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I used multi-tasking as an example, the Android OS has a lot more going on in the background than iOS. I would also disagree that multi-tasking is the same, how many apps can you have on iOS actually running at the same time without going into a suspended state when you leave the app? I believe it's just 1, correct? With Android you can have many apps actually running at 100% in the background, collecting data, progressing, etc even if they aren't the front app. Now you also have split screen capabilities to have two apps side by side.
Ironically, it was apps running in the background that caused my colleague's android smartphone's battery to run dry within a short period of time.

Seems like the ability for apps to continue running in the background can be quite the double-edged sword.
 
Ugh, why does this always come up? Just be happy with what you use. If you enjoy it, great.

I posted this because it's a very informative article about specs and how they relate to iOS and Android. The rest turns into a pissing contest between Android and iOS, which isn't the pint of the thread.
 
I used to be anti apple. Then, I got to the point where loading launchers and customization was no longer fun so I decided to try iPhone. I will never go back to android now as I find iOS to be superior in nearly every way. Apps seem to run smoother and are usually better optimized. iPhone also has way more accessories and plays better with the accessories that support multiple platforms.
 
I posted this because it's a very informative article about specs and how they relate to iOS and Android. The rest turns into a pissing contest between Android and iOS, which isn't the pint of the thread.

So that's why the title of the thread is "Can Android Keep Up"

Look, both platforms have their advantages, if you can't see that, then you're just not as informed as you think you are. An argument can be made that both sides are pushing each other and that's a great thing for consumers.
 
So that's why the title of the thread is "Can Android Keep Up"

Look, both platforms have their advantages, if you can't see that, then you're just not as informed as you think you are. An argument can be made that both sides are pushing each other and that's a great thing for consumers.

Well if you read the article it's main point is that Android devices have to push the envelope on hardware just to keep up with iOS devices on many fronts.
 
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So that's why the title of the thread is "Can Android Keep Up"

Look, both platforms have their advantages, if you can't see that, then you're just not as informed as you think you are. An argument can be made that both sides are pushing each other and that's a great thing for consumers.
Competition is great. Look at T-Mobile in the wireless world and what it's doing. When did I say that both platforms don't have their advantages?
 
I posted this because it's a very informative article about specs and how they relate to iOS and Android. The rest turns into a pissing contest between Android and iOS, which isn't the pint of the thread.

You name your thread "Can Android Keep Up" and then you tell people a pissing contest between Android and iOS isn't the point of the thread.

It's people like you that have made Apple lazy, knowing that you will turn a blind eye to all the strengths and advantages to Android, and blatantly stick to Apple no matter what. It's why they have been able to get away with true innovation for a while now. I myself am an iPhone user, and I think people like you are narrow-minded, defensive, egotistical and it is a great shame if the average iPhone user does turn out to stick their head in the sand like you do.

I have both an iPhone 6S (not intending to upgrade to iPhone 7) and a MacBook Pro 2013 and an iPad Mini 4. I still think the Macbook and iPad are still amazing, but I really think the iPhone has stalled, and I am considering trying out the alternative Android offerings. I am aware that it is impossible to have groundbreaking innovation in every iteration of the iPhone, but now Apple has even taken away my element of choice and freedom, and I think that is the final straw for me in terms of the iPhone.
 
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Well if you read the article it's main point is that Android devices have to push the envelope on hardware just to keep up with iOS devices on many fronts.

Read the article, in it's entirety, as much of it as I could stomach. The author's point is that specs don't matter but then cites specs? Is that the point? Fact is that both sides push themselves every year to release these devices. Apple isn't without it's missteps either in this department. You guys are harping on the Note 7 batteries as pushing too hard, but what about the 6000 series aluminum for the 6? We now know that coupled with the softer alloy, there's a potential catastrophic flaw in damaging touch IC chips leading to high amounts of failures. And Apple isn't even willing to acknowledge or fix those issues.

Competition is great. Look at T-Mobile in the wireless world and what it's doing. When did I say that both platforms don't have their advantages?

Implied through the title of the post, then supplanting it with comments that android "isn't even close". Fact of the matter is, a lot of comparisons and benchmarks are also not relevant these days. For example, to your point about background multitasking, when the hell has any of us opened 20 apps in rapid succession and then had to go back through all of them in the same order? Yet, that's the test right, and we're willing to accept that as proof that Apple is superior?

This whole argument is silly. Pick the device that meets your needs. Luckily for us, they've both been pushing quite hard to bring us rich, polished features on both sides that we couldn't have even dreamed of 20 years ago.
 
There is so much going on on my android devices that I no longer even compare it to a iPhone due to a totally different feature set.......
 
Read the article, in it's entirety, as much of it as I could stomach. The author's point is that specs don't matter but then cites specs? Is that the point? Fact is that both sides push themselves every year to release these devices. Apple isn't without it's missteps either in this department. You guys are harping on the Note 7 batteries as pushing too hard, but what about the 6000 series aluminum for the 6? We now know that coupled with the softer alloy, there's a potential catastrophic flaw in damaging touch IC chips leading to high amounts of failures. And Apple isn't even willing to acknowledge or fix those issues.



Implied through the title of the post, then supplanting it with comments that android "isn't even close". Fact of the matter is, a lot of comparisons and benchmarks are also not relevant these days. For example, to your point about background multitasking, when the hell has any of us opened 20 apps in rapid succession and then had to go back through all of them in the same order? Yet, that's the test right, and we're willing to accept that as proof that Apple is superior?

This whole argument is silly. Pick the device that meets your needs. Luckily for us, they've both been pushing quite hard to bring us rich, polished features on both sides that we couldn't have even dreamed of 20 years ago.

