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If there is only 1 video on the matter in question which is the case in this water resistance claim and not tons of em all pointing towards the same conclusion then sure

Moving the goalposts. Got it.:rolleyes:


You do realise lying isnt getting him anywhere right?.I can understand making sensational claims on YouTube to increase subscriptions,increase hits and revenues but here on MR? What will he achieve?
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Yet they lost in Denmark
Yet they lost against Samsung in the Supreme Court

What does this have to do with anything? A multi-million patent infringement lawsuit is equal to a non-existent court claim on water-proofing. That sure is some sound reasoning? And whatever happened in Denmark with one phone, is surely respresentative of the rest of the world.:rolleyes:

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I completely agree that this is unfair mate but you have to understand this is now the new Apple and they will take money whichever way it comes . The fact that they got consumers to pay for their own blunders with Touch Disease says its all really. Hence I have an Otterbox Defender Case on standby for my iPhone 7 just in case I am going hiking when it rains. Dont want to take the lottery with Apple's claims
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You clearly did not see the ad.They showed an iPhone 7 in landscape getting wet due to a glass of water

And THIS was shown in the keynote



Also I am not sure on this one but they actually showed someone diving in the Water with an AW which has ip67
And even getting your phone wet has little to do with dunking it in a toilet bowl. Has anyone never splashed water on their phone? Heck, I spilled a hot cup of coffee all over my non-rated iphone 6s and it's still ticking away 2 months later.

Based on the deep-dive video from everything apple, the iphone does hold up, very nicely I'm adding, if not damaged.
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Wow,that really is misleading people
No more than this:

And we know Samsung does not warrant the S7 for water damage unless you pay for it.
 
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Moving the goalposts. Got it.:rolleyes:
What goal posts?This is common sense.Everything Apple is the only guy on YouTube claiming the iPhone withstands 35 feet of water.On the other hand everyone on YouTube has proof of stuttering so he later is more reliable than the former




What does this have to do with anything? A multi-million patent infringement lawsuit is equal to a non-existent court claim on water-proofing. That sure is some sound reasoning? And whatever happened in Denmark with one phone, is surely respresentative of the rest of the world.:rolleyes:

Point is they can be wrong and can lose.They lost in Denmark despite the local consumer law being in their favour


And even getting your phone wet has little to do with dunking it in a toilet bowl. Has anyone never splashed water on their phone? Heck, I spilled a hot cup of coffee all over my non-rated iphone 6s and it's still ticking away 2 months later.
That's a basic situation almost everyone has experienced with their phones at some time or other and has happened with laptops for decades.However we expect those phones with ratings to go the extra mile beyond that . The OP dropped the phone in water and irrespective of how long it was under the phone should not have completely died otherwise what's the point of the certificate. Both non rated and rated phones survive the occasional spills and rains.



Based on the deep-dive video from everything apple, the iphone does hold up, very nicely I'm adding, if not damaged.
Actually the display of the iPhone did get damaged. And as I said earlier the 15 minute time skip is suspect in itself.why didn't he just keep the recording on.We could have easily fast forward through the minutes and removed any trace of doubts


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No more than this:

And we know Samsung does not warrant the S7 for water damage unless you pay for it.
Except for 2 things

1.The channel showed iPhone surviving below 35 feet and S7 at 30 feet.However the OP's iPhone got wrecked by dropping in a bucket of water

However the channel you place so highly showed the S7 surviving till 30 feet and so far I haven't seen any complaints about S7 dying by dropping in a bucket so this effectively proves S7>iPhone 7
 
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What goal posts?This is common sense.Everything Apple is the only guy on YouTube claiming the iPhone withstands 35 feet of water.On the other hand everyone on YouTube has proof of stuttering so he later is more reliable than the former
I trust the results of this test.




Point is they can be wrong and can lose.They lost in Denmark despite the local consumer law being in their favour
Apple and oranges comparison.


That's a basic situation almost everyone has experienced with their phones at some time or other and has happened with laptops for decades.However we expect those phones with ratings to go the extra mile beyond that . The OP dropped the phone in water and irrespective of how long it was under the phone should not have completely died otherwise what's the point of the certificate. Both non rated and rated phones survive the occasional spills and rains.
Don't know what OP did only what OP posted he did. There's a difference.



Actually the display of the iPhone did get damaged. And as I said earlier the 15 minute time skip is suspect in itself.why didn't he just keep the recording on.We could have easily fast forward through the minutes and removed any trace of doubts
Okay and the s7 dropped dead in that time.


Except for 2 things

1.The channel showed iPhone surviving below 35 feet and S7 at 30 feet.However the OP's iPhone got wrecked by dropping in a bucket of water

However the channel you place so highly showed the S7 surviving till 30 feet and so far I haven't seen any complaints about S7 dying by dropping in a bucket so this effectively proves S7>iPhone 7
Perfect example of moving the goalposts. So I'll ask you to prove it. Maybe I'll report the video?:D
 
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"iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions with a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529. Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Do not attempt to charge a wet iPhone; refer to the user guide for cleaning and drying instructions. Liquid damage not covered under warranty" (Apple official website).

"6 (in IP Code) - No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight). A vacuum must be applied. Test duration of up to 8 hours based on air flow".
"7 (in IP Code) - Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion for up to 30 minutes)". (Wikipedia etc.).

No contradiction at all. /s
I note that you bolded the "up to 1 m..." part, but NOT the "under defined conditions of pressure and time" part.

One thing is that the IMPACT with the surface of the water is DEFINITELY not accounted for in IP testing, and can amount to a significant amount of pressure.

Remember: Water doesn't compress...
 
I note that you bolded the "up to 1 m..." part, but NOT the "under defined conditions of pressure and time" part.

One thing is that the IMPACT with the surface of the water is DEFINITELY not accounted for in IP testing, and can amount to a significant amount of pressure.

Remember: Water doesn't compress...
Post #20 is an exact quote of IP67 standard (Ingress Protection Marking/International Protection Marking) iP7 is ceritifed for.
Like or not.
Remember: Certification ≠ apologism...
 
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