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Hmm. Since it's unlikely that they're going to use a custom iOS, it sounds like they're just going to write some apps.

Probably a secure documents storage and viewer, a secure email, and an encrypted voice comms app using data instead of cellular.
Sounds like the "Good for Enterprise" app (encrypted data container and intranet enabled email/browser) with added voice capability.
 
The devices will just be enrolled in an MDM (so they can disable the camera, etc.) and they will have secure apps for file storage. They'll probably use a secure VoIP app for calls. Simple stuff but the key thing is the security of the OS that it sits on. iOS ticks all the boxes.
Sounds like the "Good for Enterprise" app (encrypted data container and intranet enabled email/browser) with added voice capability.

Yep. What I love, is the cool sounding "dual persona" project blurb, instead of just saying, "Okay, so you can either use it for normal phone calls if not official business, or you can use the secure VoIP app if it is."

As anyone in business knows, cool feature names are why projects get funded :D

The US uses Samsung as well for DoD! Hopefully we will go Apple.

The US uses Samsung because it uses the NSA-derived Knox kernel, which actually HAS a dual persona (civilian and secure modes), instead of faking it. (No doubt the feature name came from there originally.)

[doublepost=1485534847][/doublepost]I think you'll find that we call it the Ministry of Defence, ie, we spell defence correctly.

When we were kids, my dad would quote us this audio pun (speak it out loud):

"Defeat of deduct went over defence before detail."
 
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Nah, it's totally possible. Apple needs to decide in 2017 whether it wants to continue mediocrity, or it wants to blow the world's psyche again.


I thinks it's clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

A statement that's truly over exaggerated and someone who doesn't understand the smart phone market evolving over a duration of time, not some space aged Device the world has never seen before.
 
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Call me when the iPhone is dead and Apple makes Macs again.

Rather you're being sarcastic or not. The iPhone obviously is not going anywhere. It accumulates 60% of Apple's net profit sales. As far as iMacs are concerned, we'll see what March has to bring.
 
Rather you're being sarcastic or not. The iPhone obviously is not going anywhere. It accumulates 60% of Apple's net profit sales. As far as iMacs are concerned, we'll see what March has to bring.
It's not Apple's choice whether the iPhone dies. The copies (Android) have already taken most of the marketshare and will take the rest once Apple either screws up or, more likely, just can't keep improving to differentiate itself. The generic stuff always wins in the end if the proprietary stuff can't be like Microsoft and find a way to lock down marketshare, which Apple has already failed to do. A shame because they really only lost it from everyone ripping their designs off. See: Cisco routers.
 
It's not Apple's choice whether the iPhone dies. The copies (Android) have already taken most of the marketshare and will take the rest once Apple either screws up or, more likely, just can't keep outdoing the competition. The generic stuff always wins in the end.

You can formulate your opinion on what you want with the iPhone. Considering the iPhone sells millions and millions a year, the only other direct competitor is Samsung.

Regarding the bold statement above, can you share how you know this? Or provide a citation where I can research this?
 
You can formulate your opinion on what you want with the iPhone. Considering the iPhone sells millions and millions a year, the only other direct competitor is Samsung.

Regarding the bold statement above, can you share how you know this? Or provide a citation where I can research this?
Almost* all computer hardware has gone that way. Nobody owns the market for any of it, but someone always did at first. IBM used to have the grip not only on mainframes but the standards for them. Apple started the GUI on PC, gained some popularity, then lost it all to generic hardware + Windows; would be totally dead if MSFT hadn't gotten lazy and Steve Jobs hadn't returned. I also added Cisco's routers as an example in the older post, might've been a ninja edit (sorry).

* Intel and AMD basically split the PC processor market because of the patents on x86, but this is an odd case because there are actually enforceable patents involved, and Apple, MS, and the Unix communities are all heavily supporting it. People were saying iOS would kill x86 as ARM took over, but I don't think so.
 
