iPhone 7 Plus Said to Have 256GB Option and Larger 3,100 mAh Battery

[Tycho24]

Still, judging by previous record, Apple will increase the RAM in 2018.

Remember
iPhone 5: 1gb
iPhone 5s: 1gb
iPhone 6: 1gb

It took 3 years to increase, so i was off by only 1 year. 2gb is still pitiful in Todays standards. And 3gb will be pitiful when Apple increases it in 2018. Remember today's Apple is all about shareholder value and maximizing profits. If it were for Tim he would have kept 1gb for another 2 years, and i bet it took months for engineers to persuade Tim to increase it to 2gb

Lol, if you're a specs whore... you're backing the wrong horse!
I think it's a Samsung that you're after. I'm sure they'll have an 8gb phone soon & pack it so full of bloatware that it STILL lags. (for serious... even the most favorable S6 reviews said "with barely perceptible lag", as if that's acceptable from a top tier phone!) Now, while I will happily agree that 2gb ram on iPhone 6S & iPad Air 2 was overdue & I was experiencing the same Safari refreshes as everyone else... I also will be the first to concede that doubling the RAM handled the issue. Saying that the fastest phone on the planet is "pitiful" is either a sad attempt to get attention, or a woeful misunderstanding of that word.
In my opinion: most other RAM upgrades happened as necessary, and the last one went one gen too long.
I'd say that 4gb in the iPad Pro & this rumor of the iPhone 7 Plus having 3gb go some ways toward showing that Apple isn't eager for that to happen again.

 

[dark_knight177]

Lol, if you're a specs whore... you're backing the wrong horse!
I think it's a Samsung that you're after. I'm sure they'll have an 8gb phone soon & pack it so full of bloatware that it STILL lags. (for serious... even the most favorable S6 reviews said "with barely perceptible lag", as if that's acceptable from a top tier phone!) Now, while I will happily agree that 2gb ram on iPhone 6S & iPad Air 2 was overdue & I was experiencing the same Safari refreshes as everyone else... I also will be the first to concede that doubling the RAM handled the issue. Saying that the fastest phone on the planet is "pitiful" is either a sad attempt to get attention, or a woeful misunderstanding of that word.
In my opinion: most other RAM upgrades happened as necessary, and the last one went one gen too long.
I'd say that 4gb in the iPad Pro & this rumor of the iPhone 7 Plus having 3gb go some ways toward showing that Apple isn't eager for that to happen again.

I will back whichever horse is less evil and more consumer friendly. In the past it used to be Apple, right now it's Google and Nexus 6P.
And i own iPhone 6S Plus and it's a total lagfest, despite having the most powerful Chip in the world. You either don't own iPhone 6S plus or you drink way too much Apple koolaid

 

[Michael Goff]

I will back whichever horse is less evil and more consumer friendly. In the past it used to be Apple, right now it's Google and Nexus 6P.
And i own iPhone 6S Plus and it's a total lagfest, despite having the most powerful Chip in the world. You either don't own iPhone 6S plus or you drink way too much Apple koolaid

Lag Fest? Really? That's what you're going with?

 

[Roessnakhan]

Even if it includes a small lightning to headphone jack adapter? How can they not, given that there's no audiophile grade headphones with a lightning connector.

I'm sure they would include an adapter, but I doubt I'd still get the phone if it had no headphone jack. If they do include an adapter, replacements would have to be dirt cheap, which is unlikely coming from Apple.

 

[HVDynamo]

Why?
Do you not buy macs anymore because they dont have an optical drive?
Seriously...
Who doesnt use a bluetooth headset?
3.5 mm are prone to break off in the port anyway...

I don't. and I really don't want yet another device to charge. I have never had any issue with the 3.5mm connector breaking off either. All of my headphones use the standard 3.5mm jack and I use it frequently. If they get rid of that port that may be the final straw on pushing me to android. But I just ordered a 6S to renew my unlimited contract that I won't be able to renew any longer after Jan 8th. maybe that will be my last upgrade for quite a bit.

 

[iSee]

Try running a business - you're in business to serve customer needs. Not to connive or deceive people into doing things the business' way because it's better for the business to wrongly fleece the customers. That's surely not the American way, not the moral way, not the ethical way, not the evolved way... and then people wonder why the world is going to hell... (duh?!!)

