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Wow the people coming in here saying I am a pirate are ignorant.

Actually I mainly use the iPhone jailbreak for 2 things:
#1 to edit the hosts file, not sure why apple doesnt allow this as native on iOs devices.
#2 tether for free. It's complete BS that the carriers are allowed to disable the feature and charge $20 a month for it. I paid for my data connection, why can't I used it how I want?

Actually I really wouldn't have to jailbreak if Apple and the BS carriers didn't screw me over.
 
Wow the people coming in here saying I am a pirate are ignorant.

Actually I mainly use the iPhone jailbreak for 2 things:
#1 to edit the hosts file, not sure why apple doesnt allow this as native on iOs devices.
#2 tether for free. It's complete BS that the carriers are allowed to disable the feature and charge $20 a month for it. I paid for my data connection, why can't I used it how I want?

Actually I really wouldn't have to jailbreak if Apple and the BS carriers didn't screw me over.

No one here claimed you were pirating. The issue was just the ungrateful and arrogant like attitude you were showing
 
#2 tether for free. It's complete BS that the carriers are allowed to disable the feature and charge $20 a month for it. I paid for my data connection, why can't I used it how I want?

Your usage of your data connection is subject to the contract you signed with your carrier. They can offer to sell you any service they like and there is no obligation on your part to purchase it; they offered you a choice of plans, some including tethering and some without. You chose to purchase a plan that did not include tethering, and your carrier accordingly disabled the option on your phone. I fail to see how that is in any way unfair on their part, since you didn't pay for the service.
 
No one here claimed you were pirating. The issue was just the ungrateful and arrogant like attitude you were showing
yeah they did. Read all of the comments.

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Your usage of your data connection is subject to the contract you signed with your carrier. They can offer to sell you any service they like and there is no obligation on your part to purchase it; they offered you a choice of plans, some including tethering and some without. You chose to purchase a plan that did not include tethering, and your carrier accordingly disabled the option on your phone. I fail to see how that is in any way unfair on their part, since you didn't pay for the service.

Nope they artifically disabled it.

It's like buying gasoline at a gas station, and the gas station telling you that it can only be used to drive a car but not a motorcycle, even though it could work totally fine in a motorcycle.

Or maybe more aptly, a gas station trying to charge you more to fill up your motorcycle than your car, but with the same gasoline that would work either way.
 
It's like buying gasoline at a gas station, and the gas station telling you that it can only be used to drive a car but not a motorcycle, even though it could work totally fine in a motorcycle.

You are comparing apples and oranges. When you buy gasoline, you are buying a physical product which you then own and can dispose of as you please within the limit of the law. But when you sign up for a data plan with your cell phone company you are contracting with them to provide a service to you according to the terms of your contract for a period of time. In this case, the terms of your contract limit your usage to a single phone and set a maximum limit on data transfers. You are not buying gigabytes of data, but contracting for a month of service limited to a single device. You may wish that you could buy gigabytes of data transfer that you can do with as you please, but wishes don't make it so. Your phone company isn't selling that product.

Since you seem to like analogies, here's a more apt one: what you are doing is like paying for a season pass to ski area and then expecting that your cousin can use it when you're out of town. That's just not the way it works.
 
Yeah, it’s taking too long for iPhone 7 to release. We should just skip the entire ‘S’ version.

If you are talking about iOS 7 then it is not taking too long. Given that:
1) They are not full time doing it
2) The exploits they mentioned may not be legally distributed. Notice that they always JB any devices when it is released? It was mentioned that they can’t release with it because of legal issue.
3) Even if it is not legal issue, it is not wise to burn an exploit because that only exploit can be used for future hardware/software. If they used that exploit now then they will have to find another one for future hardware/software, which will significantly increase the time. So people like you will end up complaining why it is taking so long to release ‘iPhone 7 jailbreak’.
 
yeah they did. Read all of the comments.

I just did. No-one accused you of piracy. The comment was made by an ignoramus who seemed to assume that everyone who JBs is a pirate and THAT comment was a reply to someone suggesting we pay for the privilege of JBing.

So back on topic, go outside and get some fresh air. Enjoy life. If and when a JB arrives, it'll be here waiting for you. You posting a thread asking where it is, won't get it done any faster.
 
Nope they artifically disabled it.
Whether it's "artifical" or "natural" (neither applies, really) is irrelevant. It's subject to the TOS that you agreed to. No one forced you into anything.

It's complete BS that the carriers are allowed to disable the feature and charge $20 a month for it. I paid for my data connection, why can't I used it how I want?
Again, TOS. Read what you're agreeing to instead of just assuming. There are countless things that come with terms of use even if paying. Paying for a product or service does not automatically grant you completely unrestricted usage.

My plan includes tethering at no additional cost. Spend some more time shopping around and doing your due diligence instead of acting as if you're entitled to everything (not only tethering but JB as well).

The JB is done when it's done. Same as it has always been with every JB. If it's taking too long for you then you're free to develop your own JB as quickly as you want to. You can't rant that it's taking too long when you have no idea what it entails.
 
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You're basically asking Apple to allow people to pay for the ability to pirate software and break copyright laws. Good luck with that.

First, Apple has nothing to do with this. Why would Apple need to "allow" people to pay for a jb? They don't supply the jb.

And second, there are many reasons to jb that don't include pirating software. I don't have one piece of pirated software on my phone, and I'm sure many others here can say the same thing. I choose to support app developers because I believe they deserve to be compensated for their work. Without them, what would we have?
 
