iPhone 8 Exclusive: Apple's Biggest Changes Revealed

Dave245

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I think a lot of people will be upgrading this year if the iPhone 8 has all the features that are rumoured and this great looking design.
 

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Funny how the supposed latest and greatest design rumor doesn't even take into account information that has been available for some time now, like the design of the signal bars that is used in iOS 11.
 

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It is unlikely to look like that, sorry to burst bubbles. That is asymmetric design. Unlike Apple. Secondly, the Home Button absolutely has to remain at the bottom face of the device, and because this is so, this area may as well be perpetually black, akin to the Touchbar and symmetrical with the top bar. That's just logic.

Thirdly, the top is unlikely to be like that with the status bar. Why? Because you cannot fit the status bar in those two areas. They're too small. You have to have the time glanceable on the screen at nearly all times. To even consider that Apple would just get rid of the time is boredline absurd in my opinion. It's simply one of those things that CANT happen. Why do I say can't? Because glanceable time is fundamental to the experience that everyone knows. The moment people have to do something to see the time (and yes, I mean swiping down the new lock screen/Notification Center), is the moment you annoy tens of millions of people. It's simply not happening.

Everyone knows the change from dots to bars truncated the text in the status bar slightly, but the simple truth is, intelligent thinkers don't stop at that. Intelligent thinkers say, okay, they did this, but that doesn't necessarily mean their intent is what is seemingly obvious. The intelligent thinkers go beyond the obvious, the superficial. It's ease to assume that was the intent, it's much harder to go beyond that and consider why that isn't so, but merely coincidental.
 

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lol they literally don't mention anything new. Same article as last weeks. Just "confirming" the same design that's been rumored for months.
 

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My thoughts are it will resemble that design with the chin at the top bezel, which really doesn't look as bad as some are making it out to be.
quick question, where would the other top row icons go? Like alarm, do not disturb, location, bluetooth...etc. And on the home screen, not the lock screen, will the time not be listed in the center?
 

joeblow7777

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lol they literally don't mention anything new. Same article as last weeks. Just "confirming" the same design that's been rumored for months.
Chances are we already know (or think we know) as much as we're going to until September.
 

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quick question, where would the other top row icons go? Like alarm, do not disturb, location, bluetooth...etc. And on the home screen, not the lock screen, will the time not be listed in the center?
The article said the bottom in a function area is what they are guessing.
 

joeblow7777

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I don’t mind, I use Bluetooth anyway.
Which you could continue to do even with a headphone jack, of course.

I also have a set of Bluetooth earbuds, but a bunch of traditional wired ones as well, which come in handy when my wireless ones need charging.

I don't want to rant about this all over again. It's a dead horse, but all I can see is that Apple took away a feature and didn't add anything.
 
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Dave245

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Which you could continue to do even with a headphone jack, of course.

I also have a set of Bluetooth earbuds, but a bunch of traditional wired ones as well, which come in handy when my wireless ones need charging.

I don't want to rant about this all over again. It's a dead horse, but all I can see is that Apple took away a feature and didn't add anything.
Which they have done many times before. Taking away the headphone jack moves technology forward so that people will adapt to using just wireless, for example I have the AirPods which I use daily, they are a great pair of earphones that i wouldn't be without.
 

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Which they have done many times before. Taking away the headphone jack moves technology forward so that people will adapt to using just wireless, for example I have the AirPods which I use daily, they are a great pair of earphones that i wouldn't be without.
True. When Apple announced they were deleting the 3.5 mm Jack from the iPhone 7, they also introduced the AirPods directly right after showing the audience what Apple envisioned the future of wireless. Even though there is a work around with an adapter, the Airpods was Apple's answer to the 3.5 Jack. I like my Airpods very much, but there is still those times I appreciated using my iPhone while charging and for music at the same time.
 
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Dave245

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Relentless Power said:
I like my Airpods very much, but there is still those times I appreciated using my iPhone while charging and for music at the same time.
You can still use your AirPods while your iPhone is charging. The great thing I like is that I can leave my iPhone in one room say upstairs charging while I go downstairs and still use my AirPods.

