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iPhone 7 No 3.5mm Headphone Jack Solution
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Even better, what if Apple also included a swing out 3.5mm to lightening adaptor for above, so it could use as both bluetooth and lightening adapter to iPhone lightning for audio, and when battery run out, simply plug to iPhone to charge from iPhone battery to bluetooth adaptor battery?
I use my 3.5mm jack daily. Having to keep up with an adapter for my phone so it is 0.1mm thinner or whatever is not something I want to sign on for. I've slowly been feeling pushed away from Apple lately and this is just another shove. I don't want blue tooth headphones that I need to charge and I don't care about a thinner phone. Maybe Apple isn't for me anymore. That is fine.
The problem is once Apple eliminated 3.5mm, every premier Android maker will also follow. iPhone is THE standard for premier smart phone right now.
Able to eliminate component == cost saving == higher revenue. It is not just about thinness.
With that kind of thinking we'd never get anything new. People don't like change, but its needed and I think this is a perfect time to do this and push hardcore for wireless headphones. Wireless headphones have been out for a number of years know, I believe now more and more people are using Bluetooth daily so they're familiar with it. I personally can't wait to see wireless EarPods. I'm gonna be pretty sad if my next iPhone doesn't have wireless EarPods in the box...
This is a non issue if they include wireless EarPods in the box
Except Samsung. They'll tout the 3.5mm headphone jack as a feature in their Galaxies and use it to bash Apple in a commercial. Then the next year, they'll follow suit.
This is a non issue if they include wireless EarPods in the box
And then I have to worry about keeping those charged up along with the phone. I keep an older set of
headphones in the car just for taking phone calls, last thing I need is having to remember to keep them charged. Also not everyone drives a new car with phone sync technology, some of us poor folk actually rely on the 3.5mm jack to play music in the car 
I think I get it.
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I know since I am the OP this kinda changes the direction of this whole thread... but I think my opinion is slowly changing after reading through the comments on this post from today:
iPhone 7 May Feature Thinner, Waterproof Body With No Headphone Jack and Wireless Charging
If Apple can make new, wireless EarPods that have a respectable battery life, and include a detachable lightning cable to charge them and/or use them wired (like some Beats 'phones do now), then it could be a winner. I also like the idea of being able to do a "quick charge" from your iPhone to the headphones for a short burst of battery, like the Apple Pencil, in case you forgot to charge your headphones and want to use them wirelessly for a short period.
Include these features, and I'm all in. Waterproofing would be a great side effect/added bonus. I think looking back on all this (if Apple pulls it off...), people will laugh and wonder why switching to wireless didn't happen sooner.
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How can you solve something that is only a rumor at this point?
Apple and its partners will have any potential impacts addressed if rumors are true.
This whole thread is hypothetical. A hypothetical solution to a hypothetical problem.
And I agree, Apple will have this fully thought-out I'm sure, and may already. But until then, we're just going through the same process they did.
wireless charging would be great bedside, but we're still going to need wireless for the near future.
How are we going to incorporate effectively and reasonably on cars and how about developers compiling and testing on devices, we would still need to connect via USB.
wireless communication and charging has its ways to go but its definitely the future. people complaining about 3.5 mm jacks are people that complained about tape cassettes not being on cars anymore.
don't get me wrong, i have headphones that bump that are on a 3.5 mm Jack. I'm sad they're getting rid of it and I'm sure there will be some inconvenient adapter but I see what apples doing with this.
That's brilliant but would deviate from Apple's current M.O. of offering less under the guise of offering more...less ports, less jacks, less thickness...even if without more battery life, without more user convenience, and without consideration to the user having to keep track of and lug around dongles.
Plus, it wouldn't show courage.
Thread resurrection from the dead.
Thread resurrection from the dead.
Did a dead horse from a couple of years ago need another round of repetitive beating all of a sudden?
The thread you resurrected and the member you quoted was almost last seen two years ago. Doubtful they will be responding to your post in the fashion of you discussing the 3.5 mm Jack.
Nope but the more converts I can create willing to voice their disdain for Apple's unnecessary reduction in customer flexibility & usability for the sake of marketing and minimalism design exercises, the better off we'll all be.
In what way? There definitely were way way more people and discussions about this kind of thing for a while some years ago (after the iOS 7 redesign), and that really didn't lead to anything. What would digging up and giving another beating to that dead horse do at this point?Nope but the more converts I can create willing to voice their disdain for Apple's unnecessary reduction in customer flexibility & usability for the sake of marketing and minimalism design exercises, the better off we'll all be.
