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Stretching a bit far there. Most people feel they fit well. Sorry they don't fit your weird ears. The sound, while isn't top notch. Is about 30 dollar quality.
Spoken like a true fanboy. You'll waste money on the logo even though it's of poor quality.
 
The more I think about it the more I think this is a terrible idea. The great thing about headphones is they work with everything. You can just grab any pair lying around and use them in your phone, then on your laptop and then on any tablets or PCs you come across throughout the day. The convenience is king. An adapter is no good and nor is carrying about more than one pair.

I can see this working if they swap out lighting for a USB-C and USB-C becomes a standard for headphone manufacturers. Other than that I would probably have a closer look at what's available for Android.
 
The more I think about it the more I think this is a terrible idea. The great thing about headphones is they work with everything. You can just grab any pair lying around and use them in your phone, then on your laptop and then on any tablets or PCs you come across throughout the day. The convenience is king. An adapter is no good and nor is carrying about more than one pair.

I can see this working if they swap out lighting for a USB-C and USB-C becomes a standard for headphone manufacturers. Other than that I would probably have a closer look at what's available for Android.

It's weird to me that you didn't even consider Bluetooth.
 
The more I think about it the more I think this is a terrible idea. The great thing about headphones is they work with everything. You can just grab any pair lying around and use them in your phone, then on your laptop and then on any tablets or PCs you come across throughout the day. The convenience is king. An adapter is no good and nor is carrying about more than one pair.

I can see this working if they swap out lighting for a USB-C and USB-C becomes a standard for headphone manufacturers. Other than that I would probably have a closer look at what's available for Android.

Hang on, you're against it because you have to carry an adapter? But you're OK if they go with USB-C instead of Lightning? Or Android?

You do realize that even if USB-C became the standard, that it would take years before every device that currently uses 3.5mm is replaced with a device with USB-C, which means you'll be carrying a USB-C adapter around with you everywhere you go instead of a Lightning adapter. And if Apple actually does this, Android devices are likely to follow suit within a year, and they most likely will use micro-USB. But even if the majority of Samsung/Android handsets adopt USB-C, you'll still need an adapter to use any other devices, or earphones.
 
Hang on, you're against it because you have to carry an adapter? But you're OK if they go with USB-C instead of Lightning? Or Android?

You do realize that even if USB-C became the standard, that it would take years before every device that currently uses 3.5mm is replaced with a device with USB-C, which means you'll be carrying a USB-C adapter around with you everywhere you go instead of a Lightning adapter. And if Apple actually does this, Android devices are likely to follow suit within a year, and they most likely will use micro-USB. But even if the majority of Samsung/Android handsets adopt USB-C, you'll still need an adapter to use any other devices, or earphones.

Yes I realise all of this. To clarify, I would deal with the swapping of a 3.5mm jack in the iPhone if it swaps to a new standard, whether that be USB-C, micro-USB or whatever. I reckon if it swaps to a standard that everyone can get on board with then it won't be an issue for long. USB-C is a good example because every new device is likely going to be shipping with it. One wouldn't need the adapter for long. Replace USB-C with 'some new standard' if you prefer.

I'm not sitting here saying we need to keep the 3.5mm forever, I'm just saying a swap to a new standard is better than not, especially for something so common. The deal breaker is if it swaps to lightning, which will likely never become a standard on other devices, so you will always need an adapter.
 
Yes I realise all of this. To clarify, I would deal with the swapping of a 3.5mm jack in the iPhone if it swaps to a new standard, whether that be USB-C, micro-USB or whatever. I reckon if it swaps to a standard that everyone can get on board with then it won't be an issue for long. USB-C is a good example because every new device is likely going to be shipping with it. One wouldn't need the adapter for long. Replace USB-C with 'some new standard' if you prefer.

I'm not sitting here saying we need to keep the 3.5mm forever, I'm just saying a swap to a new standard is better than not, especially for something so common. The deal breaker is if it swaps to lightning, which will likely never become a standard on other devices, so you will always need an adapter.

With all due respect, if Apple switched to USB-C, and gave you a free set of USB-C earbuds, even if Samsung and Android hardware also switches to USB-C that's at least a year away if nor longer, before only NEW devices will have it, which at best only gives you compatibility if you switch between new iPhones and Android phones. It also only applies only to brand new PCs and Macs. I don't know about you, but I'm currently using an iPhone 5S, an iPad Air, and a 2014 MacBook Pro. Other than the phone, I'm not planning on upgrading any of them any time soon. And that will be true for the vast majority of current hardware in the world. From iPods, to PCs, to stereo equipment, it's going to take over a decade at least before all of that old equipment is replaced with USB-C, and that's from the point where the entire audio industry embraces USB-C as a standard. You'll be carrying an adapter for several years to ensure you'll be able to plug into any device you happen to come across during your day.

Now consider if you will, USB-A has been the standard since 1998. That's 18 years, which is a good healthy run, during which there was USB-B, USB 3.0, FireWire, and Thinderbolt, competing for the standard. So what makes you think that even if USB-C becomes the standard across the board starting today, that USB-C will even last 18 years with all the new technologies swirling around out there? And even if it does, more than half of that time you'll need an adapter to connect to older equipment. So you might get a few adapter free years after that before the next standard comes along. And I think that's being optimistic. USB-C is a great connector compared to USB-A, but in a lot of ways it feels like an evolutionary step in the right direction, but not a standard. And the last thing anybody wants is to invest into a lot of specialized equipment that will eventually require and adapter when the industry moves to the new standard, just like all of my USB-A equipment (which I'm not going to just replace) does now.

