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.15 cents? Not even a full cent a day?!

So what is the proper term if you think you're so smart?

15. a day? 15.00 a day?

C'mon, I'd love to hear your answer.
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Clarifies his knowledge on the subject.

Pretty sure that factory workers aren't on Apple's payroll, so it'd be more accurate to say that Apple pays them $0.00/day.

Nowhere does it say Apple pays them.
 
This is impossible because we all know Apple doesn't innovate.

Did I hear SamsungPay
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I wasn't talking about wireless charging. I was talking about the comprehensive EMI shielding that will become ubiquitous after Apple releases their solution. We know as this has also happened before.

Love people who are quick to point out Apple's borrowed ideas, but turn their blinders on when it comes to the reverse.

We'll have to see what "solution" Apple has in mind. However, I have seen some smartphones already for a while where every single chip was capped with an EMI shield. Indeed, pretty much every Lumia smartphone has had every single chip capped with an EMI shield since they began making smartphones. E.g., https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia+Lumia+1520+Teardown/23924 . Compare with Apple, which caps only some of the chips with EMI shields on the iPhone.

If this means that Apple will just be using more caps, good for them, but it's not exactly innovation. If Apple comes up with some novel way of shielding which is better or cheaper than traditionally soldered shields, then that would be cool and we can see how innovative it is after the tests. This rumor doesn't suggest the latter is more likely than the former though.
 
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They're already shielding the components that would need to be shielded for that.

Individual shielding would get you a lot of things.
  • Fewer and/or smaller passive components. If shielding is meeting your EMI needs, you can cut back on components used for filtering.
  • If you use fewer components for filtering, you're generally wasting less power with voltage drops through components necessary to achieve your filtering requirements.
  • You've just increased the mass and surface area of a big hunk of metal. That will give a better thermal path for some circuits and give general thermal relief.
  • Better performance. Of course, with better shielding, circuits will have extended usable ranges of operation.


Thank you very much for sharing this!

I appreciate!
 
We'll have to see what "solution" Apple has in mind.

If this means that Apple will just be using more caps, good for them, but it's not exactly innovation. If Apple comes up with some novel way of shielding which is better or cheaper than traditionally soldered shields, then that would be cool and we can see how innovative it is after the tests. This rumor doesn't suggest the latter is more likely than the former though.

If you bothered to read the article, you'd find out what they're doing.

EMI Shield technology on semiconductor chips takes place by adding a process that covers surface of packaging with ultra-thin metal. Packaging businesses perform such process by using sputter that covers chips ultra-thin metal shield.

They're sputtering metal on top of chips. They can electrically shield the chip without having to package the device with a metal lid or shield.
 
Did I hear SamsungPay
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Is that real? I can't believe it's real, it would be the greatest typo of the last thousand years.


This is fake.

look here:

http://www.channel24.co.za/Gossip/News/Samsungs-naughty-penis-billboard-is-a-fake-20131127



but nevertheless: in a certain sense, the fake contains a statement that might not be so false….

because some men are "thinking" more with their b*lls or "special Pencil" than with their brain….

:D


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Nope. Lower EMI, better for FCC screening.
Probably finding that higher frequency parts are requiring more shielding to get pass FCC

This. Which has nothing to do with ...

TL;DR: Reduction of electromagnetic radiation might provide health benefits

Note that when phone engineers talk about "radiation", they're not taking about nuclear radiation. They mean like radio waves from an antenna, or sound waves radiating from a speaker, or heat waves radiating from an electric heater, or light radiating from a bulb. I.e. it simply means "to spread", same as with "she radiates happiness".

Anyway, individual chips aren't the reason it's suggested to keep an iPhone from touching your head.

It's because of the high SAR from the top cellular antenna. The SAR (Specific Absorption Ratio) is a measure of the amount of electromagnetic waves your cells absorb from a device at various locations.

One problem with a higher SAR is that it could cause nearby brain cells to heat up, with health results that are still in debate. Fortunately, an adult skull is pretty good at blocking RF waves. The weak points are its openings for our ears and jaw.
 
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Me thinks inductive charging works poorly through aluminum case. And more shielding is needed if case is not aluminum.

So..... Will we finally see the carbon fiber iPhone?
 
We'll have to see what "solution" Apple has in mind. However, I have seen some smartphones already for a while where every single chip was capped with an EMI shield. Indeed, pretty much every Lumia smartphone has had every single chip capped with an EMI shield since they began making smartphones. E.g., https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia+Lumia+1520+Teardown/23924 . Compare with Apple, which caps only some of the chips with EMI shields on the iPhone.

If this means that Apple will just be using more caps, good for them, but it's not exactly innovation. If Apple comes up with some novel way of shielding which is better or cheaper than traditionally soldered shields, then that would be cool and we can see how innovative it is after the tests. This rumor doesn't suggest the latter is more likely than the former though.

Funny how you couldn't be bothered to actually read before sputtering this. Do it next time.
 
If you bothered to read the article, you'd find out what they're doing.

Funny how you couldn't be bothered to actually read before sputtering this. Do it next time.

Why do some MR members feel the need to respond with these passive-aggressive and totally nonconstructive responses?

I did read the article. I read it, I thought about it critically (something obviously a few others here did not do), I compared it with my experience, and realized the article doesn't actually say anything substantive.

The article says only the following on the topic:
EMI Shield technology on semiconductor chips takes place by adding a process that covers surface of packaging with ultra-thin metal. Packaging businesses perform such process by using sputter that covers chips ultra-thin metal shield. Packaged chips will be loaded onto EMI Shield sputters, and handler equipment (unloaded) that takes out chip packages that are done with shielding process is also necessary. Competitive edges in sputters and handlers are stability, precision, and speed. They will be able to evenly sprinkle metals on top of chips for shielding. Handlers are also have to be able to load and unload chip packages on sputters fast and precisely.

Setting aside the poor grammar (maybe a machine translation from Chinese?), this paragraph also doesn't describe how Apple will do it. It makes a generic description about one type of EMI shielding, and asserting that it will be better in various ways without actually giving a single reason. Otherwise it's a pretty empty paragraph. Answer this question: after reading this article, do you know more facts than you did prior to reading it? The answer is mostly no. I'll admit I did not know Apple used this sputtering method on the S1 SoC - so I guess that was new to me...
 
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Obviously this is Apples first secret step in EMP protection for the iPhone.
True this.
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Previous Incorrect Statement: The health aspect of this is really intriguing. While various studies have not concluded whether electromagnetic radiation is bad, Apple added, interestingly enough, the "keep iPhone at least 15 mm (5/8 inch) away from the body" message in the iPhone 4's Important Product Information Guide. Also note that the Apple Watch already has this feature and they feel comfortable not to include this message in any of its documentation. Regardless, this new process, if implemented, should lower radiation coming from the iPhone 7 and it never hurts to be "safe than sorry."

Corrected Version: I'm going to defer as to what is going on to to kdarling:


So, I made an ignorant statement about how the reduction of electromagnetic radiation for the chip might provide health benefits. Instead, this really won't make any difference in the radiation output of the device. The top cellular antenna is really what is outputting, possibly harmful, radiation. As a result, this change is irrelevant to that. Thanks kdarling for letting me know! (Sorry mods for changing the post, but I thought it was important that I not give false information.)

TL;DR: The top cellular antenna is really what is outputting, possibly harmful, radiation so this possible change is irrelevant to that.
So can we now state this is the first move intend to reduce SAR exposure to the head and body regarding to upcoming scientific consensus and (as result) Governmental precautionary measures that reduce radiation exposure?
 
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