IPhone 6S vs IPhone 7

[macher]

I've used the 7 and it's not vastly different to my 6S. It's fast and so is the 6S. The camera is apparently better but it's not obvious. It doesn't feel like a great release to me and I'm glad I saved my money.

I have a 6 and the 7 doesn't seem like a major upgrade so I'm sticking with my 6 until the anniversary edition comes out.

 

[C DM]

Targeting users on a 2 year upgrade cycle? I had my iPhone 6 for 2 years and my contract ended when the 7 came out. I was left bitterly disappointed.

Why bitterly disappointed? It's a fairly decent upgrade from a 6. Sure it doesn't look that much different, but that's what often ends up happening as technology matures--laptops look pretty much the same from year to year although can do more powerful, newer, and better things nonetheless, for example.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Why bitterly disappointed? It's a fairly decent upgrade from a 6. Sure it doesn't look that much different, but that's what often ends up happening as technology matures--laptops look pretty much the same from year to year although can do more powerful, newer, and better things nonetheless, for example.

Every iPhone I've owned has looked significantly different from the last and has launched with features that have excited me enough to upgrade. The 7 looks just like the 6. It was supposedly slightly faster, had a different home button, a slightly better camera, lost the jack that I use daily and was £200 more on contract than my previous three contracts. Nothing about it suggested it was a worthy upgrade.

The few people I know who have got it say it's pretty much the same as their 6 or 6S and shrug their shoulders without bigging it up. On that basis I think it was a fairly mediocre release unless you were going from an iPhone 5 or 5S. The phone rumoured for next year really should have been released this year as the demand for a new iPhone was there and for those of us on 2 year contracts it was frustrating. Not all of us throw money away every year just to have the current iPhone because jets face it, they are expensive. A little too expensive judging by the 7.

I can see myself buying the older phone each upgrade now if the carrier greed continues. It seems a waste of money getting the latest and greatest if the difference is minimal in all areas.

 

[C DM]

Every iPhone I've owned has looked significantly different from the last and has launched with features that have excited me enough to upgrade. The 7 looks just like the 6. It was supposedly slightly faster, had a different home button, a slightly better camera, lost the jack that I use daily and was £200 more on contract than my previous three contracts. Nothing about it suggested it was a worthy upgrade.

The few people I know who have got it say it's pretty much the same as their 6 or 6S and shrug their shoulders without bigging it up. On that basis I think it was a fairly mediocre release unless you were going from an iPhone 5 or 5S. The phone rumoured for next year really should have been released this year as the demand for a new iPhone was there and for those of us on 2 year contracts it was frustrating. Not all of us throw money away every year just to have the current iPhone because jets face it, they are expensive. A little too expensive judging by the 7.

I guess ultimately it comes down to personal expectations and wants, which for many people include something that is not just better but is actually different enough (physically) so that it feels new to them.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I guess ultimately it comes down to personal expectations and wants, which for many people includes something that is not just better but is actually different enough (physically) so that it feels new to them.

Indeed. Perhaps it's a sign technology in this field has began to plateau? I think smartphones are used pretty similarly for the vast majority which is mainly social media, taking photos, emails, phone, emails etc. With that in mind I just couldn't justify paying top whack for a phone I wouldn't use any differently. Slap a case on these phones and nobody knows the difference anyway.

The excitement for the iPhone release has diminished for me this year.

 

[tunerX]

its not waterproof.

 

[C DM]

What does that confirm?

 

[tunerX]

What does that confirm?

Did you watch the video. The guy soaks each phone in soda, freezes them, then takes them out and uses them. Looks pretty waterproof to me.

 

[C DM]

Did you watch the video. The guy soaks each phone in soda, freezes them, then takes them out and uses them. Looks pretty waterproof to me.

Anecdotal experiences show that anecdotally something can happen. It doesn't mean that something is in fact that or would be like that for others. Just like showing a video or even a bunch of videos of an iPhone being dropped and its screen not being damaged doesn't mean that the iPhone screen is shatterproof and that someone's drop won't break the screen.

 

[tunerX]

Anecdotal experiences show that anecdotally something can happen. It doesn't mean that something is in fact that or would be like that for others. Just like showing a video or even a bunch of videos of an iPhone being dropped and its screen not being damaged doesn't mean that the iPhone screen is shatterproof and that someone's drop won't break the screen.

That is actually called empirical evidence gathered through an experiment. A test with 4 phones side by side... all 4 phones work.

How many phones would you need to see before the experiment is considered a failure or a success.