Thank you for being sane and logical.
 
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Read the article, in it's entirety, as much of it as I could stomach. The author's point is that specs don't matter but then cites specs? Is that the point? Fact is that both sides push themselves every year to release these devices. Apple isn't without it's missteps either in this department. You guys are harping on the Note 7 batteries as pushing too hard, but what about the 6000 series aluminum for the 6? We now know that coupled with the softer alloy, there's a potential catastrophic flaw in damaging touch IC chips leading to high amounts of failures. And Apple isn't even willing to acknowledge or fix those issues.



Implied through the title of the post, then supplanting it with comments that android "isn't even close". Fact of the matter is, a lot of comparisons and benchmarks are also not relevant these days. For example, to your point about background multitasking, when the hell has any of us opened 20 apps in rapid succession and then had to go back through all of them in the same order? Yet, that's the test right, and we're willing to accept that as proof that Apple is superior?

This whole argument is silly. Pick the device that meets your needs. Luckily for us, they've both been pushing quite hard to bring us rich, polished features on both sides that we couldn't have even dreamed of 20 years ago.

The speed test is a condensed version of what you can expect to see throughout your day of opening and closing apps. While not exact, it's a pretty good showing of the performance of a device's daily usage.

Secondly, it looks like you didn't understand the article as much as you thought you did. The point of the article is that specs cannot be directly compared between Android and iOS. It's the "effect" or in other words, real world usage, that defines each spec. Each spec can have a different result within each ecosystem.
 
The speed test is a condensed version of what you can expect to see throughout your day of opening and closing apps. While not exact, it's a pretty good showing of the performance of a device's daily usage.

Secondly, it looks like you didn't understand the article as much as you thought you did. The point of the article is that specs cannot be directly compared between Android and iOS. It's the "effect" or in other words, real world usage, that defines each spec, has a different result within each ecosystem.

BS. The less than a second it takes for either OS to open most apps is not affecting my day in one bit for either iOS or Android. Are they trying to say you can add up all those fractions of seconds and I'll get to sleep 5 minutes more? Utter crap. Truth of the matter is, we typically use our phones when we have time to look at those apps. App open times are a lot like 0-60 metrics for cars, once meaningful when cars were grossly underpowered, but these days, not a very accurate or meaningful metric.

Oh I understood it alright. I just think it's the same load of garbage just from a different perspective. I also think you're trying to post it under the guise that it speaks to the superiority of the iPhone.
 
BS. The less than a second it takes for either OS to open most apps is not affecting my day in one bit for either iOS or Android. Are they trying to say you can add up all those fractions of seconds and I'll get to sleep 5 minutes more? Utter crap. Truth of the matter is, we typically use our phones when we have time to look at those apps. App open times are a lot like 0-60 metrics for cars, once meaningful when cars were grossly underpowered, but these days, not a very accurate or meaningful metric.

Oh I understood it alright. I just think it's the same load of garbage just from a different perspective. I also think you're trying to post it under the guise that it speaks to the superiority of the iPhone.

One man's trash, is another man's treasure.
 
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What exactly can you do on Android that can't be done on iOS? I owned an Android phone last year and didn't notice any added benefits.

Well for one, there's an actually file management system on android. True multitasking and split screen, use of external devices such as an sd card and flash drive, full control of device with being able to do things like choose default programs.
 
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The 810 was a crappy SoC and was meant to compete with the A9. The 820 is a catch up SoC, but it's still slower than the A9. Now we've got the A10 coming in a week.

It'll be a while until Qualcomm will match Apple's SoC. Apple's got a year lead at least.
 
The article is mostly true. That said, both platforms have good smartphones. Buy what you like.

I do agree that Android has way more bloatware. Also, Samsung and other manufacturers need to wrestle more control away from carriers when it comes what is installed on their phones.

The latter is a big turn-off for me.
 
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Android phones suck. Only ones defending them here is people that don't use iPhones and are trying to justify their crap android. Anyone that's used both knows this. To all the android fanboys..go back to XDA forums and play with your little widgets
 
Android phones suck. Only ones defending them here is people that don't use iPhones and are trying to justify their crap android. Anyone that's used both knows this. To all the android fanboys..go back to XDA forums and play with your little widgets
People like you is what brings more hate to apple products, I'd prefer to think each platform has its user base and good/bad.
 
People like you is what brings more hate to apple products, I'd prefer to think each platform has its user base and good/bad.

I'm not a politically correct softy. I don't like "soft" talk. Bottom line what I say is true. Go play with Android for 2 yrs and the use IPhone. Night and day. Most men don't really care if I can't set up little widgets to see weather and other "customization." I take the quarter second to press weather app
 
I'm not a politically correct softy. I don't like "soft" talk. Bottom line what I say is true. Go play with Android for 2 yrs and the use IPhone. Night and day. Most men don't really care if I can't set up little widgets to see weather and other "customization." I take the quarter second to press weather app
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By the way, widgets come in full force with iOS 10. Finally, Apple put them in the right place...

 
What exactly can you do on Android that can't be done on iOS? I owned an Android phone last year and didn't notice any added benefits.

- Gestures - various swipes or taps, two fingers, three fingers, up/down/sideways can be programed to do whatever you want - you can make it perform a string of commands.

- Contextual tasking - this alone is worth going to Android - program your phone to do whatever you need based on contexts (application, time, date, location, event, gesture). Takes the meaning of "smart phone" to another level

- Setting default apps - lack of this in iOS is embarrassing - you drop $700 on a phone only to have Apple force/push their apps on you. Really? Now even that much freedom, huh?
 
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