Almost* all computer hardware has gone that way. Nobody owns the market for any of it, but someone always did at first. IBM used to have the grip not only on mainframes but the standards for them. Apple started the GUI on PC, gained some popularity, then lost it all to generic hardware + Windows; would be totally dead if MSFT hadn't gotten lazy and Steve Jobs hadn't returned. I also added Cisco's routers as an example in the older post, might've been a ninja edit (sorry).

* Intel and AMD basically split the PC processor market because of the patents on x86, but this is an odd case because there are actually enforceable patents involved, and Apple, MS, and the Unix communities are all heavily supporting it. People were saying iOS would kill x86 as ARM took over, but I don't think so.

I understand what you're saying in comparison with the other companies. But the iPhone and being how relevant it is in today's market, there's no denying its a strong selling smart phone on the market with the ecosystem in iOS and security measures. Not primarily because it's the most attractive or innovative, which I agree Samsung has a leg up in some reflects. But because it's a great device that is supported continuously and they stand behind their product, which just works.

ASide from the iPhone contributing to a large portion of marketshare, the MacBook Pro, the AirPods, and Apple Watch, have been a huge contributor to Apples upcoming in this last year. The iPhone is just a small portion or Apple is leading, but 60% of the companies net revenue is astronomical. That says a lot in terms of the millions of devices sold annually.
 
I understand what you're saying in comparison with the other companies. But the iPhone and being how relevant it is in today's market, there's no denying its a strong selling smart phone on the market with the ecosystem in iOS and security measures. Not primarily because it's the most attractive or innovative, which I agree Samsung has a leg up in some reflects. But because it's a great device that is supported continuously and they stand behind their product, which just works.

ASide from the iPhone contributing to a large portion of marketshare, the MacBook Pro, the AirPods, and Apple Watch, have been a huge contributor to Apples upcoming in this last year. The iPhone is just a small portion or Apple is leading, but 60% of the companies net revenue is astronomical. That says a lot in terms of the millions of devices sold annually.
The profits are great, but you don't need to try and extrapolate sales from profits... The sales numbers are available, and they show that Apple is being outsold everywhere. They've been maintaining high profit margins, which I would call a stable, low-plowback/growth strategy. And they seem to acknowledge this: They began issuing substantial dividends sometime after Jobs's death, after Android took the marketshare. You don't issue dividends if you think you're going to grow.

I agree that the product is great and has a great reputation, but as I said, it only takes one screwup to ruin it. Either that or the others just catch up. It's not just Samsung but Google, HTC, etc... Apple has to fight them all, and here they are sitting on profits and cash. No, Samsung won't "win" and become the new Apple. Nobody will; the smartphone market will become divided like everything else has.
 
We need a good level of encryption as we plan where to move our one ship and three airplanes. Don't want those refugees finding out our plans and blowing us up with anthrax bombs.
 
The profits are great, but you don't need to try and extrapolate sales from profits... The sales numbers are available, and they show that Apple is being outsold everywhere. They've been maintaining high profit margins, which I would call a stable, low-plowback/growth strategy. And they seem to acknowledge this: They began issuing substantial dividends sometime after Jobs's death, after Android took the marketshare. You don't issue dividends if you think you're going to grow.

I agree that the product is great and has a great reputation, but as I said, it only takes one screwup to ruin it. Either that or the others just catch up. It's not just Samsung but Google, HTC, etc... Apple has to fight them all, and here they are sitting on profits and cash. No, Samsung won't "win" and become the new Apple. Nobody will; the smartphone market will become divided like everything else has.
About ruining it, Samsung inc may be doing fine but Samsung mobile division took that hit from that one screw up. Not only is Samsung battling Apple it's also battling other competitors giving 90% of the galaxy at 50-60% of the price.

Unless Apple goes under our house will be iOs on iPads and iPhone...sprinkle in some Mackbooks alongside of Windows. I like the way the devices interact...not looking for a generic android phone that actually does less.

About the sales numbers the only true numbers are what comes from Apple..everybody else is a guess(maybe a good guess but a guess)
 
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It seems almost incredible that it wasn't the case from the start.

Please. They should be using Nokia 3310, battery lasts forever and you can run them over with a tank. And a replaceable battery....none of this random shutting down .
 
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