And maybe some people are still pissed that the CEO screamed "You're holding it wrong" then found out said CEO knew about the defect as told to him by an engineer and promptly ignored the issue to let the defect go to market, so he could then get off on blaming the customers. Now most people running businesses acting like THAT wouldn't last much longer. Yet that was the CEO that gets praised that everyone should be like. No wonder America is in the toilet, people using and abusing and fleecing one another is not the sort of "American value" most of us were brought up on, or the sort of issue that most Ethics classes taught in school or college would condone... yes, the iphone 4 is five years old. It's not the only time Apple got caught with its pants down. Cook's done some good, but he still has a lot of work to do. Since the same philosophy of smaller and thinner is still in play, anyone doing CPU or GPU intensive work will suffer as a result with reduced product lifespan and that's being environmentally wasteful. (and it's a shame the one technical review site I use no longer does processor core benchmarks, only "skin temps" (surface temperature) nowadays that are a waste of time... time to find another review site if they're going to not do a proper benchmark so potential customers can have a properly educated and informed decision to make...)

Wha? I'm really not sure we're on the same plane of reality.

 

[Zakkates]

I rarely use my 3.5mm jack any more. I always use my bluetooth headphones for music and talking on the phone.

I'd be happy to see them get rid of the 3.5mm jack.... and make it waterproof.

The iPhone 7 could be the best phone on the market in 2016. But I still wont buy it if it doesn't include a standard 3.5mm headphone jack, regardless whether or not the lightning port can give higher quality audio.

 

[AxoNeuron]

Complaining about 16GB is weak, you're really complaining about price. Stop complaining about 16GB and stop holding your phone like Steve Jobs. If Apple offered each storage increment for $5 more, you wouldn't be complaining about 16GB.

Complaining about 16GB being not enough to enjoy the iPhone to its full potential is weak when Apple offers larger storage options.

Complaining about clueless people buying 16GB and thinking iOS sucks is weak. A valid complaint would be Apple employees not informing new buyers that 16GB is not a lot of storage to enjoy the iPhone to its full potential.

By this logic, it would be totally OK if Apple started selling 8GB phones again.

Dude, it's time to realize that you've been drinking too much of the koolaid, you're essentially a corporate consumer drone.

 

[Mac 128]

I'm sure they would include an adapter, but I doubt I'd still get the phone if it had no headphone jack. If they do include an adapter, replacements would have to be dirt cheap, which is unlikely coming from Apple.

No, I seriously doubt they will include an adapter, for the very reason that not everyone uses a 3.5mm audio device, if any. I know I don't. I use bluetooth/wifi exclusively, and would love more Lightning audio products for it, for the times I do plug in my phone, and this move will encourage that.

However, if the choice was buying a tiny $20 adapter to continue using a substantial investment in 3.5mm audio gear, versus giving up Apple's tightly integrated ecosystem, their well designed products, and my time and money invested in iTunes purchases and organization, etc. I'd probably just buy the adapter.

Case in point: I work at a major corporation which requires a hard-wired Ethernet connection to access the company's secure network. But I have a 13" MacBook Pro which does not have an Ethernet Port. So I have to use a dongle every day to connect to my Company's Ethernet, wherever I need access to the secure server across our sprawling campus. But it sure didn't compel me to switch to Windows.

However, if Apple truly does this, their dongle will be much more streamlined and invisible than my Ethernet dongle, and only needing to be removed from one's headphones to plug them into a legacy device. If they're smart, it will include a tether so it will be harder to lose. And while Apple's dongle will not be dirt cheap, there will be plenty of third parties to fill that niche.

 

[Burger Thing]

I'm sure they would include an adapter, but I doubt I'd still get the phone if it had no headphone jack. If they do include an adapter, replacements would have to be dirt cheap, which is unlikely coming from Apple.

And not to forget: it wouldn't be 'just' an adapter. The Lightning port doesn't carry an analog audio signal. You would have to convert a digital signal first into an analog one in order to make it work with a standard headphone and your ears.

So we are talking more about a small external DAC amplifier. So in order to enjoy high quality audio -the one you don't get with Bluetooth- you would walk around with iPhone + external DAC + headphones. And, of course, your iPhone would still have also an internal DAC, which would still be there but in that scenario sitting there idle doing nothing.