The whole Touch ID going away thing doesn't really bother me because I know that Apple will add another better alternative, AirPods being an example and the Touchbar being another for the Mac (People were complaining about Apple removing the function keys).
 
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joeblow7777

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Which they have done many times before. Taking away the headphone jack moves technology forward so that people will adapt to using just wireless, for example I have the AirPods which I use daily, they are a great pair of earphones that i wouldn't be without.
Which would still work if there was a headphone jack. No offence, but you don't have to swallow everything that Apple serves up. They removed the headphone jack solely to sell more of those very expensive AirPods.
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You can still use your AirPods while your iPhone is charging. The great thing I like is that I can leave my iPhone in one room say upstairs charging while I go downstairs and still use my AirPods.

The whole Touch ID going away thing doesn't really bother me because I know that Apple will add another better alternative, AirPods being an example and the Touchbar being another for the Mac (People were complaining about Apple removing the function keys).
I don't think TouchID is going anywhere, nor do i see what could be better.
 
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Dave245

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Which would still work if there was a headphone jack. No offence, but you don't have to swallow everything that Apple serves up. They removed the headphone jack solely to sell more of those very expensive AirPods.
They would still work yes but how many people would still use the headphone jack anyway, wireless Bluetooth headphones are the future anyway, Apple are known for removing things and adding the alternative. Not swallowing anything I'm agreeing with Apple simply because the AirPods are a great bit of kit and better than any pair of wired headphones i ever owned. Alternatively if you wanted to use wired headphones you can use the adapter that comes in the box.
 

Relentless Power

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I don't think TouchID is going anywhere, nor do i see what could be better.
Neither do I. I think Touch ID will very much remain on the new iPhone in September. A lot of click bait articles out there right now say otherwise, but I don't believe everything I read either.
 

Dave245

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Neither do I. I think Touch ID will very much remain on the new iPhone in September. A lot of click bait articles out there right now say otherwise, but I don't believe everything I read either.
I think it will be added to either the power button or something like that, it won't be a physical button because of the less bezel design, there is talk of a function area that sits at the bottom so maybe it could be added to that.
 

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They would still work yes but how many people would still use the headphone jack anyway, wireless Bluetooth headphones are the future anyway, Apple are known for removing things and adding the alternative. Not swallowing anything I'm agreeing with Apple simply because the AirPods are a great bit of kit and better than any pair of wired headphones i ever owned. Alternatively if you wanted to use wired headphones you can use the adapter that comes in the box.
Apple is known for removing things and adding an alternative, only this time they didn't add anything. Smartphones have supported Bluetooth audio for almost 10 years.

But yes, I know, they had to remove the old port to get people to fully embrace the new technology... and thank goodness they also happened to introduce a pricy new product to help us embrace the change. :rolleyes:
 

Relentless Power

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I think it will be added to either the power button or something like that, it won't be a physical button because of the less bezel design, there is talk of a function area that sits at the bottom so maybe it could be added to that.
I think Touch ID will remain on the bottom face of the iPhone and Hopefully Apple will have Touch ID embedded in the display, but the power button seems interesting for placement, but likely not the best place design wise and I don't think it will be on the power button.
 

Dave245

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Apple is known for removing things and adding an alternative, only this time they didn't add anything. Smartphones have supported Bluetooth audio for almost 10 years.

But yes, I know, they had to remove the old port to get people to fully embrace the new technology... and thank goodness they also happened to introduce a pricy new product to help us embrace the change. :rolleyes:
They are really not that expensive for what they do, I use mine daily and couldn't be happier. There are always people who complain about something, it happened with the 30 pin connector removal it's more recently happened with the Touch Bar on the MacBook Pro's, it happens every time and then it blows over and people embrace it until the next time when it starts all over again.
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I think Touch ID will remain on the bottom face of the iPhone and Hopefully Apple will have Touch ID embedded in the display, but the power button seems interesting for placement, but likely not the best place design wise and I don't think it will be on the power button.
If it does remain it will have to be in a software function since the physical button will probably be gone. Maybe they have found a way to put it under the display, as long as it doesn't end up on the back of the iPhone I'll be happy. The iPhone 8 is going to be great I'm looking forward to it :)
 
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