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You are comparing apples and oranges. When you buy gasoline, you are buying a physical product which you then own and can dispose of as you please within the limit of the law. But when you sign up for a data plan with your cell phone company you are contracting with them to provide a service to you according to the terms of your contract for a period of time. In this case, the terms of your contract limit your usage to a single phone and set a maximum limit on data transfers. You are not buying gigabytes of data, but contracting for a month of service limited to a single device. You may wish that you could buy gigabytes of data transfer that you can do with as you please, but wishes don't make it so. Your phone company isn't selling that product.

Since you seem to like analogies, here's a more apt one: what you are doing is like paying for a season pass to ski area and then expecting that your cousin can use it when you're out of town. That's just not the way it works.

I disagree with your analogy and offer you (both) this one:
It's like the utility company telling you that you can use water in your dishwasher and coffee maker but you can't fill-up your own water bottle. Another example would be the utility company forbidding you from recharging batteries while also demanding a separate fee for each device plugged into an outlet.

You can obviously tell where I stand on the matter. Network management techniques are already in place so I feel a no tethering policy is negatively redundant. I don't see how 10GB of tethering has a worse impact on the network than 20GB of non-tethering. I think that excessive simultaneous use by the phone & tethered device is what should not be allowed. Streaming music on my iPhone while web browsing on my tethered iPad is reasonable. Streaming a movie on Netflix on both devices at the same time is abuse.

Back on topic: I wish the devs luck getting a jailbreak for 7.0.x and hopefully 7.1 as well.
 
It's like the utility company telling you that you can use water in your dishwasher and coffee maker but you can't fill-up your own water bottle

The water company would not allow you to "tether" your neighbor's house to your water system.

Look, you can argue all you want about what services you wish your phone company offered, but you can only subscribe to those they actually offer. The terms of that offer are clearly spelled out, and you agree to them when you sign your contract, every term of which they are fulfilling.
 
Great analogy TypeMRT, I was thinking the same thing. The main point being 10gb on my phone is no different than 10gb on my tethered device.

To me it's like paying 100 for a ski pass and them them saying it will cost you another 100 to snowboard. Even better would be paying 50 for your broadband internet through your ISP but having to pay another unreasonable or unjustifiable fee to use a router.
I'm in a business law class right now so I could on and on about this, but I won't.
 
Clearly OP didn't buy an iPhone 5 at launch/update to iOS 6 on A5+ devices and duke it out for evasi0n

You know nothing of what it means to wait :p

Also they can take their sweet time, should they choose to, or if needed to perfect the jailbreak.

Plus, since there is no iOS 7 jailbreak, makes my decision easier on 5. on ipad3, it'll still on iOS 6.

But for iPhone 5, almost everything makes me lean towards updating (mostly for the newest APIs) but I'm worried about performance, battery life, certain tweaks never being updated beyong iOS 6 support, and that horrendous music app with endless scrolling. What the hell???

Maybe I'll sit it out on my 5 as it is, and jailbreak my iPhone 6/iOS 8 whenever the device and exploits come along worst comes to worst. Decisions, decisions.
 
Clearly OP didn't buy an iPhone 5 at launch/update to iOS 6 on A5+ devices and duke it out for evasi0n

You know nothing of what it means to wait :p

Also they can take their sweet time, should they choose to, or if needed to perfect the jailbreak.

Plus, since there is no iOS 7 jailbreak, makes my decision easier on 5. on ipad3, it'll still on iOS 6.

But for iPhone 5, almost everything makes me lean towards updating (mostly for the newest APIs) but I'm worried about performance, battery life, certain tweaks never being updated beyong iOS 6 support, and that horrendous music app with endless scrolling. What the hell???

Maybe I'll sit it out on my 5 as it is, and jailbreak my iPhone 6/iOS 8 whenever the device and exploits come along worst comes to worst. Decisions, decisions.

What endless scrolling are you referring to in the Music app? I use that app all the time and haven't noticed what you refer to. I will say this, iTunes Radio or whatever it's called blows away pandora and any other music app. It's scary how good the recommendations are along with the ease to purchase a song you like. For my 5s, if I'm enjoying a song and I want to buy it, I just scan my fingerprint!

The 5s, iOS 7, fingerprint scanner, and iTunes Radio are the freaking jam!

Regardless, still looking forward to that jailbreak ;) lol
 
I agree, iTunes Radio is scary good! About to renew my iTunes Match right now to get rid of commercials.
 
I agree, iTunes Radio is scary good! About to renew my iTunes Match right now to get rid of commercials.

Indeed. Not only is the algorithm really strong after you enter the type of music you want played (artist, album, or song), but couple that with "Play more songs like this", "Never play this song", and your music library database, iTunes Radio makes me one happy music lover haha
 
Indeed. Not only is the algorithm really strong after you enter the type of music you want played (artist, album, or song), but couple that with "Play more songs like this", "Never play this song", and your music library database, iTunes Radio makes me one happy music lover haha

First time I used it I was jammin for an hour before it played a song I didn't like, and I just hit never play this song. It's like they're reading my mind half of the time.
 
There were quite a few things that the jailbroken apps added to iOS before. Now that we have 7 with its new features (a decent multitasking - most important thing for me), what other reasons have you got to justify jailbreaking?

The biggest reason is iBlacklist, for me.
 
yeah they did. Read all of the comments.

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Nope they artifically disabled it.

It's like buying gasoline at a gas station, and the gas station telling you that it can only be used to drive a car but not a motorcycle, even though it could work totally fine in a motorcycle.

Or maybe more aptly, a gas station trying to charge you more to fill up your motorcycle than your car, but with the same gasoline that would work either way.


Too bad the carriers **** you over in the US. With Rogers I have a 6GB data plan, and am allowed to tether with that connection.
 
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