The USB-C on my 6p requires quite a bit of force for me to unplug the charger compared to a micro usb. It also does have a bit of a click to it.
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iPhone 7 May Ship With Lightning-Connected EarPods, New Wireless Earphones Also Under Development
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The USB-C on my 6p requires quite a bit of force for me to unplug the charger compared to a micro usb. It also does have a bit of a click to it.
I'm not sure, though honestly I think I looser connection would actually be of benefit. I've lost count of how many times I've accidentally jerked my phone into the air.
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If nearly 30 pages of comments is any indication I think it's quite obvious that enough people care about keeping the mini jack that it's removal would turn out quite unfavourable for Apple's business. I still doubt very much that this is really going to happen. At this point in time the "reliable sources" that started this rumour a long time ago can't possibly know for sure what apples next phone will be like. It's early January and the 7 won't be launched before September. So it couldn't come from anywhere in the supply chain. I suspect this is just something they like to throw in for getting some attention while in fact they have no idea what the 7 will be like. And they don't have anything else of interest to write about... As many others I rely heavily on the headphone jack and prefer it over wireless or lightning for a large part of my listening. If they remove it I won't buy the 7 period.
30 pages is 702 replies and that's not from 702 different people and possibly not even all iPhone owners. Insignificant.
New survey from MacNN - LINK
They surveyed 1,009 shoppers outside a few Northern Virginia Apple Stores and asked a variety of questions.
One of the questions they asked: "rumor has it that Apple will eliminate the headphone jack in favor of wireless or Lightning-connector headphones. If true, will this have any effect on your day-to-day use?"
723 users said that the removal of the headphone jack would have no effect
189 users said it would have a detrimental effect on usage of the devices
88 users had no opinion
Then they go on to say: "Here's an interesting data point -- not all of the 189 who claimed that they would be negatively impacted thought that the removal would be a bad idea. Only 132 of the 189 thought that the removal would be bad for Apple and the phone. There's still no overwhelming majority in favor of the eradication of the headphone jack, though -- 412 of the full pool said that the removal was a good idea, leaving 466 with no opinion one way or another."
They surveyed 1,009 shoppers outside a few Northern Virginia Apple Stores and asked a variety of questions.
One of the questions they asked: "rumor has it that Apple will eliminate the headphone jack in favor of wireless or Lightning-connector headphones. If true, will this have any effect on your day-to-day use?"
723 users said that the removal of the headphone jack would have no effect
189 users said it would have a detrimental effect on usage of the devices
88 users had no opinion
Then they go on to say: "Here's an interesting data point -- not all of the 189 who claimed that they would be negatively impacted thought that the removal would be a bad idea. Only 132 of the 189 thought that the removal would be bad for Apple and the phone. There's still no overwhelming majority in favor of the eradication of the headphone jack, though -- 412 of the full pool said that the removal was a good idea, leaving 466 with no opinion one way or another."
And that's the suburbs where people typically don't live on the cutting edge of technology. So this is basically the kind of data I suspect Apple has if this rumor is true, but on a much larger scale.
Of course, that's still not going to deter people around here from wanting this:
I bet if you asked "rumor has it that the iPhone 7 will no longer work with your existing headphones without using a bulky adapter", or "with the iPhone 7 you'll be required to use headphones that aren't compatible with any other device on the market", you'd get a very different result.
Very different result?
The survey specifically said "eliminate the headphone jack"
I think the people could figure out what that means.
Here's why I'm not shocked by these survey results: I would imagine there is a large portion of iPhone users that NEVER plug anything into the headphone port. Or that only use the included EarPods. Or use Bluetooth in headsets and their cars.
And a smaller portion are those who use the headphone jack for 3rd party headphones.
I dunno... these survey results don't seem out of line to me.
You forgot the "in favor of" part, which makes all the difference in making it sound positive. It has been proven again and again that poll results can change drastically when you ask the same question in different ways.
