iPhone 7 Predicted to Adopt Lightning Headphones Without Noise-Canceling Capabilities

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple is likely to wait until 2017 and the "iPhone 7s" to introduce noise-canceling headphones, according to a Barclays analyst report posted today. In the report, analysts Blayne Curtis and Christopher Hemmelgarn believe that 2016's iPhone 7 will include a Lightning-equipped headphone accessory, with the "potential" for a dynamic noise-canceling system to be introduced next year.

    The analysts believe Apple will use a basic digital codec in 2016, allowing the company to introduce Lightning-connected headphones later in the year. This move will prepare Apple for the possibility of including Cirrus Logic's (an Apple audio supplier) more advanced noise-cancellation smart codec in 2017, which requires a digital codec to be installed in the first place.
    Rumors surrounding the exclusion of a 3.5mm headphone jack in the iPhone 7 began earlier in the year, although it was unclear whether the accessory would ship in the box or be sold as a separate purchase under the Beats by Dre brand. According to the analysts in today's report, the 3.5mm headphone jack will be replaced by another speaker thanks to an additional amp also provided by Cirrus Logic.

    Other rumors have suggested that Apple is preparing a Bluetooth solution for an upcoming iPhone line, similar in vein to the Bragi Dash headphones, which are finally beginning to ship out to early pre-order customers after over a year of waiting. The headphones would be completely wireless, with two separate pods that require regular charging.

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  2. Sirious macrumors 65816


    Jan 2, 2013
    United Kingdom
  3. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Yep because a Barclays analyst is where I go to get my Apple rumors. Slow news week indeed.
  4. Rayfire macrumors 68030


    Aug 25, 2008
    I would lean on the Bluetooth solution more, just cause I hate dangling wires when I'm out doing errands, I just hope they can provide better battery life on it.
  5. street.cory macrumors 6502


    Oct 13, 2009
    I like the utility of a headphone jack.

    If this is true I'll most likely hold onto my 6S Plus for a while longer
  6. Waxhead138 macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2012
    Anyone ever notice that "Analyst" sounds a whole lot like "Random List"? As in a random list of guesses.

    Lol...although this rumor of the death to the 3.5 mm jack is starting to gather some steam. If this turns out true, I wouldn't mind it being replaced with another speaker.
  7. jonnyb macrumors 65816

    Jan 21, 2005
    Rye/London, UK
  8. Waxhead138 macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2012
    Well, Barclays does handle Apple's no interest financing, at least when you buy direct from Apple. It's not too far gone to think that over the years some contacts have been made and some info may exchange hands from one entity to the other.
  9. GenesisST, Feb 12, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2016

    GenesisST macrumors 68000


    Jan 23, 2006
    Where I live
    Such a decrepit old device! ;-)
  10. machpost macrumors 6502


    Jan 28, 2010
    Washington, DC
    And when I want to use all the wired headphones I've already invested in, the Lightning to 3.5mm jack from Apple will only cost me $49.99!
  11. logicstudiouser macrumors 6502


    Feb 4, 2010
  12. AxoNeuron macrumors 65816


    Apr 22, 2012
    The Left Coast
    I don't really care about the headphones part.

    What really matters is that they bump the base storage to 32GB. If they don't, it's really dead on arrival.
  13. samxv macrumors newbie


    Sep 23, 2015
    I want noise cancellation but I use my apple headphones for everything... my work pcs/tvs/ps4 controller do not accept and will never accept lightning...
  14. thatanonymoususer, Feb 12, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2016

    thatanonymoususer macrumors regular


    Oct 12, 2015
    The second speaker rumor would be nice if it came in stereo. The current on-phone offerings are a bit lacking. I won't mind the removal of the jack if and only if they make their bluetooth high-quality audio compatibility better.

    Edit: Another nice option would be to make actual lossless wireless audio a (portable) reality like AirPlay. I know that I can get better audio that way as I wouldn't have to rely on the iPhone's lackluster DAC. It sounds good - but it's not as good as the MacBook Pros. It can't support the full dynamic range and full-sounding bass in the way that a bigger amp can, and once that sound has been flattened, you can't get it back.
  15. garirry macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2013
    Canada is my city
    I know that this problem has been discussed for a few months now, but seriously, the 3.5mm jack is one of the most important and universal pieces of hardware that was ever made. You can find it on 20-year old computers even. Why remove it? Is there a problem? Is it really so thick that you need to remove it to make the phone even thinner? Because the iPod Nano is as thin as the headphone jack, so I don't see the problem. And even then, making an existing phone thinner, even though it has bending and camera protrusion problems, is like the stupidest idea ever.

    These people at Apple are out of their mind. Removing one of the most universal pieces of technology for the sake of making their phones thinner and such. I feel that we're lucky that it stayed alive for so long, and then remove it for the worst reason? Lightning nor Bluetooth will even come CLOSE to replacing 3.5mm. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Now we have to shove that sentence up the Apple executives' ass before they understand.
  16. jvanus macrumors newbie

    Mar 24, 2015
    If they really do drop the standard headset jack, I might already have my last iPhone. Sad because I've been using them since the second generation.
  17. TheRemix18 macrumors newbie

    Jul 5, 2015
    That's what people said for 6 and then 6s.
  18. Schnort macrumors regular

    Oct 24, 2013
    If they go bluetooth only (because, c'mon, the lightning connector is fragile, it can't be used as a stereo headphone replacement), they better begin to support APT-X. Standard bluetooth A2DP w/SBC codec sucks balls, and nobody support AAC as a codec in their bluetooth headphones.
  19. deany macrumors 68030


    Sep 16, 2012
    North Wales
    very pleased they are waiting to 2017, more time for apple inc to change their mind & keep the _world standard_ 3.5mm headphone jack.
  20. igorsky Suspended

    Mar 9, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    Yep, and they'll be saying the same for the 7.
  21. AxoNeuron macrumors 65816


    Apr 22, 2012
    The Left Coast
    And the fact that Apple kept a pathetic 16GB as the base storage was ridiculous two years ago. In the year 2016 though, it would be absolutely jaw-droppingly stupid. NAND prices have taken an incredible dive over the past 5 years, and there's simply no excuse for Apple to still be selling a $650 16GB device.
  22. scaramoosh macrumors 6502a

    Nov 30, 2014
    Passive noise canceling is the way to go since Apple do not allow you to turn active off on their headphones. Seriously Beats Studio Wireless are THE worst headphones I've ever had, not only is their bluetooth performance bad, but they just hiss constantly and you cannot turn it off, meaning they're useless for quiet places.
  23. thatanonymoususer macrumors regular


    Oct 12, 2015
    I agree with you, but I wouldn't say that support for AAC is non-existent. I have a pair of Sony headphones that support it, and My Plantronics also support AAC as a format. Many recent releases for Bluetooth headphones do support the format. Oddly enough though, they don't seem to advertise that fact on their Amazon product pages - just on the box when you get it.

    My biggest problem with the way that modern bluetooth headphones work is the audio quality when the microphone is enabled. They always seem to drop down to the lowest possible quality when that happens, so Bluetooth headphones for gaming while talking to people always sound like complete crap.
  24. Yaccity macrumors member


    Jul 18, 2014
    I will gladly give up the headphone jack for stereo speakers. All of my speakers/headphones are Bluetooth.
  25. FSMBP macrumors 68020


    Jan 22, 2009
    Exactly...now you'll have your "iPhone headphones". They can't even connect to your Mac.

    If Apple is hell-bent on looking to remove dated tech, they should remove mechanical harddrives from all their Macs and use SSDs.

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