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You'd think that with half a trillion dollars, they might use a little more of their own money for research and stuff and make the iPhone cost closer to its production cost.

Go become the CEO and execute your vision then, instead of lecturing them on how they should spend their money.
 
it probably was cheaper to buy the jack parts than to create a specific sized plastic piece to cover the space it left lol.
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Apple pays good to the famous people like Ive so even though it spends more it doesn't mean its more R&D created than google et all which can spend less but have the same or more.

No, Apple spends more R&D per product than any other company. And you're crazy if you think a table maker makes as much as a software or hardware engineer in Cuptertino, CA.
 
The people who complain about how the iPhone costs so much for so low in components costs also voted for the increase in minimum wage to $15/hour in NY without factoring that to run a business you need to put in a lot of capital, pay taxes, rent, actual cost of running said business, licensing costs, permits, advertising, designing, construction of store (physical or virtual)... but nope, let's raise the minimum wage because the employers' costs don't matter.

That's my rant.


And I'm pretty sure R&D, licensing costs, marketing, running actual stores, shipping said phone to people, paying employees to write the OS, designing the CPU, cost to source materials, packaging said phone so it doesn't arrive in pieces… those costs don't matter! Apple is ripping us off!

Actually, I would vote to increase minimum wage to $15 an hour considering the purchasing power of minimum wage in the 1960's was equal to about $21 an hour today. $15 is more in line with late 90's minimum wage. Yet, I also understand that the cost of the iPhone is closer to $450 due to the overhead of the business and the R&D on the phone, etc.

As for employers' costs, you could buy 3 big macs at McDonald's in 1960 after working 1 hour minimum wage at the same place. Now, you can't buy 2. But at the same time, the cost of the meat is incredibly less, probably a fraction of what it was at that time - and is of lower quality. The same circumstances seem to apply to just about any other minimum wage paying business out there. A department store clerk in the 80's could make 3x minimum wage, now they'd be at Walmart and on food stamps.

We, as a country, raced to the bottom and look where that got us - the bottom.
 
Also, it's nothing like the mark-up on say a Louis Vuitton handbag. Pretty sure if you broke one down it would be something like:
- Leather... $10
- Machine sewing/thread... $0.05
- Research/design... $0.05 (no real innovation there)
- Consumer price... $20,000

That example could seem to make sense, except that Louis Vuitton bags are seen as an investment by many buyers.
Not many people buy iphones in order to sell them at profit in a few years time.
Check google for info on handbags as investment.
 
removing the headphone jack must of saved a lot of $ per unit. so courageous of them, saving all of that money.

In place of the obsolete analog headphone jack, Apple ADDED a Taptic Engine, a larger more expensive battery, a larger more expensive 2nd speaker (more powerful than the older ear speaker), a new Proximity sensor, and a dual-lens camera on the Plus.

All of this is A LOT MORE expensive than the small amount of money they saved by leaving off the ancient analog headphone jack!

Also, remember that the costs shown are ESTIMATED! For example, they added ONLY $5 in "basic manufacturing costs" related to assembly, insertion, and testing. That DOES NOT seem to be very realistic.

We do know from Apple's quarterly reports that the markup on iPhones is somewhere between 30%-40%. This would make the estimated cost of $224.80 on a $649 retail iPhone, totally ludicrous!
 
Ridiculous how the battery costs $2.50, but to get it replaced at an Apple store they charge nearly $90
 
You'd think that with half a trillion dollars, they might use a little more of their own money for research and stuff and make the iPhone cost closer to its production cost.
And how do you think all that research and stuff is paid for? Please don't tell me you're going to school for business.
 
No, Apple spends more R&D per product than any other company. And you're crazy if you think a table maker makes as much as a software or hardware engineer in Cuptertino, CA.
Where are you getting this info? I know they don't spend the most on R&D, or are you hanging your hat on the little caveat of "per product". Afaik, Apple's R&D spend is pretty average in the industry. Their return on the R&D investment... now that's a different story. It's probably the best in the biz.
 
removing the headphone jack must of saved a lot of $ per unit. so courageous of them, saving all of that money.
They used the money to provide a lot of free salt for people, at least.
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Where are you getting this info? I know they don't spend the most on R&D, or are you hanging your hat on the little caveat of "per product". Afaik, Apple's R&D spend is pretty average in the industry. Their return on the R&D investment... now that's a different story. It's probably the best in the biz.
Google is your friend. They're in the very top tier of research spending.
 
Alright...

Anybody know some dude who knows a guy who has a cousin with a roommate that can source the parts so that we can build our own.
 
Ridiculous how the battery costs $2.50, but to get it replaced at an Apple store they charge nearly $90
Microsoft Office Business costs you $220, yet it only costs Microsoft about 1 cent for you to download it.
Obviously materials aren't what you're paying for...
 
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But this makes for good click bait. Someone sees this number, assumes it's accurate and thinks Apple is robbing people blind.
That number is what you pay for a bag full with parts in a factory in China.
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Forum commenters occasionally tell me Apple makes little to no profit margin. It's totally absurd.
They are making fun of you.
 
GREEDY APPLE!!!!!

now that that's out of the system:

we're about to get inundated wiht hundreds of post who somehow think that this in any ways is reflective of the price we pay and that we're all being "ripped off"

you cannot ever equate raw hardware costs with retail pricing. Hardware costs are only a portion of the total costs that go into each device.

the fact that the iPhone 7 actually comes with industry standard hardware finally (2gb ram, and the 32gb base storage) and is clearly costing Apple more to produce from a hardware standpoint, it's clear that Apple is lowering margins on iPhone sales, which is kind of the opposite of "greedy"
Either buyer's remorse (you don't want to mentally accept that Apple is ripping you off), or you drunk the fanboy kool-aid. Removing the headphone jack didn't lower the margins it saved them money.
 
Apple is really going all and be more competitive! $37 more then the 6S is saying to the marketplace, Apple not going take it and is going fight back!
 
I cringe every September when this post comes out to imply that the iPhone costs $200 to make.
But objectively it does. Research is only a frontloaded one time cost and they didn't even innovate this year so research spending couldn't have been that high, and regardless it doesn't excuse hurting consumers this way with obsessed profit margins.

You just feel silly for spending 1000 dollars on one, so you get defensive when it's brought up that it's actually a 200 dollar device assembled in China.
 
You'd think that with half a trillion dollars, they might use a little more of their own money for research and stuff and make the iPhone cost closer to its production cost.

They aren't a charity.
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But objectively it does. Research is only a frontloaded one time cost and they didn't even innovate this year so research spending couldn't have been that high, and regardless it doesn't excuse hurting consumers this way with obsessed profit margins.

You just feel silly for spending 1000 dollars on one, so you get defensive when it's brought up that it's actually a 200 dollar device assembled in China.

Labor costs? Logistics? Testing? It costs a lot more than $200.
 
Removing the headphone jack didn't lower the margins it saved them money.

The money they "saved" by not ordering 50 million headphone jacks was put into ordering 50 million of the new larger stronger Taptic Engine assemblies. Or whatever.

Ugh... I hate articles like this. Every armchair supply expert goes crazy :)
 
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