 

[arturmeireles]

All i want is a normal price for the latest version, not cheaper phone with last years tech. If Google can do this with Nexus 5x (€399\16GB, €499\32GB), Apple can do the same.

Of course Apple can make iPhones for 499€ but you are paying for the brand and status so Apple will probably never lower its prices. Its like comparing the price of an expresso at a Miami cuban coffee place with the price of an expresso at Starbucks.

 

[Mac 128]

So we are talking more about a small external DAC amplifier. So in order to enjoy high quality audio -the one you don't get with Bluetooth- you would walk around with iPhone + external DAC + headphones. And, of course, your iPhone would still have also an internal DAC, which would still be there but in that scenario sitting there idle doing nothing.

The internal DAC just sits there whenever I connect my phone via Bluetooth, or AirPlay, which is most of the time. So I'm not sure I understand your point here.

 

[sp3k0psv3t]

If this rumor ends up being true I will not be a happy camper.

I am highly disturbed by the notion that a larger screen size is becoming the differentiator between Apple's top of the line phone, and a "second class citizen" phone.

I can understand a larger battery, because the larger phone simply has more real estate in it. And the fully active image stabilzation might be defensible from a standpoint of being able to fit the tech inside. But there is absolutely no reason to offer more storage on the larger phone than the standard iPhone. Just because I don't want to carry a phablet in by pocket, and hold a frozen waffle against my ear does not mean that I don't need and want the best performance.

Should I be able to get a larger SSD in a 15" MacBook Pro than in a 13"?

Well no, you should not be able to get a larger HD in a 15" MBP than in a 13" MBP "unless" the physical space requirements are different; but NOT for the reason(s) you reference.

With a laptop, the form, shape, and physical size of the HD is an industry standard used by all computer manufacturers and produced by all HD production companies. The amount of HD storage space able to be implemented within that specified physical space is controlled by the type of hard drive used and construction designs by corporate producers of those hard drives. For example Samsung and others now beginning to offer 2TB laptop SSD options (and also HD options) in that physical size. So if he physical space within the computer unit is the SAME on both the 13" and the 15" computers, the amount of space that can be offered will not be different. However, if the physical space IS different than YES the storage options WILL BE different for the 13" and the 15" computers. For example, if the 13" is using PCIE Flash based HD storage and the 15" is using a standard platter HD than theoretically the 13" could provide bigger HD storage options, and vis-a-vis the 15" when compared to the 13".

Now, with an iPhone, it is entirely possible that the larger storage options available on the + model are NOT available on the regular model phone simply because of the physical size of the device. It's not a matter of Apple screwing over customers, it's the storage technology being used. Until recently, the availability of 128GB as a storage option was limited due to being composed of 2 X 64GB storage chips. Now then can accomplish this in 1 X 128GB storage chip. Apple is now supposedly pushing that to 256GB. I am not sure, but if it's 2 X 128GB storage chips, then there would NOT be room in the smaller device to install the 2 necessary chips that is available on the larger + device. This has everything to do with why Apple is offering MORE storage in the larger device when compared to the smaller device, and NOT a conspiracy to hold back storage options. If they could do it through the technology available, creating a higher storage tier in the smaller handset would be just another opportunity for Apple to make additional revenue with another product sku.

** This reply regarding storage options based on technological limits is simplistic in nature. I do not want to get into logic board components and CPU architectures, etc. I am just referencing the HD technology being used and do not want to argue feasibility of North and Soutj Bridge controllers on an iPhone logic board or the coding architecture being unable to support large memory registers, etc. thanks guys.


Best,

JS

 

[Four oF NINE]

Apple always limits features to the larger, more expensive machines.

You can make that argument for computers, it's not justifiable for phones. An oversize screen isn't inherently more desirable for most people. I find it insulting.

 

[rdlink]

Well no, you should not be able to get a larger HD in a 15" MBP than in a 13" MBP "unless" the physical space requirements are different; but NOT for the reason(s) you reference.

With a laptop, the form, shape, and physical size of the HD is an industry standard used by all computer manufacturers and produced by all HD production companies. The amount of HD storage space able to be implemented within that specified physical space is controlled by the type of hard drive used and construction designs by corporate producers of those hard drives. For example Samsung and others now beginning to offer 2TB laptop SSD options (and also HD options) in that physical size. So if he physical space within the computer unit is the SAME on both the 13" and the 15" computers, the amount of space that can be offered will not be different. However, if the physical space IS different than YES the storage options WILL BE different for the 13" and the 15" computers. For example, if the 13" is using PCIE Flash based HD storage and the 15" is using a standard platter HD than theoretically the 13" could provide bigger HD storage options, and vis-a-vis the 15" when compared to the 13".