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/16/ipho...ater-hot-coffee-and-more-comes-out-unscathed/

 

[C DM]

That is actually called empirical evidence gathered through an experiment. A test with 4 phones side by side... all 4 phones work.

How many phones would you need to see before the experiment is considered a failure or a success.

https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/16/ipho...ater-hot-coffee-and-more-comes-out-unscathed/

So would that similar type of video about the screen on an iPhone screen not breaking when dropped demonstrate that the iPhone screen is shatterproof? Clearly not.

How about people who have liquid damage with these phones? Are they waterproof for them?

Or how about the new Apple Watch actually being advertised and shown by Apple as being waterproof, while that not being the case with the iPhone (surely if it was actually waterproof Apple would go about it just as they have with the updated Apple Watch).

 

[tunerX]

So would that similar type of video about the screen on an iPhone screen not breaking when dropped demonstrate that the iPhone screen is shatterproof? Clearly not.

How about people who have liquid damage with these phones? Are they waterproof for them?

Or how about the new Apple Watch actually being advertised and shown by Apple as being waterproof, while that not being the case with the iPhone (surely if it was actually waterproof Apple would go about it just as they have with the updated Apple Watch).

You are describing anecdotal evidence.

Yes apple doesn't rate it as waterproof... its water resistant up to 1 meter for 30 minutes.

Have a great rest of your day.

 

[C DM]

You are describing anecdotal evidence.

Yes apple doesn't rate it as waterproof... its water resistant up to 1 meter for 30 minutes.

Have a great rest of your day.

Right, anecdotal evidence, as I mentioned earlier.

 

[tunerX]

Right, anecdotal evidence, as I mentioned earlier.

No.

Your post had examples of anecdotal situations and also one non relative situation comparing the watch to the phone (two different products).

Your first example... apple never said they were impact resistant or impact proof for their phones.

Your second example is only rated on water damage and not situation... apple itself says water resistant for 1 meter at 30 minutes. That is equivalent to waterproof within those bounds and anything outside of those bounds exceeds apples guarantee for proofing.

I can setup a situation where I put the phone in 3 inches of water and increase the pressure to several dozen atmospheres forcing the phone to fail within apples own ratings.

Your last example is comparing a watch and a phone with different water ratings.

I get what you are saying. Apple did not rate the phone as waterproof (it saves them from litigation).

From your examples you would be proving that apple is negligent since 100 percent of their phones are not even water resistant according to their own claims.


I do know that within the context of this thread and the OPs claims that if I took 4 iphone 7 and 4 iphone 6s and did the soda test. 100 percent of the 6S would fail and would expect a near 100 percent success for the 7. If my only goal was to own an iphone that could sustain a water dunking, I would always choose the 7 over the 6S.

 

[Septembersrain]

My honest opinion is that if you can afford/stand the bigger phone the upgrade is in the 7+.

I was massively on the fence as I thought a bigger phone just wouldn't be comfortable but it feels light in hand. Similar to the 6s.

Couldn't find one at T-Mobile for the life of me. Called all around my city and a few others. Went to pay my bill at a kiosk, they had a jet black 256GB. Only one. So I jumped in.

That's my only recommendation if you're comparing. The 7 just isn't that much of an improvement to me but that 7+, I can definitely appreciate more RAM (I'm a silly person who loves goat simulator) and better camera. The battery life has been quite impressive too.

 

[C DM]

No.

Your post had examples of anecdotal situations and also one non relative situation comparing the watch to the phone (two different products).

Your first example... apple never said they were impact resistant or impact proof for their phones.

Your second example is only rated on water damage and not situation... apple itself says water resistant for 1 meter at 30 minutes. That is equivalent to waterproof within those bounds and anything outside of those bounds exceeds apples guarantee for proofing.

I can setup a situation where I put the phone in 3 inches of water and increase the pressure to several dozen atmospheres forcing the phone to fail within apples own ratings.

Your last example is comparing a watch and a phone with different water ratings.

I get what you are saying. Apple did not rate the phone as waterproof (it saves them from litigation).

From your examples you would be proving that apple is negligent since 100 percent of their phones are not even water resistant according to their own claims.


I do know that within the context of this thread and the OPs claims that if I took 4 iphone 7 and 4 iphone 6s and did the soda test. 100 percent of the 6S would fail and would expect a near 100 percent success for the 7. If my only goal was to own an iphone that could sustain a water dunking, I would always choose the 7 over the 6S.

Yes, it's more likely to be better with liquids than any previous iPhone. No, it's not a given that it won't suffer from liquid damage.