Nope but the more converts I can create willing to voice their disdain for Apple's unnecessary reduction in customer flexibility & usability for the sake of marketing and minimalism design exercises, the better off we'll all be.
Converts over quoting someone who has been absent for almost two years? I think you inadvertently resurrected this thread and now you’re seeking some valid reason as to why, when you likely didn’t realize the date of this thread once it was addressed to you. As another member alluded to, your end goal of reviving a thread this old won’t establish anything that has not been discussed ad nauseam.
Well, for one thing you are now reading this thread, which means others are also.
Funny, just like users assume what is best for most users as far as ditching the port that some value, it’s assumed I was speaking to the poster above. I wasn’t particularly concerned with that particular member I quoted. Mostly, I found the comment about adding two lightning ports to be particularly interesting. If the headphone jack was removed supposedly for water resistance, and if Apple really cared about providing the most useful and flexible hardware for their customers instead of continually running things like some minimalism marketing design contest, the idea of a second lightning Jack port would take care of my biggest complaint about losing the headphone jack. Namely, the ability to charge and listen with a corded headset at the same time. I would be willing to suck it up and purchase a few 1/8th inch to lightning port adapters to regain their convenience I preferred. Mainly, the ability to use my many high-quality corded headphones spread out all over, and not be tethered to needing to charge and keep track of Bluetooth or AirPods everywhere I went.
This idea of keeping needing to strip things down and go wireless is getting a little out of hand. After all, even wireless charging still needs a wired base station.
Thank you for coming by and helping spread the word!
I actually didn’t read anything prior in this thread (Nor do I care too) other than the fact no one else commented except you and one other member since you revived it. For whatever Reason, you appeared to be in denial over this and assume it changes something in a thread over two years old? I don’t think you’re establishing anything other than what has been indicated you by two members, which again is a stagnant thread.
You should read prior posts. They discuss how this crazy jack removal idea is nothing but conjecture, and it's super entertaining to look back at how sadly true they were. Also, see my last paragraph in this particular post. I'm not trying to take anything away from your personal particular enjoyment of your Apple product while I liked the idea of bumping the comment about two lightning ports that could be the closest thing to bringing back my level of enjoyment short of having a headphone jack should I need to upgrade my iPhone to one without a headphone jack.
What's your definition of what a forum is for? For discussing only things 6 months old or newer? For discussing Apple news/tech only in terms of agreement and adoration, with a polite golf clap after each post and zero critiques?
I find it particularly entertaining to resurrect a thread where headphone jack removal was speculation and merely a rumor, particularly posts 35-37. And, once again, just because the author of post #4 that I responded to doesn't respond (and just because I have not gathered a crowd of responders around me) means nothing. Many lurk w/o posting and enjoy reading here. Even you enjoy this thread in some way since you are here reading & posting.
With iOS 11, it was a nice surprise to see Apple start to backtrack and fix some of the mistakes introduced with iOS7. The calculator app was redesigned more closer to pre-iOS7, and as a result is much more pleasing and easy to use. The ridiculous 5-circle indicators for signal strength were replaced with much smarter graduated bars (as before), which are much easier to read from a distance and quickly, almost without even thinking about it.
And even though the App store was taken many steps back in usability by the reduced information density presented on a screen, numerous other volume/video interfaces were redesigned away from the awful translucent screen-wasting format to a smaller, more compact format that is better-framed to stand out from the content rather than (uselessly and unnecessarily) blend into the content...point being, the tides seem starting to turn the awful software trends back to being more Apple-like (efficient, clear, intuitive, non-distracting), so it's definitely worthwhile to keep talking about painful aspects of the current hardware that many desire to see changed.
Someone likes the lightning port for headphones or "having a reason" to splurge $150 on AirPods? Great! Would adding a second one hurt them? No! Would it help many, many of us who want to do our daily charge & listen with one of the many corded headphones we keep at different locations simultaneously while not having to lug around a y-jack? Yes. Would it help those of us who don't want to be additionally bothered with charging AirPods and who would bite the bullet and purchase some lightning/jack adapters to keep at home, work, in the car, in the shop, in the basement work area, etc? Yes. Would it help those of us who don't want to see their many corded applications be tossed into a drawer? Yes. Would it hurt your experience? No. Worth forum-ing about.