Now, with an iPhone, it is entirely possible that the larger storage options available on the + model are NOT available on the regular model phone simply because of the physical size of the device. It's not a matter of Apple screwing over customers, it's the storage technology being used. Until recently, the availability of 128GB as a storage option was limited due to being composed of 2 X 64GB storage chips. Now then can accomplish this in 1 X 128GB storage chip. Apple is now supposedly pushing that to 256GB. I am not sure, but if it's 2 X 128GB storage chips, then there would NOT be room in the smaller device to install the 2 necessary chips that is available on the larger + device. This has everything to do with why Apple is offering MORE storage in the larger device when compared to the smaller device, and NOT a conspiracy to hold back storage options. If they could do it through the technology available, creating a higher storage tier in the smaller handset would be just another opportunity for Apple to make additional revenue with another product sku.

** This reply regarding storage options based on technological limits is simplistic in nature. I do not want to get into logic board components and CPU architectures, etc. I am just referencing the HD technology being used and do not want to argue feasibility of North and Soutj Bridge controllers on an iPhone logic board or the coding architecture being unable to support large memory registers, etc. thanks guys.


Best,

JS

I don't disagree with the concept of what you're saying, and I had already taken that into consideration when I posted my opinion (rant?). But my position was based on the knowledge that I am fairly confident that Apple, and this point in time can figure out a way to fit 256GB of storage in the same space that they can fit 128GB. When you consider the fact that you can currently buy a standard 256GB USB flash drive in the same small form factor as a 128GB, it is not beyond reality Apple could fairly easily fit 256GB in the same space that they are currently placing 128GB.

As you stated above, this is a fairly simplistic view. But the notion of differentiating storage in different sized iphones is one that I am very sensitive about, because I believe it would denote the beginning of a slide down a slippery slope.

And to be clear I don't think that Apple going down that road would be due to any intention of "screwing over customers." I just think it would be a dangerous turn down the road of forking the larger screened phone into a more premium product than the smaller screened one. I will never own a Plus model iPhone, and the day that I have to make a choice between getting the screen size I want and getting the latest tech will be the day that I may be forced to consider leaving the ecosystem. Something I don't want to do, becuase I hate the Android OS.

 

[Tycho24]

I will back whichever horse is less evil and more consumer friendly. In the past it used to be Apple, right now it's Google and Nexus 6P.
And i own iPhone 6S Plus and it's a total lagfest, despite having the most powerful Chip in the world. You either don't own iPhone 6S plus or you drink way too much Apple koolaid

I do own one & you're just a straight up liar!
Sorry, bro.
I was just reading earlier today on Anandtech about precisely why 6S eats every Android phone's lunch speed wise... I guess it's this new custom ssd controller that is the same one used in the MacBook Pro & allows for desktop architecture speeds on mobile for the 1st time!
Soooo... while that is a "cool story", facts trump fantasy.

 

[dark_knight177]

I do own one & you're just a straight up liar!
Sorry, bro.
I was just reading earlier today on Anandtech about precisely why 6S eats every Android phone's lunch speed wise... I guess it's this new custom ssd controller that is the same one used in the MacBook Pro & allows for desktop architecture speeds on mobile for the 1st time!
Soooo... while that is a "cool story", facts trump fantasy.

You know nothing about speed. Having the best benchmark score DOES NOT equal to best real world performance!!!
It looks like you are the Spec whore, not me.

iOS 9 is so inefficient and laggy that any CPU advantages it has are completely negated.

Watch YouTube videos where Nexus 6P obliterates iPhone 6S in real world performance like opening a bunch of apps, despite having worse specs than iPhone 6S.

 

[Tech198]

well 'relative performance' not 'real word performance'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)

 

[Tycho24]

You know nothing about speed. Having the best benchmark score DOES NOT equal to best real world performance!!!
It looks like you are the Spec whore, not me.

iOS 9 is so inefficient and laggy that any CPU advantages it has are completely negated.