People that use the bundled earphones will be affected by the lack of compatibility with any other device too, so I'm not sure why you would exclude them.
You can tell some iphone users any BS and they will believe it or praise Apple for doing it. Examples:
Not saying this applies to all users and certainly not the users on these forums. However most of us are "Techies". Most of the general public are not.
The best one from above is when they gave iPhone users the first ever iPhone and tell them it is the 6s and they praised how much faster it was vs the iPhone 6.
Well... we've got 9 months to conduct more surveys.
Not that I think it will matter. If Apple decides the headphone jack needs to go... then it's gonna go.
Apple has done more research than any survey could produce. This is a big change that they're not taking lightly.
I provided one source... I'm sure you all can find others.
I usually take polls about technology with a grain of salt. I will wait on sales to be my "polls". I think what will happen is non techie iPhone users will upgrade to the 7 and then try plugging in their headphones and realize something is not right.
There is no good reason to remove the headphone jack. I repeat: There is no good reason to remove the headphone jack. iPhone 6 and 6s are thin enough. Water resistance can be achieved with or without headphone jack. If the phone gets thinner the camera will have to protrude even more and it will bend more as well. If this is supposed to be a selling point for people to "upgrade" from the 6 and 6s good luck Apple. I don't think many people will go: "I want the 7 because it doesn't have a headphone jack". We will see if this comes true or not but I'm sure anybody dealing with music on a regular basis will prefer to buy an iPhone with the mini jack over buying a thinner one without. It will most certainly cause a dip in the sales for that reason. And there will be a large number of formerly loyal Apple customers looking for alternatives. Good for Samsung and HTC, who btw. won't follow suit and remove headphone jacks and introduce lightning ports to their devices. Only Apple will ever offer lightning ports so this will never become a studio standard as the 3.5mm jack.
[doublepost=1452685522][/doublepost]Here's the same rumour covered by macrumours in november, by the way: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-with-all-in-one-lightning-connector.1941037/
44 pages of comments on that one already. I wouldn't call it insignificant and I think it's safe to assume these are all iPhone owners as well.
[doublepost=1452685522][/doublepost]Here's the same rumour covered by macrumours in november, by the way: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-with-all-in-one-lightning-connector.1941037/
44 pages of comments on that one already. I wouldn't call it insignificant and I think it's safe to assume these are all iPhone owners as well.
44 pages seems a lot on paper, but the few posters are likely just a vocal minority which may not be indicative of the general iPhone user base.
If it's one thing Apple has made me realise, it's that people are actually pretty shortsighted at predicting new trends and can rarely see beyond what is right in front of their own noses.
Just as banning flash in iOS devices led to a thriving app ecosystem, I am fairly confident that removing the headphone jack will help spur the development of whatever new music ecosystem Apple wants to spearhead.
To Apple, I say - bring it on.
Yeah... don't forget that Tim Cook resided over the Apple Maps disaster. Or the fact that Apple was actually shortsighted when it came to consumer demand for larger screen devices.
You speak as though Apple had absolutely zero missteps under Steve Jobs.
I agree Apple was a little late to the phablet market, but it's not inexcusable. The iPhone 5 design was probably decided right before Apple realised that larger phones were more popular than they thought (which was possibly approved by Steve Jobs as well), and by then, they were locked into a 2-year cycle. To Apple's credit, they have more or less caught up with the market, and their fortunes haven't seemed to have suffered for it.
As for Maps, Apple probably could have waited, but Google forced their hand, and I would rather have a flawed Maps app that at least made Google release an updated Maps app of their own.
Tim Cook is no Steve Jobs, and I am glad Tim doesn't pretend or try to be. He does what he does best, securing supply chains so Apple can quickly bring huge quantities of their products to market in the shortest time possible, something which I never saw under Steve Jobs' tenure.
They each have their own strengths and weaknesses. We will never know what sort of Apple there would have been had Steve Jobs never died, but I honestly feel Tim Cook is doing a rather good job in his own right. He is never going to create the next successor to the iPhone, but the value he brings to the organisation is no less, IMO.
