage they stuck in there which has rendered many of those devices unuseable. The mini 3 matches the 1GB of RAM, but with a very well supported 64 bit processor from 2013. I'd take the mini any day, but that Nexus 7 was cheap for a reason. My wife still has one on 5.1.1 and it is terribly bad. It was good back on Jellybean though...

 

[saintforlife]

Could someone explain what's so bad about 1GB of RAM? I see this a lot on here, but surely if the iPhone runs ok, does it matter? Surely Apple would make sure the phone has adequate memory? Is there any down side to having 2GB RAM? Like using more battery?

If you need to be explained why 2GB of RAM is necessary for optimal iPhone experience, then you are not the target audience for it. With your use case 1GB will be fine and you will still have a great experience. For other that multi-task and have a bunch of Safari tabs open at the same time, 1GB RAM is just not enough.

 

[bhayes444]

I will knock it because I have tried it (see my comment above yours)

See my reply below yours.

 

[lagwagon]

Not true even in the slightest. Maybe to run the bloated, buggy skins that the manufacturers throw on there. Stock Android has been running fine on 2GB of RAM for a couple years now, and when I had the iPhone 6 the Android devices were more multitasking friendly than the 6.

Don't knock it until you've tried it.

So in order to have a properly running Android you need to know what you're doing, delete say "the Samsung skin and carrier bloat" and root a clean Android only copy to your phone just so it runs better? That's stupid and not what the average user would do or even know about.

 

[Broadus]

So is having optimal battery life the reason for Apple's using 1GB instead of 2GB RAM in the iPhones?

 

[timeconsumer]

I cant keep TWO tabs open on my 6 plus without one reloading.

I can sometimes keep two tabs on my 6, but this is becoming a problem as every time it reloads that's more data being used and makes it difficult to preload websites while on wifi to view at a later time.

While it won't be the end of the world, it will definitely have me question my upgrade from a 6 to a 6s as I don't want a bigger phone.

 

[bhayes444]

So in order to have a properly running Android you need to know what you're doing, delete say "the Samsung skin and carrier bloat" and root a clean Android only copy to your phone just so it runs better? That's stupid and not what the average user would do or even know about.

Well, you can't easily delete the skins without unlocking the bootloader. I never said you should take a Samsung device and do that. What is stupid however, is complaining about using Android without actually having used the actual OS without a skin on it. It is not that difficult to find those devices. That's how the OS was made. It is an open source OS, and when a company tweaks it by putting a skin on it, you are buying a phone with an OS based on Android at the core. Argue all you want, but you obviously have no experience with using the actual Android OS, making your arguments pure conjecture.

 

[cynics]

I completely agree!

As I stated in another forum the other day, I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that is basically dead in the water slow, and an Ipad mini 3. Both have just about the same specs, but my Ipad FLY'S with the latest firmware installed.

I disagree. I have one on Lollipop and it runs fine, comparable to the iPad Mini 3 (which imo isn't impressive at all).

Maybe you should try restoring it?

Want to talk about crap performance from 2012 lets talk about the iPad 3. I can say with a great amount of certainty say my N7 on Lollipop runs MUCH MUCH better then my iPad 3 on iOS 8. What a POS that was.

 

[lagwagon]

Well, you can't easily delete the skins without unlocking the bootloader. I never said you should take a Samsung device and do that. What is stupid however, is complaining about using Android without actually having used the actual OS without a skin on it. It is not that difficult to find those devices. That's how the OS was made. It is an open source OS, and when a company tweaks it by putting a skin on it, you are buying a phone with an OS based on Android at the core. Argue all you want, but you obviously have no experience with using the actual Android OS.

No thanks, I'll stick to my perfectly running iPhones and not waste my time rooting an Android phone or hunting down a specific phone that doesn't have manufacture/carrier skins. The fact still remains nearly all Android phones need bigger specs to run just as good.

 

[timeconsumer]

Well, you can't easily delete the skins without unlocking the bootloader. I never said you should take a Samsung device and do that. What is stupid however, is complaining about using Android without actually having used the actual OS without a skin on it. It is not that difficult to find those devices. That's how the OS was made. It is an open source OS, and when a company tweaks it by putting a skin on it, you are buying a phone with an OS based on Android at the core. Argue all you want, but you obviously have no experience with using the actual Android OS, making your arguments pure conjecture.

Do you know if there's a Verizon android phone that runs completely stock version of android? I've used a nexus tablet with stock android and I had zero issues with the performance of it. But I did find myself very frustrated by the Samsung UI as I felt it made the phone lag.

 

[DynamicSausage]

Other phones need to put 3-4gb of ram because Android is a resource pig and requires it to even run as smooth as iOS with 1-2gb.

Also, there are people that will only look at the raw numbers without accounting for the OS's needs. The amount of times I've heard somebody say "oh but my phone has XGB of RAM and you have nothing" is unbelievable. "yes, uneducated fool, you are correct, but you're using half of it to keep that OS afloat whereas the iPhone was built for iOS and vice versa" Personally I've had experience of 2 years with each and iPhone completely blows any Android device out of the water with reliability and smoothness in my experience.

Of course, the drawback of Apple only adding what they need means they may lose sales amongst those people.

