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Reading these pro-headphone jack comments is funny. Guaranteed everyone defending the headphone jack is over 30 years old and are just sad to see the technology they love finally come to an end. Move on people. Make way for new, higher quality sound.

Or the high comedy of anybody under 30 who's only listened to compressed digital music pretend they even understand 'new' higher quality sound.
 
The wire doesn't disappear. You conveniently left out the part of the story, where you have to charge another thing with a different wire. Even Apple's own Beats Studio Wireless come with a USB 2.0 cable and a different charger. Despite the current lack of high quality codec and lip sync, this is another downside.

Lemme re-phrase that, for use while listening to music, no wires to deal with. Afterwards, I just toss it on the charger that's next to my side. I've had plenty of cases where when out exercising, the cord would snag somewhere and it wasn't pleasant.
 
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Join me on a trip down memory lane if you were there like I was. When Apple dropped the floppy drive there was NOTHING better available right then. CD-Rs and RWs were expensive, and buggy. The media as ridiculously expensive. Zip drives were a better option, but again, buggy. The Jaz drive was a catastrophe, along with most ofter attempts in the industry to create a mass media re-writable technology. The internet was dial up, slow and buggy! Nobody had heard of USB in 1998, and there was nothing available for it. Drivers were buggy and it took years for the standard to catch up to reality.

And nobody is telling you that you can't use your wireless headphones 20 years from now, but it will either be with a Bluetooth dongle, or an adapter to whatever digital system you want to connect to. Because 20 years from now, the audio standard will be wireless, and it will low the pants off any wired mobile audio you are using today, if not all consumer audio equipment. Pro stuff may take bit longer, just like WiFi is still a long way off from replacing Ethernet, but that didn't stop Apple from removing the Ethernet jacks from the MacBooks and not even offering it as an option on iOS devices.

Not sure how you can make such claims about 20 years from now. Convenience trumps quality in many cases. Today's music and phone calls sound worse than they did 20 years ago.
 
Apple remove it, so you can use that free space for something better

Like "thinner and lighter?"

Because existing iPhones are too thick and too heavy. Really Apple, we don't mind having to carry around a separate adapter... nor will we count the adapters weight against the "lighter" number even if we pretty much need to always carry it around.

At least our wallets can be a little lighter after we need to buy the adapter to replicate what already "just works" now with a proprietary, controlled-by-one-corporation jack. Maybe the lighter wallet can cancel out the added adapter weight? Lets aim for that!
 
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i think Apple will surprise us with their solution.
First,
24 bit hi-res audio
Second, new 24 bit DAC
Third, the hi-res audio over bluetooth. Because its hi res, it will be of better quality than any wired conventional 16bit could be
Fourth, iTunes store hi-res audio tracks
There it is again. Actually the existing analog audio connector is perfectly capable of transmitting what you call "hi-res audio" from the phone to your ear in pristine quality. All it would take for Apple to support this is using a DAC with 24-bit support in the phone (assuming the current one doesn't already support it). No need for a new audio connector.

And no, Bluetooth does not support lossless "hi-res audio" since it doesn't have the bandwidth. It would require Apple to come up with a proprietary extension that again wouldn't work with anything else.
 
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Meanwhile back in 1982...

"How am I going to connect my headphones to the Walkman? I don't want to carry round an adapter all the time."

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First of all, the 3.5mm jack has only been around for about 50 years (I know this is semantics, it doesn't really matter how long it's been around, but I hate this misinformation).
To my knowledge it was Sony who first used 3.5mm stereo connectors in their Walkman, so that would make it about 38 years old. ;)
 
Reading these pro-headphone jack comments is funny. Guaranteed everyone defending the headphone jack is over 30 years old and are just sad to see the technology they love finally come to an end. Move on people. Make way for new, higher quality sound.

I don't understand how a rumor can already have such a RDF grip on people that this keeps getting repeated. The headphone plug / jack is used in pro studios where music is mastered. What higher quality are you expecting and where will it come from? I mean ultimately the sound will be amplified and connected to your headphone drivers by copper wire, right?
 
Totally and completely depends on the headphones in question.

There are some wired headphones that exist that sound better than some Bluetooth headphones, and there are some Bluetooth headphones that exist that sound better than some wired headphones.

In most cases it's the actual headphones that are the limiting factor in quality, not the method of delivery.

with current Bluetooth you are not able to get better sound then a wired headphone. What I mean is, at the end of the day, the best headphones would currently sound better on a wired connect then the same headphones going over Bluetooth.
 