So, we all agree that Apple can make mistakes. They are as sure about people not needing a 3.5 jack as they were about people not needing a bigger screen. I bet that back in the day people like Mac 128 were posting countless messages about how bigger screens sucked...and then they probably wrote countless more post about how Apple was looking to the future when they released the iPhone 6 with the upgraded screen.
I never claimed Apple to be infallible. What I do find is that Apple tends to get it right where it counts, so when you look back in hindsight, all the missteps and problems along the way suddenly don't seem like that huge a deal in the greater scheme of things.
Most of the things they got right (and some that they got wrong) happened during the time Jobs was guiding the company. What have they gotten right lately? A bigger iPad? Moving from the 30-pin to the lightning connector? What have they done lately (besides a bigger screen, which was not even their idea) that has moved technology in a positive direction? The fingerprint sensor? The removal of the 3.5 jack? They might be able to get away with removing the 3.5 jack, but the only reason they are doing so is to make more money. Anyone defending this move is just nuts...or they own Apple stocks. How is this progress? Bluetooth headsets have existed for years. Is putting a lightning connector on a headphone progress (considering that the lightning connector is already an outdated technology)? If they were trying to push USB-C connectors it would be a different story.
I can't answer you. Suffice to say that time will reveal all and it wouldn't be the Apple I know and love if they didn't try a stunt like this every once in a while.
If I buy that car (as I would with a new iPhone) and I knew this was the only option then what's the problem? Your old pumps are still around..... I will enjoy my new pump thanks.
I've been an avid apple advocate for over a decade. If they do away with the 1/8" jack, I won't buy another apple product and will divest from the company. I'm amazed at how many people are willing to lose something so basic and so convenient: being able to plug the same headphones into anything of any brand, not having to worry about charging it, or if using wired headphones, not being able to listen while charging the phone, not paying a lot more money for this inconvenient and inferior system/bulky adaptor hanging from your phone. Imagine getting to the gym and realizing you forgot to 'charge your headphones', that would be so frustrating. Or going on an international trip and running out of batteries a few hours in, that would suck so much! Not to mention that the audio quality on bluetooth sucks. And most importantly: Who needs a THINNER iPhone? Are you going to put it in your wallet with your credit cards? Seriously, make the thing thicker, give me more battery and leave the headphone jack.
Steve Jobs wouldn't have made this terrible decision.
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Agreed. And same if they remove it from their other products.
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Perfectly put
Steve Jobs wouldn't have made this terrible decision.
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Agreed. And same if they remove it from their other products.
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Perfectly put
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Stretching a bit far there. Most people feel they fit well. Sorry they don't fit your weird ears. The sound, while isn't top notch. Is about 30 dollar quality.
Some friends with ties with Chinese manufacturers told me somebody (anonymous) is developing hi-res wifi earphones compatible with Apple Airplay also having bluetooth and nfc on board, no more cues but seems linked to Apple , he gather this from peeking on personnel and parts procurement some where.
I suspect Apple will sell expensive Beats cans with this hi-res wifi capability as part of the new iPhone launch or sooner also .
The advantages of wifi audio is you can stream FLAC or uncompressed audio, Bluetooth don't have enough bandwidth for that, also you can be farther to your audio source as long on wifi direct range or on the same wifi network.
WiFi hi-res audio thru Airplay also enable these cans to work with Apple TV and any iTunes sources making it a multi target solution.
I suspect Apple will sell expensive Beats cans with this hi-res wifi capability as part of the new iPhone launch or sooner also .
The advantages of wifi audio is you can stream FLAC or uncompressed audio, Bluetooth don't have enough bandwidth for that, also you can be farther to your audio source as long on wifi direct range or on the same wifi network.
WiFi hi-res audio thru Airplay also enable these cans to work with Apple TV and any iTunes sources making it a multi target solution.
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