 

[DynamicSausage]

It's very unlikely that this picture is real though. I'd say there's a very slim chance of somebody outside of Apple having a 6S and then uploading it to Instagram knowing that their behind is fried if they get caught. Plus, the 2GB rumours have been strong for a while now, nothing is certain but surely they're pretty solid.

 

[Andres Cantu]

Apple knows that 2GB of RAM will sell many iPhone 6s's to those who already own an iPhone 6 and are tech-savvy, so I don't think this image is real.

Also, 2.0GHz for the A9 seems a bit too high, considering the A8X is only 1.5GHz.

 

[bhayes444]

No thanks, I'll stick to my perfectly running iPhones and not waste my time rooting an Android phone or hunting down a specific phone that doesn't have manufacture/carrier skins. The fact still remains nearly all Android phones need bigger specs to run just as good.

I will agree with you that they need higher specs to run smoothly. It doesn't help that the part manufacturers play into the specs race so they have to come out with unnecessary octa core chips. The iPhone is great. Those stock phones are mainly Nexus devices which can be bought from Google themselves, and Motorola has recently done a good job of only minorly tweaking Android and their phones are fantastic!

 

[timeconsumer]

Also, there are people that will only look at the raw numbers without accounting for the OS's needs. The amount of times I've heard somebody say "oh but my phone has XGB of RAM and you have nothing" is unbelievable. "yes, uneducated fool, you are correct, but you're using half of it to keep that OS afloat whereas the iPhone was built for iOS and vice versa" Personally I've had experience of 2 years with each and iPhone completely blows any Android device out of the water with reliability and smoothness in my experience.

Of course, the drawback of Apple only adding what they need means they may lose sales amongst those people.

Great post here. Another thing to point out is that people who care about specs are people that aren't necessarily the target audience for apple. Apple knows how to optimize its software for its devices. Also with Apple you're dealing with 1 company, just Apple. With android you're dealing with Google for the OS, the company who made the phone and installed their UI, then the cell phone carrier who adds their bloatware to it.

 

[cynics]

It's very unlikely that this picture is real though. I'd say there's a very slim chance of somebody outside of Apple having a 6S and then uploading it to Instagram knowing that their behind is fried if they get caught. Plus, the 2GB rumours have been strong for a while now, nothing is certain but surely they're pretty solid.

All I'm seeing is a picture of a screen shot. What is indicating its from someone outside of Apple. I feel like I'm sending screenshots to other people on a daily basis.

 

[bhayes444]

Do you know if there's a Verizon android phone that runs completely stock version of android? I've used a nexus tablet with stock android and I had zero issues with the performance of it. But I did find myself very frustrated by the Samsung UI as I felt it made the phone lag.

The Google Nexus 6 runs stock Android, and the Moto X runs very close to stock and is very smooth. Those are the only 2 I know of. I think Verizon might have some prepaid Moto G phones, that again are very close to stock.

 

[eclipse01]

See my reply below yours.

you know your stuff

 

[lagwagon]

Also, there are people that will only look at the raw numbers without accounting for the OS's needs. The amount of times I've heard somebody say "oh but my phone has XGB of RAM and you have nothing" is unbelievable. "yes, uneducated fool, you are correct, but you're using half of it to keep that OS afloat whereas the iPhone was built for iOS and vice versa" Personally I've had experience of 2 years with each and iPhone completely blows any Android device out of the water with reliability and smoothness in my experience.

Of course, the drawback of Apple only adding what they need means they may lose sales amongst those people.

I agree it sucks that Apple doesn't do much to "future" proof their devices and only put in what's needed for the time. I think the iPad Air 2 is the only device so far that's had more or less way bigger specs than required and probably won't need an update for a bit.

 

[bhayes444]

you know your stuff

Thank you! I love consumer tech, and was a huge Android nerd for a while (still kind of am), but have slowly been converting over to Apple's side. It all started with a Macbook...

 

[eclipse01]

I disagree. I have one on Lollipop and it runs fine, comparable to the iPad Mini 3 (which imo isn't impressive at all).

Maybe you should try restoring it?

Want to talk about crap performance from 2012 lets talk about the iPad 3. I can say with a great amount of certainty say my N7 on Lollipop runs MUCH MUCH better then my iPad 3 on iOS 8. What a POS that was.

I used Lollipop and it was just a horrible experience and restored back to Kit Kat, which is still way more sluggish then my Ipad Mini 3...but useable I guess

 

[lagwagon]

Thank you! I love consumer tech, and was a huge Android nerd for a while (still kind of am), but have slowly been converting over to Apple's side. It all started with a Macbook...

It always starts with a MacBook

I was PC until late 06 or early 07 when I got a MacBook and haven't looked back since.

 

[timeconsumer]

The Google Nexus 6 runs stock Android, and the Moto X runs very close to stock and is very smooth. Those are the only 2 I know of. I think Verizon might have some prepaid Moto G phones, that again are very close to stock.

Thank you, I wasn't aware Verizon now has access to the Nexus line of products. Just looked over the specs and they look fantastic on paper but the biggest issue I have is 32GB and that phone looks huge. I've used Motorola in the past but I am happy with iOS so I think I'll just stick to Apple regardless of the specs.