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As far as battery life with these wireless headphones....I remember when 9to5Mac reported the Watch was getting 2.5 hours battery life and the tech world lost its collective mind. That turned out to be completely bogus, at least with the product that actually shipped. There are a lot of things Mark Gurman gets right but he's not always 100%.
Even Apple cannot do miracles. The only Bluetooth headphones that last longer than a few hours today either are the larger on-ear type, or have a separate "dongle" for the battery (which IMO is more annoying than a simple wire going to the phone). There are physical limits to what you can do with tiny batteries that fit into the actual ear buds.
 
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There it is again. Actually the existing analog audio connector is perfectly capable of transmitting what you call "hi-res audio" from the phone to your ear in pristine quality. All it would take for Apple to support this is using a DAC with 24-bit support in the phone (assuming the current one doesn't already support it). No need for a new audio connector.

And no, Bluetooth does not support lossless "hi-res audio" since it doesn't have the bandwidth. It would require Apple to come up with a proprietary extension that again wouldn't work with anything else.

How dare you try to make facts get in the way of the "Apple is always right" spin. We don't care about facts or objectivity if we believe Apple wants to do something. Instead, whatever that change is, it is the ONE and ONLY, absolutely-right way forward. Post facts all you want but 10 of us will keep posting spin... or redirection... or lies... to try to win over the naive by volume.

See, it's not really about us as consumers or our fellow consumers. It's about Apple and AAPL. Consumers are just a nuisance that has to be tolerated, except when they completely tow the company line (then they're OK).

Oh, and we- well Apple- wants their money too.

To bad we can't get some laws passed that would just redirect all "net pay" to Apple, so that Apple wouldn't even have to make anything anymore. That would be nirvana... and how it should be.

All ;)
 
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Can't comment on battery drain because I can't compare it to anything but the convenience of having no wires is pretty great :)

you are trading the convenience of not having your head phones plugged into your phone for the INconvenice of having to plug them into a charger often/daily, or else they wont work.
 
Unless a Lightning-to-headphone adaptor is sold, that would make useless all really high quality earbuds/headphones (since Bluetooth is limited compared to the internal DAC); and Lightning earphones likely wouldn't be available in sufficient variety to include really high quality ones.

It would also eliminate non-audio devices that use the earphone connector, like the little square credit card readers.

We've already seen that really thin bodies are more prone to being bent (likely including screen damage). Eliminating a useful small connector for the sake of thinness is absurd, IMO.
 
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I think Apple's taking a risk by making this change to wireless headphones. Not only that, it's that in all likelihood battery life will be the same since that's Apple's track record despite the hype.

So I'm taking a pass and not buying an iPhone 7, instead I'll enjoy the 6 Plus I have and stick to my wait and see policy on anything new from Apple. That'll be a money saving change from my usual annual upgrades.

Ironically that's how several of my friends feel also, we skipped the 6S due to lackluster features and it's been a refreshing change.

It's good to get off Apple's upgrade train. :D
 
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Yep, I use the same for my car. Though I won't be purchasing a "7" this year due to many reasons, one being there's not going to be a big enough feature list to get me to jump from the "6s Plus". I'd say I'm more excited about OS updates on the watch, phone and mac then actual new hardware at this point. Seems like Apple is focusing a ton of hardware and not enough on the software that runs it. As I said, hoping this year we get some nice OS updates that take advantage of the last few hardware updates.

lets get a little closer to launch before u write off the 7 for lack of features. U have no clue what the 7 will bring.
 
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Totally and completely depends on the headphones in question.

There are some wired headphones that exist that sound better than some Bluetooth headphones, and there are some Bluetooth headphones that exist that sound better than some wired headphones.

In most cases it's the actual headphones that are the limiting factor in quality, not the method of delivery.

Sure, but the best sounding headphones in the world are all wired.

The best headphone in world, the $55,000 Orpheus (http://www.wired.com/2015/11/sennheiser-orpheus), was recently released by Sennheiser...and guess what, it is a wired headphone. If wireless is the future of audio, you would think that Sennheiser would have incorporated that technology (it's the "future", after all) into their flagship model.

But I know what some people say...let me put the rolley eyes right here...:rolleyes: :eek:. Some will say that ONLY Apple has the vision to look to the future. The engineers at Sennheiser are idiots, right? Their new Orpheus should have been a wireless model, or it should have had a lightning connector.

The only visionary at Apple was Steve Jobs. Cook is just a pencil pusher, unfortunately.
 
Like "thinner and lighter?"

Because existing iPhones are too thick and too heavy. Really Apple, we don't mind having to carry around a separate adapter... nor will we count the adapters weight against the "lighter" number even if we pretty much need to always carry it around.

At least our wallets can be a little lighter after we need to buy the adapter to replicate what already "just works" now with a proprietary, controlled-by-one-corporation jack. Maybe the lighter wallet can cancel out the added adapter weight? Lets aim for that!
something better...thinner and lighter are not technologies inside...i mean replace the jack with something else like noice cancelation or water resistant etc
 
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