Watch YouTube videos where Nexus 6P obliterates iPhone 6S in real world performance like opening a bunch of apps, despite having worse specs than iPhone 6S.

Hahahahahahahaha......
Omg, I actually (briefly) considered the possibility that perhaps Google had made a worthy contender with their latest Nexus & that (however unlikely), Anandtech was wrong & that although my years of tech expertise DO tell me that with the speed of processors & RAM being so high, that hard drives would naturally be the bottleneck & thus... whoever has the fastest SSD, would have the fastest mobile device... I was willing to eat crow if need be.
Good thing you are sooooooo wrong & literally either making things up, or have convinced yourself somehow (in clear defiance of reality), that you are correct.

At any rate... I did as you suggested: I searched YouTube for "nexus 6p vs iphone 6s", then I clicked on the top result. It was a VERY well done 10 minute comparison.
Here's the highlights:
After showing that yes, the 6S trounces the 6P in the benchmarks, they switched to real world performance .
Turns out... the same high-end app (the game, Asphalt) took OVER TWELVE SECONDS MORE TO EVEN LAUNCH AFTER IT WAS ALREADY RUNNING ON THE 6S.

So, please... for your own sake: PLEASE quit pretending that the 6S is laggy & slow. It simply isn't. You're quantifiably incorrect. This is getting sad. I don't enjoy proving you wrong & I'm not out to embarrass you, but I simply won't let you make up lies without calling you out.

You may (and probably do!!!) have a bunch of insightful and interesting things to say... either your opinion, or interpretation of known facts. I don't want to argue. Seriously. It's over. The iPhone 6S is mad fast & calling it a "slow & laggy" phone on here is like going on a car forum & saying that a Veyron is slow... hate that car or not, that is just a factually inaccurate statement.

 

[dark_knight177]

(the game, Asphalt) took OVER TWELVE SECONDS MORE TO EVEN LAUNCH AFTER IT WAS ALREADY RUNNING ON THE 6S.

Being that Aslphalt the only app which took long, is telling me that it has to do with Aslphalt being unoptimized for Android. The lazy developers just took the code from iOS and made minimal effort to make it run on Android.

Just about any other App runs and performs much faster on 6P compared to 6S and that's a fact!
But I am sure you can't see that since you pray to your Macbook and iPhone.

Either way, enjoy your laggy and more expensive phone and keep drinking that koolaid

Nexus 6P obliterates iPhone 6S in real world performance, despite having worse specs and slower storage.

I own both and can tell the difference immediately.

 

[Siris4]

They could make an headphone jack/lightning port combo. Just have a bulge on one side.

I have a bulge on the side. For this phone.

 

[Xiroteus]

Since phones make such advances year after year using memory for different price points is just the easiest thing to market. Aside from upselling there is no great reason a phone company cannot just upgrade the entire phone with the highest and best including storage. Better camera, better screen, better GPU, CPU, battery etc.... yet lets skimp on the memory.

For $700 dollars a company could really sell just one sell phone with the highest memory. *I know, money money money*

Here is your phone, it has everything!

With tablets and others devices dropping a lot of flag ship phone prices really feel over priced anyway.

 

[Benjamin Frost]

256 GB? Lame. My next phone needs to have at least 256 TB.

I'm not sure that most people need that much storage.

But I agree that it should be at least a few terabytes. I'd like to see at least 2TB, 4TB and 6TB offerings for the next iPhone and iPad. Otherwise, Apple can never say the iPad will replace the desktop.

 

[djgamble]

Everyone needs cargo pants! Or at least not those BS skinny jeans.

That's the irony ay...

In the 90's, cargos were super popular, but phones were tiny. Now people are wearing tight chinos, then cramming tablet-sized phones into their pockets.

IMO a bigger screen is a lame selling point for a phone. Oh yay... my MOBILE phone is less mobile because Same-song copied the iPhone, but used 'big screen' as a marketing point (when Jobs had intentionally used a smaller screen because it makes sense with touch gestures, and fits in your pocket). Text is too small? Heard of pinch...? The phone idea of the iPhone's OS is that you can view websites designed for full-sized computers by zooming in on what you wanna read.

Grrr... bloody bigger screens!

 

[EdwardSmith36]

If it happens in real, then no one will go for any other option. Selling rate will touch to sky in no time.