If Apple does this, and the rest of the industry follows only using USB-C, it's going to take years before you'll be able to use native USB-C equipped headphones without an adapter on every piece of equipment you may need to connect to during your day. So it kind of doesn't matter whether it's Lightning or USB-C. You're going to need an adapter, and there will be Lightning to USB-C adapters as well. So it really all depends on what your needs are. Some Apple people likely plug in their headphones only into Apple products. Some will only need Apple and 3.5mm products. Some like you will need Apple, 3.5mm, and USB-C. In which case, since you're going to have to carry an adapter no matter what, you're better off keeping your 3.5mm headphones and getting an adapter like this:

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But rallying around USB-C as a standard is not going to change your need to carry around at least one adapter for many years. With that in mind, for me it doesn't matter if it's Lightning, USB-C or one like the above. But since I don't have as much confidence as you in USB-C becoming the standard for another two decades, much less longer, I'd just as soon not invest in a bunch of new specialized equipment that may be supplanted in a few years, since I'm going to have to carry around an adapter anyway.
 
Unless the adapator itself is BIG. Remember that the thing has to include an amp and a DAC. It's one thing to say that it's no big deal while you sit there and type your post, but in the real world carrying around an adaptor which can get lost or damaged will be a pain in the neck.

You seem to be eager to give Apple more money for something you don't need. You can use your 6 wired headphones right now without spending a penny. If you have an extra $50 to flush down the toilet, why don't you give that money to the Red Cross or some other charity? Apple doesn't need more money, but they sure find creative ways to get more money out of their customers.


You clearly don't care about sound quality. I bet that not one of those 6 wired headphones you own costs more than $20. Sure, if you plug a crappy headphone to a Bluetooth to 3.5 adaptor you will not hear any difference. Just buy a Bluetooth headphone and be done with it. Be sure to buy a Beats, that way you can can make Cook and his cronies even more rich.
Hyperbole much?
 
It's weird to me you think people should consider headphones that have poor audio quality, are big, bulky, uncomfortable and expensive.

It's weird to me you can't think even a year into the future to consider what kind of innovations the future/Apple might bring. Open your mind
 
It's weird to me you can't think even a year into the future to consider what kind of innovations the future/Apple might bring. Open your mind

And today $200 bluetooth headphones are garbage in every way next to $50 wired headphones. So maybe in 5-10 years most of the problems with bluetooth will be solve. Until then only an idiot would buy a phone without a 3.5mm pin
 
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So maybe in 5-10 years most of the problems with bluetooth will be solve. Until then only an idiot would buy a phone without a 3.5mm pin

Lol. For this reason and this reason alone, I hope they drop the 3.5mm port. So I don't have the own the same phone as you.

Just like losing the CD port was a good thing, this could be too.

And your crotchety angry old self will have to go around telling people why it's a bad idea because audiophiles can no longer hear their beautiful crisp audio.
 
Lol. For this reason and this reason alone, I hope they drop the 3.5mm port. So I don't have the own the same phone as you

There we can agree. I also hope they drop the 3.5mm port. I'll have a lot of fun watching Timmy crash and burn while listing to some nice music.
 
Lol. For this reason and this reason alone, I hope they drop the 3.5mm port. So I don't have the own the same phone as you.

Just like losing the CD port was a good thing, this could be too.

And your crotchety angry old self will have to go around telling people why it's a bad idea because audiophiles can no longer hear their beautiful crisp audio.

There we can agree. I also hope they drop the 3.5mm port. I'll have a lot of fun watching Timmy crash and burn while listing to some nice music.

Are you both 12?
 
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I was so excited when the current "alien-designed" apple earphone was announced as i can't secure fit anything to my ear except in-ears. But it was so disappointed when I got it with the iphone that it still failed to fit (i guess I am the whatsoever 5% of the leftoff people?)

Now, they are putting lightening there, with the macbook having usb-c. Ok, so can the new earpods be used on macbook now? or..?

Simplicity, with confusion. LOL
 
I was so excited when the current "alien-designed" apple earphone was announced as i can't secure fit anything to my ear except in-ears. But it was so disappointed when I got it with the iphone that it still failed to fit (i guess I am the whatsoever 5% of the leftoff people?)

Now, they are putting lightening there, with the macbook having usb-c. Ok, so can the new earpods be used on macbook now? or..?

Simplicity, with confusion. LOL

If Apple actually removes the headphone jack, and goes with Lightning earbuds, then all the MacBooks will likely be the first to get Lightning ports added mid-cycle (sort of like the iPad 4 was a mid-cycle refresh swapping the 30-pin connector for Lightning). The rMB will have its headphone jack replaced, while the MBP will likely add Lightning while retaining the headphone jack until probably the next redesign. The MBA will likely not get the Lightning port at all. Desktop Macs will follow in their next refresh.
 
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